Rally De Portugal 2010

[RS]

]He was again fastest by nice margin, don't worry ;)

Al-Attiyah and Ketomaa are both very fast too though. I expected a little more from Andersson, maybe he is pacing himself after the accident in Jordan...

[jonkka]

Final stage and time for shuffling, if any...

[N.O.T]

mistake by sordo...

[jonkka]

Positions do change - waffle shuffle...

[RS]

Another great day's driving by Ogier.

This whole building a nice lead on day one, dropping back on day two, setting up a nice fight for leg three thing reminds me of someone.....

Also a nice drive by Neuville. I think only his third or so gravel rally and comfortably at the head of jWRC.

[awake27]

Oh tactics tactics... we will never get rid off them it seems. What happened to that new regulation in Turkey? Propably went down to the toilet...

[Fide]

Has Petter played tactics ?

[N.O.T]

kimi very fast as usual...but losing to the 5 year plan guy...

the fact that al attyah is faster than the golden boys PG and Ketomaa is strange....

[teufel]

Also a nice drive by Neuville. I think only his third or so gravel rally and comfortably at the head of jWRC.

at least Burkart not in the lead...

[N.O.T]

1 more day of tactics then the real rally begins...

[Hartusvuori]

Hänninen looses to Nasser and Ketomaa on SS6, but stay in front in overall. Nasser seems to enjoy Fiesta a lot.

[bluuford]

Seems like Attyah likes Fiesta much more than Fabia.. Or the team is probably better;-) Maybe autotek has even some spare parts :-)

[Rallyper]

Seems like Attyah likes Fiesta much more than Fabia.. Or the team is probably better;-) Maybe autotek has even some spare parts :-)
Could the Fiesta be a better car than Fabia at the moment? :rolleyes:

[janvanvurpa]

...making a mistake on SS2 and then going off the road on SS4. Following crews reported that Block's car is unable to get back on, but the crew are unhurt.


Wow! Step by step he's improving every event!
So far it's been SS@ now he makes it all the way to SS$ before going off...

Future Champignonskit Material!

Just a few more years and he'll be going off on the last stage, and then all you furriners better watch out.

America est Arriveé!

[Mirek]

Could the Fiesta be a better car than Fabia at the moment? :rolleyes:

It seems like Fiesta suspension is better. On the other hand Fabia has better engine. On most of gravel events it's more up to suspension in my opinion.

On the other hand we shouldn't forget that Nasser won some 2/3 of all stages already in Jordan after he had a two day long training with Hänninen. In New Zealand he was running with no spares so he had to be careful. Fabia also isn't a car which is very easy to drive right from start. My friend who is co-driver in Fabia, told me that it takes some time to get used to it and especially it's extremely sensitive steering.

In the end Fiesta is more expensive than Fabia so it shouldn't be slower :)

[bluuford]

Could the Fiesta be a better car than Fabia at the moment? :rolleyes:
For me it currently seems that his previous team took a bit big bite and the car just was not the best prepared. The difference between those cars seems to be minimal.

[blissard]

Has Petter played tactics ?

Seems so. Mikko slipped behind Loeb, and Petter slipped behind both of them.

Rather fed up with this whole tactic thing.

[maxter]

According to WRR he (Petter) arrived at the end of SS7 with a huge puncture though.

[RS]

Rather fed up with this whole tactic thing.

I don't really bother paying that much attention to the top of the leaderboard until end of day 2/start of day 3 of WRC gravel rallies. Until then it's all just a bit of messing about.

sWRC is at least interesting to follow in the meantime because they don't have the sweeping problem.

[Mirek]

Neuville crashed from 1st place in JWRC.

[Ondra WRC]

What happened Neuville? No splits :confused: :(

Thanks Mirek.

[Hartusvuori]

What happened to Nasser on SS7? He suddenly dropped 23,3s behind Ketomaa overall.

[Mirek]

Lost power steering if I get it right.

[Hartusvuori]

]Lost power steering if I get it right.

OK. He was lucky to lose it at this point of the day - time loss would've been much bigger had it happened earlier.

[John V]

What happened to Nasser on SS7? He suddenly dropped 23,3s behind Ketomaa overall.

It was bit worst according what he said, steering was jammed, so not only powersteering probably.

[Tom206wrc]

]PG should drive Focus WRC of Stobart in Bulgaria according to rallye-magazin.de.


Replacing "the son" ???? :p :

[Mirek]

No, replacing Henning.

[Hartusvuori]

Hänninen through SS7. Losing few seconds to Ketomaa and PGA, but staying in front in overall after Day 1.

[Mirek]

Tomorrow he has much better road position than today.

[RS]

]No, replacing Henning.

Henning doesn't want to drive Bulgaria?

It's a pity that PG gets his big chance on asphalt, but it is better than nothing.

[Bobcat]

]On the other hand Fabia has better engine.
This is exactly the opposite.

]Tomorrow he has much better road position than today.
Hänninen with Ogier enjoying better stage conditions as the cars ahead cleared the dust from the surface.

[bluuford]

Anyone knows what happened to Paddon?

[Raini]

Anyone knows what happened to Paddon?

"Unfortunately we are stuck on the side of the rd on the last stage after hiting a hole and breaking steering. Biterly disapointing!"

from http://haydenpaddon.com/

[RS]

This is exactly the opposite.

The Ford reputedly has very good top end power but I think the Skoda is better on torque than the Fiesta (or any other S2000)


Hänninen with Ogier enjoying better stage conditions as the cars ahead cleared the dust from the surface.

I think the roads were sufficiently swept not to affect the leading sWRC crews, and besides Hanninen was running so far down that the roads were likely becoming rutted and he may have been in the dust of slower cars too.

Let's see what happens tomorrow.

[Mirek]

This is exactly the opposite.

No but of course You may think whatever You want :s mokin:


Hänninen with Ogier enjoying better stage conditions as the cars ahead cleared the dust from the surface.

Ogier yes, Hänninen no. After 40 cars the road is in very bad shape. Also 2WD cars of JWRC drive completely different lines and after them 4WD cars have to sweep again.

[bluuford]

"Unfortunately we are stuck on the side of the rd on the last stage after hiting a hole and breaking steering. Biterly disapointing!"

from http://haydenpaddon.com/

Thanx, I am in the middle of the forests and using relatively slow connection, so this forum is like a piece of cold for me :-)

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_solberg__mils_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_884071e7e8. jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_loeb__elena_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_dbd4c29277.jp g

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_solberg_vs_5f8bd6608d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_alattiyah__bernacchini_%28ford_fiesta_s2000%29 _63eb62da73.jpg

More photos from 1st leg of Rally de Portugal HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=716&fseason=2010) ;)

[jbmarcus21]

Program of Day 2 - Timetable - Mobile Live Results
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/portugal10.htm

[Langdale Forest]

Here is the video of Loeb passing the motorbike on Day 1.

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=300&page=1&featureid=1615&desc=Portugal%202010:%20Loeb%20and%20the%20biker

Also video of Petter Solberg sliding off the road under a motorway bridge.

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=300&page=1&featureid=1614&desc=Portugal%202010:%20Solberg%20overshoot

[awake27]

In the motorstv coverage of day 1, they showed in the last stage Petter clearly slowing down with Phil counting the seconds to drop down the order. With or without the puncture which they didn't catch with the cameras.

[6789]

In the motorstv coverage of day 1, they showed in the last stage Petter clearly slowing down with Phil counting the seconds to drop down the order. With or without the puncture which they didn't catch with the cameras.
I think that was a bad idea to slow, hope it pays off today but

[zajic]

Some more photos on rally-mania.cz ;)
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=717&fseason=2010

[Salist]

Thanks Jafry...nice photos.

[Salist]

Good Morning Guys!
One hour and start the 2nd day...

[dimviii]

Good morning!!
Lets see if Loeb had a good sleep :D

[jonkka]

G' morning'
I bet he had but likely so had others as well...

[N.O.T]

Yup.....loeb is on a charge....

[jonkka]

Mikko not able to match him

[White Sauron]

Mikko not able to match him

Very surprising...)

[dimviii]

Loeb had a good sleep unfortunately :o

[N.O.T]

good run by ogier.....very nice.

[jonkka]

Interesting that Petter isn't faster than he is...

[ridder]

Interesting that Petter isn't faster than he is...

I was expecting him about 2 secs faster, between Loeb and Hirvonen.

[Barreis]

Go Loeb..

[jonkka]

I was expecting him about 2 secs faster, between Loeb and Hirvonen.

Yeh, something like that.

[jonkka]

Go Loeb..

:eek:

[dimviii]

kimi on problems? :rolleyes:

[N.O.T]

very solid performace by raikonen....he puts his health first and thats what matters in our sport.

[Mirek]

Hänninen again without splits, damn :(

[blissard]

I was expecting him about 2 secs faster, between Loeb and Hirvonen.

He lost some time on split 6. If he didn't, he would have been about 2 secs faster.

[fmcv]

Good morning. You can watch live rally for the next stage here:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4 (http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4)

[jonkka]

Thank You FMCV!

[fmcv]

All reporters turned his back to Raikkonen as he arrived to the end of SS 8. They should have done this before. he never speaks to anyone!

[N.O.T]

Thank you !!

[N.O.T]

All reporters turned his back to Raikkonen as he arrived to the end of SS 8. They should have done this before. he never speaks to anyone!


good move by them....

[dimviii]

Good morning. You can watch live rally for the next stage here:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4 (http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4)


thanks mate! :bounce:


PGA very slow on 1st split :confused:

[Mirek]

Looks like stalled engine.

[6789]

Good morning. You can watch live rally for the next stage here:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4 (http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4)
Awesome :)

[N.O.T]

next stage is on...

[dimviii]

Ketooma faster than Hanninen by 2,2 sec

[Mirek]

PG lost over one minute

[N.O.T]

some kind of problem for PG....

[mm1]

Thanks for the link!

[muscrae]

JML stopped?

edit: JML has gone off the road and damaged the car...

[Mirek]

Tuohino lost huge time.

[N.O.T]

Latvala stopped

[muscrae]

Look at Petter @ split 4 !!! :)

[jonkka]

There are only 5 splits?!? :eek:

[White Sauron]

Latvala stopped

And Hirvonen is even slower than Ogier, who's cleaning the road... Oh...

[N.O.T]

HIRVONEN M. / LEHTINEN J. (st. č. 3) "We have punctures. Just sliding all the way, bad stage for me."

from rally.cz

[6789]

This live stage is.... AWESOME!!

[N.O.T]

poor latvala.........

[N.O.T]

This live stage is.... AWESOME!!

the live coverage is ok...but they should have used more helicopters....they are missing a lot of cars.

[6789]

poor latvala.........
Its a shame, PG to be Ford number too by season end?

[fmcv]

hirvonen had no punctures. He thought he had but it was not true! he just lost his confidence when the car began to oversteer...

[jonkka]

the live coverage is ok...but they should have used more helicopters....they are missing a lot of cars.

Like who for example?

[6789]

the live coverage is ok...but they should have used more helicopters....they are missing a lot of cars.
I'm not complaining, beats looking at splits on my computer screen

[N.O.T]

i think ketomaa or hannnen are better options...currently any of the ketomaa, hanninen, PG, meeke are 5th, 6th place competitors maybe podium on events they know....

but ford has other plans like feedeing the useless 5 year plan boy some more money...

[fmcv]

the live coverage is ok...but they should have used more helicopters....they are missing a lot of cars.

What cars? every single one has been shown so far!

[N.O.T]

Like who for example?

they missed latvala, sordo and the majority of footage from Loeb, solberg....

I am not blaming them...

live coverage is like water in the desert for me if someone gives you tap water you cannot start complaining and asking for bottled one...

[6789]

Henning Solberg - fuel pump problem again, same as first stage

[6789]

live coverage is like water in the desert for me if someone gives you tap water you cannot start complaining and asking for bottled one...
Very true, they should do this for every rally. I would pay for that on WRC.com

[John V]

SMS from P-G: Slow puncture probably 5 km after start

[Tom206wrc]

Well done Petter on SS9 :bounce:

[jonkka]

they missed latvala, sordo and the majority of footage from Loeb, solberg....

Latvala did not get that far and you missed Sordo, I saw him clearly.

[fmcv]

they missed latvala, sordo and the majority of footage from Loeb, solberg....

I am not blaming them...

live coverage is like water in the desert for me if someone gives you tap water you cannot start complaining and asking for bottled one...

Latval is out. We went out 400m after the start of the stage. And Sord was shown! maybe the livery and the language confused you

[Tom206wrc]

Latvala ????? :confused:

Edit: OK FMCV give the answer...

[blissard]

Reporter: Did you see Latvala?
Henning: Yes..., he crashed the wrong way.

Hehe..

[6789]

Next stage goes live at 25 minutes past the hour..

[Tom206wrc]

Henning Solberg - fuel pump problem again, same as first stage


Should really have kept the Bozian whale from 2006...results would never have been worse than since the Focus :mark:

[dimviii]

Kimi didn t open his door at the control,or i missed it? :rolleyes:

[fmcv]

Kimi didn t open his door at the control,or i missed it? :rolleyes:

as usual... This time the portuguese reporters interwied each other in front of the car lol

[6789]

Kimi didn t open his door at the control,or i missed it? :rolleyes:
Didn't open the door at all on the stream

[fmcv]

Hanninen is out. Don't know the reason...

[dimviii]

as usual... This time the portuguese reporters interwied each other in front of the car lol

:disturb:

[jonkka]

N.O.T, is that you on net-TV steam now? :eek:

[fmcv]

In the afternoon there will be another TV live SS. If it goes live on the net as well I'll let you know.

[N.O.T]

damn....what was shown? i turned it off for a while.

[6789]

In the afternoon there will be another TV live SS. If it goes live on the net as well I'll let you know.
Awesome thank you so much!!

A Portugese kids tv show came on lol

Max attack from Petter needed!!

Loeb to roll? lol

[Mirek]

Nasser also out?

[N.O.T]

the final ss of the loop is on

[6789]

]Nasser also out?
Thats what they are reporting on WRR

SS10 is go go go

[fmcv]

]Nasser also out?
looks like it... But no one has seen him!

[N.O.T]

What will the quitter do now ? will he just cruise as usual to secure mr wilson some points for the lost manufacturer title or try and be a man for once to see how it feels like and maybe challenge for the win ?

[Allyc85]

Is it just me that has to manually refresh the live timing? Im using Firefox if that makes any difference :)

[6789]

What will the quitter do now ? will he just cruise as usual to secure mr wilson some points for the lost manufacturer title or try and be a man for once to see how it feels like and maybe challenge for the win ?
lol

[6789]

Is it just me that has to manually refresh the live timing? Im using Firefox if that makes any difference :)
I manually refresh, only if it could automaticallly update

FireFox too

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb slower than Sordo in SS10 :confused:

[muscrae]

What happened to Nasser?

[N.O.T]

the second run through is going to be destructive for the tyres....

[blissard]

Petter wins the stage.

[Tom206wrc]

Finally the best time SS10 for Solberg :)

[bluuford]

Petter is perfectly positioned right now. only 11 sec behind Loeb. Lets see what Ogier does on the second run. Yesterday Loeb lost even more in some second run stages.

[maxter]

Not by a big margin though, but I hope he'll keep this up and slowly eat away that gap.

[Wim_Impreza]

Hirvonen is so slow for a #1 driver in a factory team.

[dimviii]

Hirvonen is so slow for a #1 driver in a factory team.
+1
with good road position today,his best is a 3rd place. :dozey:

[r199]

SS9 Abbring flying like hell, 21 seconds faster as burkart.

think someone is in a hurry haha GO KEVIN

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen is so slow for a #1 driver in a factory team.


Maybe the car has problem, not the driver :mark:
The Focus seems to have bad gravel set-up compared to the C4 since Rally Mexico(only exception is NZ) :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

Maybe the car has problem, not the driver :mark:
The Focus seems to have bad gravel set-up compared to the C4 since Rally Mexico(only exception is NZ) :confused:

So you think that the car had in all gravel rallies this year problems. Hirvonen isn't simply as good as Loeb, P. Solberg and Ogier. He is even slower then Sordo and he has a much better road position then Sordo.

[Finni2]

So you think that the car had in all gravel rallies this year problems. Hirvonen isn't simply as good as Loeb, P. Solberg and Ogier.

Latvala didn't seem faster either. Of course we can assume that Ford drivers are just much weaker but my feeling is that Citroen must be at least little step ahead. Petter's car could be at the same level with Fords.

[Mise]

Maybe it's both. Ford is a little slower and Mikko and JML are little slower.

[Rallyper]

So you think that the car had in all gravel rallies this year problems. Hirvonen isn't simply as good as Loeb, P. Solberg and Ogier. He is even slower then Sordo and he has a much better road position then Sordo.

There´s a point here. We have seen the Ford drivers very equal citroen-boys in recent one or two years back. Exception for Loeb who has been a little faster. This year thou there is a sudden change which I believe you can´t blame the drivers.

Either Ford cars isn´t in the shape as before or the citroens has been developed in one way or another.

[Rallyper]

PG lost time on SS10 because of some failure on right rear drive shaft.

[rp]

There´s a point here. We have seen the Ford drivers very equal citroen-boys in recent one or two years back. Exception for Loeb who has been a little faster. This year thou there is a sudden change which I believe you can´t blame the drivers.

Either Ford cars isn´t in the shape as before or the citroens has been developed in one way or another.

It seems that Ford has lost something or they are on the same level as last year, but Citroen has now faster car.

I remember that Wilson and Quesnel made a gentleman agreement last year that teams are not developing their current World Rally Cars anymore. Unfortunately "The French agreement" can be different what we would imagine and I do not trust Quesnel in this case...

[Kamikaze]

I remember that Wilson and Quesnel made a gentleman agreement last year that teams are not developing their current World Rally Cars anymore. Unfortunately "The French agreement" can be different what we would imagine and I do not trust Quesnel in this case...

+1 !!

[mm1]

I think it wasn`t an agreement, rules state that you can`t homologate new parts for current wrc cars in 2010, and wasn`t it Australia last year, where Citroen had so many new parts on the car, that they forgot to add all the necesary paperwork to the homologation. I also think that Ford is slower this year, especialy after the live footage, where you could see Miko pushing just as much as Citroens, it`s just that the times aren`t there. Of course you can`t tell a cars speed just from looking at it, but it gives you an idea.

[Tom206wrc]

Great, so now if Fords are weaker than Citroëns it's not their faults but to the french team now which would be to blame...???? :rolleyes:

[Tomi]

I think it wasn`t an agreement, rules state that you can`t homologate new parts for current wrc cars in 2010, and wasn`t it Australia last year, where Citroen had so many new parts on the car, that they forgot to add all the necesary paperwork to the homologation. I also think that Ford is slower this year, especialy after the live footage, where you could see Miko pushing just as much as Citroens, it`s just that the times aren`t there. Of course you can`t tell a cars speed just from looking at it, but it gives you an idea.

rp is correct, they made an agreement, the agreement was to stop the development on the WRC car in favor of the new car type, but theese kind of agreements are impossible to control, they base on honesty.

[6789]

It seems that Ford has lost something or they are on the same level as last year, but Citroen has now faster car.

I remember that Wilson and Quesnel made a gentleman agreement last year that teams are not developing their current World Rally Cars anymore. Unfortunately "The French agreement" can be different what we would imagine and I do not trust Quesnel in this case...
Pappa Quesnel would be turning the wick up on those factory Citroens, you could nearly say no doubt about it..

Made me chuckle thats for sure

[donlorean]

Mikko said that he can't take more risks than he takes now... Tires are too warm and getting slippery and car is sliding a lot... So it's looks that, reason or another, setup of the car is not very good.
It's quite funny to see how true is that you are that good how was you last race... Last two year's Mikko was only driver who can challenge Loeb. And now some said that he is even worse than P.Solberg... And Petter was few year's quite poor... Suprisingly he was getting better as soon as he get Citroen...

So at the moment I think that Citroen does homework better than Ford... And for the sport, it's never good if there is only one team who can win...

[julkki]

Mikko said that he can't take more risks than he takes now... Tires are too warm and getting slippery and car is sliding a lot... So it's looks that, reason or another, setup of the car is not very good.
It's quite funny to see how true is that you are that good how was you last race... Last two year's Mikko was only driver who can challenge Loeb. And now some said that he is even worse than P.Solberg... And Petter was few year's quite poor... Suprisingly he was getting better as soon as he get Citroen...

Yep, it's strange to see how short memory some people have.

[blissard]

Yeah, it's so good to have Petter back in the top, where he belongs. His change in speed from Subaru to Citroen clearly shows how much the car matters.

I never doubted his skills, and to those who doubted: Up yours! :)

[6789]

... and to those who doubted: Up yours! :)

Haha, love it!

Stage goes live in 20 minutes or so. This afternoon could decided the rally, Petter and Mikko need to close the gap to Loeb. Ogier first on the road again tomorrow probably

[maxter]

Any information on further coverage on that Portuguese web-TV?

[Wim_Impreza]

Mikko said that he can't take more risks than he takes now... Tires are too warm and getting slippery and car is sliding a lot... So it's looks that, reason or another, setup of the car is not very good.
It's quite funny to see how true is that you are that good how was you last race... Last two year's Mikko was only driver who can challenge Loeb. And now some said that he is even worse than P.Solberg... And Petter was few year's quite poor... Suprisingly he was getting better as soon as he get Citroen...

So at the moment I think that Citroen does homework better than Ford... And for the sport, it's never good if there is only one team who can win...

I never doubted about the skills of Petter Solberg. Don't forget he was World Champion in the past, while Hirvonen still isn't (and never will be) after so much chances. The next World Champion after Loeb retired from rallying, will be Ogier or Latvala and not Hirvonen.

[pettersolberg29]

Stage goes live in 20 minutes or so. This afternoon could decided the rally, Petter and Mikko need to close the gap to Loeb. Ogier first on the road again tomorrow probably

Agreed. I see Ogier leading by about 5s into tomorrow, with Sordo and Petter about 20s off the lead, and Mikko about 35s off the lead.

[6789]

Agreed. I see Ogier leading by about 5s into tomorrow, with Sordo and Petter about 20s off the lead, and Mikko about 35s off the lead.

Loeb has to be in there somewhere too I'm sure or is he crashing? Lol

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb has to be in there somewhere too I'm sure or is he crashing? Lol

Sorry, I meant to say Ogier will be leading by about 5s FROM LOEB. Just missed the important bit out!

[HaCo]

Stage should be running :)

[Barreis]

I'm glad that Latvala is out..

[jonkka]

I'm glad that Latvala is out..

Because now you don't need to spend time to actually follow the rally as results is already clear?

[blissard]

Petter is pushing, faster than Loeb so far.

And Loeb is losing towards the end..

[muscrae]

Loeb is losing time?

[HaCo]

Sordo front wheel is wobling...

[HaCo]

Loeb also losing time at the end.

[muscrae]

Ogier is just crazy, he will win the stage in spite of his road position...

[HaCo]

Ogier is just crazy, he will win the stage in spite of his road position...

Yep, awesome drive of the frenchman!

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen drops time again on SS11 :s

[Rallyper]

Great, so now if Fords are weaker than Citroëns it's not their faults but to the french team now which would be to blame...???? :rolleyes:
No one is blaming anyone. ust trying to explain... :dozey:

[muscrae]

Ogier won the stage by 2.5 sec ahead of Petter...

[blissard]

Yes, Petter backed off to save his tyres.

[Xsara Fan]

Strange results. Or may be it`s a tactics?

[maxter]

If Ogier can keep this pace up and at the same time preserve his tyres it's just stunning, he's really getting close to that first win. Time will tell.

[6789]

How does Ogier do it? Amazing form, to preserve the tyres. Next stage could see Loeb, Petter push. Mikko needs to push or he'll be out of the game for sure

[Barreis]

Because now you don't need to spend time to actually follow the rally as results is already clear?

No. I don't like him nor his glasses. XD

[fmcv]

Portugal can be the stage for Ogier's first win

[fmcv]

In a few minutes there will be another Live TV SS: http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=2 (http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=2)

[JFL]

How does Ogier do it? Amazing form, to preserve the tyres. Next stage could see Loeb, Petter push. Mikko needs to push or he'll be out of the game for sure

It's faster to run in the backfield, but much harder on the tires so they have to back down to save the tires..

[blissard]

SS12 is live.

[Salist]

PG stoped on SS11. :(

[Ondra WRC]

what happened PG? :confused:

[fmcv]

There are some amazing pictures from the water spalsh that Sordo mentioned before...

[Salist]

I don't know...the last time on 3rd split time.

[fmcv]

PG andersson out

[HaCo]

Sordo still going well with the wobling front :p

[snellman]

what happened to latvala?

[HaCo]

what happened to latvala?

Make a guess :D

[Salist]

http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2010&rally_id=P&stage=11

[HaCo]

Burkart stopped in the stage as well!

[dimviii]

There are some amazing pictures from the water spalsh that Sordo mentioned before...
how much? :D

[6789]

what happened PG? :confused:
Knocked a wheel off according to WRR

[stepunk]

There are some amazing pictures from the water spalsh that Sordo mentioned before...

And where? :D

[fmcv]

how much? :D
really much... if you want to see go here and enter the cover it live window. In portuguese but the images are there:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/radios/online/F1_2010/?k=RALI-DE-PORTUGAL-2010---MINUTO-A-MINUTO.rtp&post=1058 (http://ww1.rtp.pt/radios/online/F1_2010/?k=RALI-DE-PORTUGAL-2010---MINUTO-A-MINUTO.rtp&post=1058)

[Ondra WRC]

Knocked a wheel off according to WRR
thanks

[snellman]

Make a guess :D
tell me :)

[blissard]

Tyre wear is gonna claim some casualties soon..

[dimviii]

really much... if you want to see go here and enter the cover it live window. In portuguese but the images are there:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/radios/online/F1_2010/?k=RALI-DE-PORTUGAL-2010---MINUTO-A-MINUTO.rtp&post=1058 (http://ww1.rtp.pt/radios/online/F1_2010/?k=RALI-DE-PORTUGAL-2010---MINUTO-A-MINUTO.rtp&post=1058)

thank you,very nice photo!

what about the live ss? it doesn t work.

[fmcv]

its a different link from the morning

[Mirek]

tell me :)

He went off 400 meters after start of SS9.

[dimviii]

Sordo loosing to much,probably some problem :(

[fmcv]

sorry, they changed the link:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4

[xavier]

Sordo loosing to much,probably some problem :(

Apparently no more spare so he's making sure he finish the day.

Amazing that Mikko is not taking much from Dani!

[dimviii]

sorry, they changed the link:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4

definetely you are the MAN of the rally :D

thank you!

[fmcv]

definetely you are the MAN of the rally :D

thank you!

waiting for the Abu Dahbi Spirit of the ralyy award :D

[Tom206wrc]

Tyres problem for Sordo on SS12 :confused:

[Racing Ka]

Thanks ablout livestrem.

What happened to Hänninen?

[jonkka]

Did you notice that there's a car in the ditch at that last corner? Looks funny :D

[Mirek]

What happened to Hänninen?

Ripped rear wheel off.

[Wim_Impreza]

Knocked a wheel off according to WRR

That is already the third time in two months that PG crashed in a rally. Does he want the record of Duval? :p

[Salist]

sorry, they changed the link:
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4

This link is OK. Thanks!

[dimviii]

That is already the third time in two months that PG crashed in a rally. Does he want the record of Duval? :p

lol :D

[Rallyper]

That is already the third time in two months that PG crashed in a rally. Does he want the record of Duval? :p

Dear oh dear! :mad:

Please wait for facts!

PG had a wheel off because of unfinished business at service. They changed "spiderlink" on rear wheel and forgotten to tighten a bolt which made the wheel come off.

[Wim_Impreza]

Dear oh dear! :mad:

Please wait for facts!

PG had a wheel off because of unfinished business at service. They changed "spiderlink" on rear wheel and forgotten to tighten a bolt which made the wheel come off.

Let's see if he can finish without problems in the Rally Bulgaria with the Stobart Focus WRC.

[JFL]

Is the next stage going live too?

[fmcv]

Is the next stage going live too?

No, unfortunately that won't happen. Now we will only have live tomorrow's SSE at Algarve Stadium...

[Rallyper]

Let's see if he can finish without problems in the Rally Bulgaria with the Stobart Focus WRC.

OK - change subject! That wasn´t the issue. :rolleyes:

[JFL]

No, unfortunately that won't happen. Now we will only have live tomorrow's SSE at Algarve Stadium...

Ok.. Thnx.. Remember to post the link.. ;)

[fmcv]

That's what local users from the forum can do for the others. I won't fail you. The other portuguese that I now from this forum must be all in the stages... I'm on the backstage, working on the rally news...

[jonkka]

Many thanks FMCV!

[muscrae]

Sordo is losing a lot ...

[dimviii]

thanks again fmcv!

any photos from day2?

[Mirek]

Does anyone know what actually happened to Nasser?

[dimviii]

Sordo is losing a lot ...

if he continue to loose so much,may change positions with Mikko

[fmcv]

don't have any photos yet but again don't have time to look for them. I Should receive a lot at the end of the day. About Nasser, it's a mistery to me also...

[fmcv]

Citroen could have 3 official works cars for 2011, said a team principal to the portugueses radio. Sorry, don't know who that was

[xavier]

This will be interesting tomorrow, Big Seb took 25 s today and is 21 behind lil' Seb. This may be very close (assuming no team order)

[xavier]

we may also see a Citroen 1-2-3-4. Last quadruple was 1993 by Toyota (thank to http://www.juwra.com)

[Mirek]

Ogier for sure deserves to win. Question is if he is allowed to defend against Loeb tomorrow.

[jonkka]

(thank to http://www.juwra.com)

You're welcome.

[muscrae]

]Ogier for sure deserves to win. Question is if he is allowed to defend against Loeb tomorrow.

I don't think Citroen will implement tactics to ensure another victory for Loeb, because they won't need it. Loeb will most probably pass Ogier tomorrow, and Ogier will finish second. May be Petter will push for the second place, but not for the victory, I think...

[awake27]

I don't think we will see team orders to change positions, I will be very surprised. Loeb has a healthy lead and even 2nd place is doing the job to open a gap.

More likely they will race 100% at the first loop tomorrow and if Loeb doesn't decrease the gap enough, they will hold positions.

After all, Ogier is the next Sebastien of Citroen and after losing the victory in NZ right at the end, I doubt Quesnel will want to deny him a fair chance to snatch the victory.

[N.O.T]

very nice fight for tommorow...Ogier gets hopefully his first win and Loeb extends his lead over the rest of the citroen drivers since i doubt this year the ford kiddies have any chance to get one of the first 3 positions in the championship......

well done Malcom.....i hope you pump more money to your sons project 5 year plan of shame.

[fmcv]

News report from today's morning stages from the portuguese TV: about minute 3 is Latvala's car under the tree....

http://tv1.rtp.pt/noticias/?t=Rali-de-Portugal-cumpre-segundo-dia-na-estrada.rtp&headline=20&visual=9&article=348533&tm=43 (http://tv1.rtp.pt/noticias/?t=Rali-de-Portugal-cumpre-segundo-dia-na-estrada.rtp&headline=20&visual=9&article=348533&tm=43)

[fmcv]

Ogier said at the end of last stage that tomorrow he will try to win but at the arrival of assistance he said he will do whatever the team wants him to do...

[N.O.T]

i think that the citroen will only implement tactics to keep things in order and not have Loeb/sordo crashing....so i think they are going to let them go through the first loop and then order a position hold. Maybe they allow sordo to push the whole day to keep hirvonen behind.

[tolis]

News report from today's morning stages from the portuguese TV: about minute 3 is Latvala's car under the tree....

http://tv1.rtp.pt/noticias/?t=Rali-de-Portugal-cumpre-segundo-dia-na-estrada.rtp&headline=20&visual=9&article=348533&tm=43 (http://tv1.rtp.pt/noticias/?t=Rali-de-Portugal-cumpre-segundo-dia-na-estrada.rtp&headline=20&visual=9&article=348533&tm=43)
Do you know whose car is on fire on 3:14? Thanks you for informing us!!! :)

[fmcv]

Tomorrow the firs loop of stages will be earlier than the initial schedule. I believe it's 30 minutes before time but i don't have the data right here. the second loop will be on its original time.

[fmcv]

Do you know whose car is on fire on 3:14? Thanks you for informing us!!! :)

It's Cyprus' Spyros Pavlides.

[tolis]

It's Cyprus' Spyros Pavlides.
Thanks!!! ;)

[bluuford]

Seems that there is now one whale less :-(

[fmcv]

Tomorrow the firs loop of stages will be earlier than the initial schedule. I believe it's 30 minutes before time but i don't have the data right here. the second loop will be on its original time.

It is correct: 30 minutes earlier than the time that was published on many programmes.

so,
SS 15 06:48
SS 16 07:39

Portugal's local time

[AndyRAC]

Ogier is good, in fact , better than good. I think Loeb will be allowed to win, with young Ogier 2nd if there is any justice, a great drive.! Citroen have found The Successor! And his name is Seb.......

[Tom206wrc]

Seems that there is now one whale less :-(


:mark:

[Barreis]

You're welcome.

Juwra.com is great..

[MJW]

If its a Sebastien who wins tomorrow I hope it will be Ogier. That guy impressed me from the first time I saw him ina C2 in Mexico, and also on Wales GB 08 in the C4. Allez Ogier!

[HaCo]

I think Ogier will be allowed to win.

[Wim_Impreza]

I think Ogier will be allowed to win.

I don't think it. There was never a teammate of Loeb that was allowed to win when he was second and the teammate first.

[soperman]

I think Ogier will be allowed the win. Looking at Hirvonen's current form Leob only has himself to beat for title no 7

[alleskids]

I don't think it. There was never a teammate of Loeb that was allowed to win when he was second and the teammate first.

Loeb never had a French teammate that was able to beat him. So letting Ogier win good be a better publicity and marketing move than letting Loeb - again and again and again and again - win.

[Mirek]

Finally wrc.com released information from SWRC. Nasser was stopped with electrical failure.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_villagra__perez_companc_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_b 0ce7dc88a.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_raikkonen__lindstrom_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_6238 abb235.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_loeb__elena_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_eaf5e5a32f.jp g

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_hirvonen__lehtinen_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_789ad5 bd63.jpg

More photos from 2nd leg of Rally de Portugal HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=716&fseason=2010) ;)

[Allyc85]

^Beautiful pics :)


Ogier is good, in fact , better than good. I think Loeb will be allowed to win, with young Ogier 2nd if there is any justice, a great drive.! Citroen have found The Successor! And his name is Seb.......

Agreed with that, Seb Jr looks to be one truly amazing talent. Wilson, go weep in the corner son....

[janvanvurpa]

^Beautiful pics :)



Agreed with that, Seb Jr looks to be one truly amazing talent. Wilson, go weep in the corner son....


Jeeezuz, no love for Blockie!

No even more mention than "Block off" SS4..

Isn't that twice as far as previously??
Come on some love for a real SUPERSTAR!!! 8)

[Red bull]

out driven out paced out classed and totally bullied is my msg to malcom,for citroen its a flawless victory.

[6789]

out driven out paced out classed and totally bullied is my msg to malcom,for citroen its a flawless victory.

There's still 80km's to go today.. But it looks that way

[jonkka]

A moment of truth... get ready...

My guess is that Seb will blast past the other Seb...

[jonkka]

One fourth of Ogier's advantage is gone...

[jonkka]

Almost one third...
but other pursuers are losing steam?

[John V]

Maybe it's only my own interpretation of Loeb's words, but I feel there will be status quo after SS 15 for Seb and Seb ...

[Jeppe]

...and Mikko is on the way to the podium..