Deutschland Rally WRC 2010

[Sulland]

Abbring blocking ?

[6789]

^^ Yeah true, S2000 is looking good

[Hartusvuori]

Missed the start by some half an hour and seems like lot of action happening on the first stage already. Shame for Petter (and my pickems as well), but I guess he can rise up to 5th-6th if everything goes well from now on.

As for Sordo winning in Spain, I would guess that'd be fine by the team since Loeb have wrapped up the championship already in Alsace.

[6789]

A good rally so far after the 1st stage. Shame about Petter but thats rallying. Loeb also seems to be very strong and Ford´s are improving,thats nice to see.

What comes to Block, by splits between 3rd and 4th he lost 23 seconds when guys like Kimi and Wilson just from 4 to 5. Al Qassimi lost just 8 so something must have happened. His time without that would been close to Kimi I would say.
Block reported that he got stuck in a junction somewhere and lost alot of time.

Stage blocked??

Ostberg was fastest S2000 car to split 2

[MR666]

Hold up in the stage by the sounds.

Split time stop at K. ABBRING, so must be blocking the road, hope all are ok.

[Sulland]

Yes watch out for Østberg !

Edit; hmmmm - have lost a lot at split 3 :(

[6789]

Hold up in the stage by the sounds.

Split time stop at K. ABBRING, so must be blocking the road, hope all are ok.
They reported that he rolled in a narrow part of the stage.

[MR666]

They reported that he rolled in a narrow part of the stage.

Yip.

Wounder if the action in SS1 is an indercation on what the rally is going to be like lol

[mdesign]

Araujo was doing a good time on pwrc. Shame he had to stop.

[BVB Rallying]

I guess that the SS will be neutralized... :( It's a shame that Kevin's event is over so quick.

[Leon]

Are they OK?

[MR666]

Are they OK?

Sounds like it.

[6789]

I guess that the SS will be neutralized... :( It's a shame that Kevin's event is over so quick.
Only if it was netralised for Petter :)

[N.O.T]

Ogier stalled on a hairpin....

[BVB Rallying]

And Hans Weijs jr als off @ last split? Not a very good start for the Dutch J-WRC drivers :(

[pettersolberg29]

Very surprised by Petter's pace. I would have thought that there is little point pushing hard from his position but his time looking good.

[jonkka]

Sordo is keeping up with Seb

[Brother John]

Sordo is keeping up with Seb

And on de last split he have to slow down, what a bad team where he´s driving. :o

[mdesign]

Duval lost too much time on the last split. What happened?

[KKS]

For KKS: If you email [email:27ulanlx]radio@wrc.com[/email:27ulanlx] and ask, they normally respond very quickly.

Silence :(

[René]

Henning stoped on stage

[Hartusvuori]

Henning stopped on SS2.

[Sulland]

Are they doing something to SS1 results with regard to what happened to Abbring and the block ?

[N.O.T]

Block matching Kimmis times...and Hennings splits stopped.

[pettersolberg29]

Silence :(

That's a shame. Maybe they will respond in the service break?

[Hartusvuori]

Lot of drivers seems to be missing junctions, but I think no one will miss the junctions once the rally is over.

[Sulland]

Anyone that knows what happened to Henning ?

[6789]

Ah man, shame about Henning!

[BVB Rallying]

It looks like they will give the rest of the drivers the time of 15:38.1 on SS1...

[6789]

It looks like they will give the rest of the drivers the time of 15:38.1 on SS1...
Unlucky for Ostberg, but plenty of rallying left to go

[Viking]

Østberg (among others) will not be happy about the time they are given in ss1, 35 seconds behind Prokop :/

[N.O.T]

no splits for ogier....

[N.O.T]

hirvonen lst a lot on split 2 maybe a spin.

[N.O.T]

GPS issues for ogier....Henning gearbox failure.

[N.O.T]

Ogier stalled many times on that stage.....

[Sulland]

Gearbox-goulash for Henning.
Superrally tomorrow, thx rallyradio !

[Viking]

Petter will be back in top 10 after this one methinks.

[Viking]

Østberg fastest S2000 on ss2 :up:

[jonkka]

Duval losing a lot...

[N.O.T]

if solberg keeps this pace i would not count out a top 5 position especially with the 2 runs over the48 kms stage tomorrow.

[Barreis]

Only RWD for Duval..

[6789]

Østberg (among others) will not be happy about the time they are given in ss1, 35 seconds behind Prokop :/
No means to protest? Petter on the pace now too

[N.O.T]

Duval on RWD only....

[6789]

if solberg keeps this pace i would not count out a top 5 position especially with the 2 runs over the48 kms stage tomorrow.
:up:

[Mirek]

Also this rally with 420 km of stages is the longest in many years I think ;)

[N.O.T]

no splits for sandell

[Viking]

if solberg keeps this pace i would not count out a top 5 position especially with the 2 runs over the48 kms stage tomorrow.

If he keeps his pace he could be in top 6 tonight.

[Mirek]

no splits for sandell

They are there, he is fastest on 3rd split.

[Viking]

No means to protest?

I am not sure, his father will know :D

[N.O.T]

indeed the drivers ahead and up to 6th are easy prey...then the hard part starts.

[Sulland]

No means to protest? Petter on the pace now too

What does the rules say in the case of blockage of a stage, and teams are hindered without themselves to blame ?

[Mirek]

It's up to stewards. They can give any time they think that is good but of course teams can try to appeal.

Stage two was probably also blocked, since Wittmann, Wevers and others seeded down have +15-20 minutes...

[jonkka]

]Also this rally with 420 km of stages is the longest in many years I think ;)

First rally to exceed 400 km since 2004 Deutschland.

[Mirek]

I was wrong, it's 407 km :) Also Monte Carlo this year had 405 but that wasn't WRC...

New Zealand was 399...

[HaCo]

Pfff, the WRC site is crap to follow different classes and ewrc is behind. It's a shame a big organisation as WRC can't make a proper results page :(

[Viking]

Pfff, the WRC site is crap to follow different classes and ewrc is behind. It's a shame a big organisation as WRC can't make a proper results page :(

Use this one :up:

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=581&stage=11722&category=&group=&section=

Edit: Sorry did not see the "ewrc behind" thingy :)

[Livewireshock]

Weijs Junior is now ahead of all the PWRC competitors, not a bad effort in the JWRC car.

[Viking]

Østberg missing??

[Sulland]

Henning had an engine issue according to M Wilson, they are not sure though.

[Sulland]

Østberg missing??

maybe not, but +6 minutes on the last split, so something has happened.

Not a very good norwegian start, but Eivind is still up there. Hopes he get the brakes fixed.

[noel157]

TÄNAK O. / SIKK K. (st. č. 40) "On this stage we went off, codriver was late on notes."

Poor Kuldar, getting blamed for it all.

[Sulland]

results also here: http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=403&filtr=

[N.O.T]

rally.cz results are better..they have drivers quotes in english.

[6789]

rally.cz results are better..they have drivers quotes in english.

That wouldn't be too hard for the WRC guys to do on their website. Would be pretty awesome. Live stream woul be better :D

Loeb on the pace today, looks like my money is safe

[Viking]

Østbergs incidend

"SS3: After a good start again, the car just stopped after hitting some branches in the vineyards, and it would not restart. They did not understand what happened, but after consulting the team they eventually found the problem connected to the fire extinguisher. A branch must have hit the extinguisher button that is between bonnet and front screen and released the extinguisher. That cut all electricity. They lost 5 minutes, unfortunately, in this incident."

[Sulland]

If it had not been for the split times service, I would never have visited wrc.com, that is how poor that site is !

Very few scoops on that site to say the least !!

[Sulland]

Østbergs incidend

"SS3: After a good start again, the car just stopped after hitting some branches in the vineyards, and it would not restart. They did not understand what happened, but after consulting the team they eventually found the problem connected to the fire extinguisher. A branch must have hit the extinguisher button that is between bonnet and front screen and released the extinguisher. That cut all electricity. They lost 5 minutes, unfortunately, in this incident."

Maybe the same happened to Henning ?

[blissard]

If it had not been for the split times service, I would never have visited wrc.com, that is how poor that site is !

Very few scoops on that site to say the least !!


Agreed. The design is slightly better, but the content is still crap.

[blissard]

Petter wins the stage :)

[Tom206wrc]

Fantastic time for Petter on SS4 :cool:
But real unluck on SS1 ;(

Sordo is doing a good job with a new codriver(Diego Vallejo) :)

[bennizw]

Petter will have no problems getting into the top six throughout the day.

[Tom206wrc]

Broken rims for Ogier after SS4(Turbomagazine bring this news) ??? :confused:

[pettersolberg29]

Broken rims for Ogier after SS4(Turbomagazine bring this news) ??? :confused:

Colin Clark said that too on WRR.

[Halvis]

This shows again how poor the Impreza was on tarmac, even in the years it was competetive on gravel. Petter is really impressive in the C4!

[Livewireshock]

Tanak has broken his front right suspension

[Karukera]

If it had not been for the split times service, I would never have visited wrc.com, that is how poor that site is !

Very few scoops on that site to say the least !!


WRC.com has the same colour scheme as BP... :s tare:

[GigiGalliNo1]

I think he got run over by a tyre or burnt!

haha

OW OW OW on WRR!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Finger in door

[GigiGalliNo1]

Things you do for Rally! :D

[Bartek]

Any photos from rally? :)

[blissard]

Yes, dramatic! Squashed finger, sounded bad.

And Petter is slow.. hmmph.

[Halvis]

Yes, dramatic! Squashed finger, sounded bad.

And Petter is slow.. hmmph.

Hmmm...slow...don't know if that is the term, he's still 3rd fastest...

It was clear from the start of this stage that Seb and Sordo really went for it.

[N.O.T]

Ogier passed Hirvonen on this one....Latvala is next in his sights.

[pettersolberg29]

What tyres is everyone using? Petter using hard compounds this afternoon, while he had soft tyres this morning. May explain his pace on the first stage, and slower pace on the next one.

[Mirek]

I guess that all of them are on hard compound now.

[Barreis]

He counted on hot asphalt..

[blissard]

Hmmm...slow...don't know if that is the term, he's still 3rd fastest...

It was clear from the start of this stage that Seb and Sordo really went for it.

Okok.. not slow, but slower in comparison to the previous stages.

[Hartusvuori]

While we are bashing the wrc.com, can I introduce you to Janne Tuohino no one knows (http://www.wrc.com/swrc/drivers-and-teams/drivers/janne-tuohino/?whoid=25)... nice work.

[Mirek]

While we are bashing the wrc.com, can I introduce you to Janne Tuohino no one knows (http://www.wrc.com/swrc/drivers-and-teams/drivers/janne-tuohino/?whoid=25)... nice work.

You know, they both have same initials - JT :D

[John V]

While we are bashing the wrc.com, can I introduce you to Janne Tuohino no one knows (http://www.wrc.com/swrc/drivers-and-teams/drivers/janne-tuohino/?whoid=25)... nice work.

Thanx a lot :) Will overhand this JT next week personally and ask him for autograph on this as well ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

mmmm... Pepper Steak...

[Halvis]

Petter really going for it on SS6 - -1.8 to Seb on split 2!

[N.O.T]

Solberg on a charge once again...and Hirvonen trying harder to manage and pass Ogier once more.

[N.O.T]

MIstake by Solberg...or something worse ? lost 10 seconds on 1 split.

[blissard]

Petter stopped :(

Edit: and moving again..

[N.O.T]

:( :( real pity...now the ford finnish puppys will only be ridiculed by Ogier.

[Halvis]

Petter really going for it on SS6 - -1.8 to Seb on split 2!

Too much maybe? Probably had a small spin, suddenly lost 10 secs.

[N.O.T]

now 1.54 behind LOeb...puncture or maybe had an off and broke something.

[pettersolberg29]

Back to the old Petter we know and love - very quick but either suffering from bad luck or loss of concentration/crashes far too regularly!

[N.O.T]

Puncture again..... :( :( but his fault...he went wide and boom

[Tom206wrc]

Oh no, Petter in SS6 ;(

[N.O.T]

day is over...real pity by solberg 3rd place would be very easy for him to achieve....Ogier tommorow will be 1 minute ahead of the ford kids if he stays on the road.

[pettersolberg29]

6th should still be possible for Petter. Only 1:30 behind Wilson, Kimi and Co.

[N.O.T]

6th should still be possible for Petter. Only 1:30 behind Wilson, Kimi and Co.

yes for sure beating those nobodies is certain but i think with the runs through the 48 Kms stage he would have a chance in the official kids as well...or at least have a battle on day 3.

[Woodeye]

By the way, great that Ford was able to "get" Duval to drive in Germany. Just a bit over 3 minutes behind the lead currently. Makes me wonder why he is not a factory driver. :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

By the way, great that Ford was able to "get" Duval to drive in Germany. Just a bit over 3 minutes behind the lead currently. Makes me wonder why he is not a factory driver. :rolleyes:

He drove half a section with broken driveshaft and now had problems with engine overheating. I don't like Duval but this time it's the car to blame.

[pettersolberg29]

yes for sure beating those nobodies is certain but i think with the runs through the 48 Kms stage he would have a chance in the official kids as well...or at least have a battle on day 3.

Two things: firstly, how come your attitude towards Petter has changed? Last year he was one of those 'nobodies' according to you! Personally I like your new attitude much more ;)

Secondly, of course you're right. Should get to 6th in two or three stages if he's pushing. On the 48km stage he could take up to 30s from Mikko and JML I think so pretty soon Petter will be within 'puncture distance'. Trouble is, I can see Petter pushing so hard he will end up with another puncture, or worse a proper crash and retirement. At least all his bad luck is coming today - hopefully full-attack in Japan where I honestly believe he will be joint favourite with Loeb.

[pettersolberg29]

]He drove half a section with broken driveshaft and now had problems with engine overheating. I don't like Duval but this time it's the car to blame.

He'd still be a mile behind though wouldn't he? He'd be about 1m30s off the lead still which for a 'specialist' isn't very good. Reminiscent of Subaru getting Tirabassi as an asphalt specialist, even though he failed to get into the top 10 with regularity!

[User]

Duval is driving a WRC 2008 .. hasn't been in the WRC for two years ... had technical issues with the car.

[Mirek]

I think that it's quite naive to expect someone to be on podium when his last rally was nearly one year a go. Also I think that being faster with Stobart car is quite tough challenge itself.

[pettersolberg29]

Duval is driving a WRC 2008 .. hasn't been in the WRC for two years ... had technical issues with the car.


]I think that it's quite naive to expect someone to be on podium when his last rally was nearly one year a go. Also I think that being faster with Stobart car is quite tough challenge itself.

You're both right - sorry but I was a bit ignorant as I thought Duval had equal machinery to Mikko and JML for this rally. As he has a Stobart 08 car it's an OK performance I suppose then. I'd still expect him to speed up over the next two days though.

[I am evil Homer]

Duval is okay but he'll never be a top driver - history has shown us that. But I think he can do a decent job when he needs to. Sadly Ford don't give him a decent car to even try and put pressure on Ogier and Sordo.

[Barreis]

I'm so happy that there's no Finns as a champs for years..

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Neuville in last stage ??? :confused:

[N.O.T]

Maybe its time for their managers to put their brains to work instead of their pockets...

[Woodeye]

Duval is driving a WRC 2008 .. hasn't been in the WRC for two years ... had technical issues with the car.

Yes, exactly. Haven't driven a WRC for two years. I never understood why he was dragged to Germany. And even if he would drive F1 car over there he still wouldn't be on the top.

[N.O.T]

NEUVILLE T. / KLINGER N.Stopped, engine overheating problems reported

from rally.cz

[N.O.T]

Yes, exactly. Haven't driven a WRC for two years. I never understood why he was dragged to Germany. And even if he would drive F1 car over there he still wouldn't be on the top.

i think the reason was to keep kimmi behind and maybe benefit from its experience and try and push ogier into a mistake.

I never liked duval too fat and way too bad character for the sport, but i think in a C4 he would be ahead of both fords.

[Tomi]

Maybe its time for their managers to put their brains to work instead of their pockets...

You mean like with Ogier?

[Woodeye]

I never liked duval too fat and way too bad character for the sport, but i think in a C4 he would be ahead of both fords.

I think that any Citroen would be ahead of Fords currently. Or should be.

[User]

Yes, exactly. Haven't driven a WRC for two years. I never understood why he was dragged to Germany. And even if he would drive F1 car over there he still wouldn't be on the top.

Actually Duval paid for the ride himself. So he wasn't "dragged'. I think he does pretty good. But, since he's aiming for a return to the WRC, I wonder why he didn't pick a Fiesta S2000.

[Tomi]

But, since he's aiming for a return to the WRC, I wonder why he didn't pick a Fiesta S2000.

Wont happen, samekind of daydreamer like Tuohino.

[N.O.T]

You mean like with Ogier?

FFSA and Citroen were extremely lucky with him...these things happen once in 10 years maybe less.

I am talking about blocking other drivers careers by pumping money into official teams.

[Tomi]

FFSA and Citroen were extremely lucky with him...these things happen once in 10 years maybe less.

I am talking about blocking other drivers careers by pumping money into official teams.

Ogier has finnish manager, but actually whos carreer has been blocked, it would be nice to hear.

[noel157]

I think NOT means spreading the money around other up and coming drivers rather than pumping it into a specific team for a specific driver.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_solberg__patterson_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_913d99 823c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_block__gelsomimo_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_0e6320ad 9d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_pons__haro_%28ford_fiesta_s2000%29_d7a32d71a0. jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_latvala__antilla_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_699b0970 56.jpg

More photos from 1st leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=768&fseason=2010) ;)

[Tomi]

I think NOT means spreading the money around other up and coming drivers rather than pumping it into a specific team for a specific driver.

I dont understand this whole thing, rally is a professional sport and every driver has a manager, or should have, and the managers job is to do the best possile for the driver he represents.
Every one can become a manager, its just to find a good driver, make a plan, and see that he has enough sponsors so that he can consentrate on the driving. Is that wrong somehow?
But I still would like to hear whos carreer has been blocked, just to get a good laugh.

[N.O.T]

its not a particular one...its just doesn't give the team a choice to change their drivers....especially in a team which is run by M-sport and not from the factory itself so its easy to pump Wilsons pockets with money to keep the ones you want....Latvala would be long gone, and mr hirvonen would not be that safe either from the current results. In any other team running properly after bulgaria and the fiasco of the ford team i don't think the same drivers would be the official ones in germany.

In citroen these kind of stupid things don't happen...if you are not good you get replaced...because the big bosses are watching.

[Tomi]

its not a particular one...its just doesn't give the team a choice to change their drivers....especially in a team which is run by M-sport and not from the factory itself so its easy to pump Wilsons pockets with money to keep the ones you want....Latvala would be long gone, and mr hirvonen would not be that safe either from the current results. In any other team running properly after bulgaria and the fiasco of the ford team i don't think the same drivers would be the official ones in germany.

In citroen these kind of stupid things don't happen...if you are not good you get replaced...because the big bosses are watching.

I have no idea what is M-Sports economic situation, or what was the reason behind the dissaster in Bulgaria.
But seriously, no manager can order any teamboss about who drives their cars.

[Allar]

Somenews of Ott Tänak.

He hit a hole in the road and bend he's car steering arm.

[OldF]

ADAC Rally Deutschland = business as usual. It’s not difficult to predict the winner.

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Burçu Cetinkaya during rally ??? She collected so many penalties and now she retired(end of leg one) :confused:

[jonkka]

JML is now beating Mikko on tar too...

[wwbroe]

But still way off the pace of Citroen drivers :(

[HaCo]

Superstars are crying about a bit of gravel on the last part of the stage. If only they would have driven the old (and awesome) panzerplatte.


What was the cz result page again with english quotes?

[jonkka]

Pz is still to come...

[wwbroe]

Superstars are crying about a bit of gravel on the last part of the stage. If only they would have driven the old (and awesome) panzerplatte.


What was the cz result page again with english quotes?


http://www.vysledky-rally.cz

[HaCo]

If there are still people denying that Loeb is a phenomenon, they should watch his times and his comments. He is .5 faster but was a bit too cautious. Just incredible. Since 2001 he is winning this event and it looks so easy!

[mm1]

Now Loeb pushed on the limit, but Sordo is 2.7 faster :)

[jonkka]

If there are still people denying that Loeb is a phenomenon, they should watch his times and his comments. He is .5 faster but was a bit too cautious. Just incredible. Since 2001 he is winning this event and it looks so easy!

I don't think it's a big surprise, Seb has 7 wins in his "home" event, just like Gronholm has 7 wins in his home event.

[HaCo]

I don't think it's a big surprise, Seb has 7 wins in his "home" event, just like Gronholm has 7 wins in his home event.

So all tarmac rally's are his home? He's is rich and could have a lot of houses of course :D

[mm1]

This is actualy the closest rally to his home in the whole calendar. Don`t know about the new event in France, is it also in this region?

[René]

Except that Marcus won his home event 7 times in 18 participations and Loeb 7 times on 7 participations for only a neighbouring event. Loeb home event will be in October with one stage in his home town.

[HaCo]

Looking forward to the times of the 48km stage.

SWRC battle is also very nice!

[Ucci]

Kimi already in front of Wilson. Go, F1 boy !!!
Yesterday evening my friends called me straight from Trier and all they said: Loeb is from another world, his driving style, speed-seeng from the eyes of spectator deserved No.1 in world rallying. Talking about attractivity-JML and F1 kid Kimi also very, very fast and sideways.....

[René]

Something wrong with Kimi car???

[Brother John]

Looking forward to the times of the 48km stage.

SWRC battle is also very nice!

Who will not finnisch that stage?

[HaCo]

New leader in SWRC! :)

[piquet20]

Kimi already in front of Wilson. Go, F1 boy !!!
Yesterday evening my friends called me straight from Trier and all they said: Loeb is from another world, his driving style, speed-seeng from the eyes of spectator deserved No.1 in world rallying. Talking about attractivity-JML and F1 kid Kimi also very, very fast and sideways.....

i was in sanremo in 2003 and i can say i now what your friends are talking about...insane speed from loeb...but in those days mr. attractive was colin mcrae! :)

[blissard]

Panzerplatte is live! This will be exciting.

[wwbroe]

Let's see if this 48 km long stage can make any difference. :D

[ProRally]

Panzerplatte is live! This will be exciting.

Tires are going to be finished after 48km on the ruff concrete ...

[saxter]

any live streaming....???????

thanks in advance

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting first splits for Petter on SS10 :)

[René]

At the end of this stage the bill will be very heavy...

[Woodeye]

Petter seems to be the only one who can keep on Loeb's pace. Or close to it anyway.

[ProRally]

JM maybe stopped in the stage....

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Solberg won't be hampered by Wilslow and Räikkö(caught on stage and overtaken, etc) :mark:

[ProRally]

Got going again but now already 35 sec down

[jonkka]

JML's final split is in "ouch" territory...

[René]

mistake of Jarri Matti??

[N.O.T]

a spin...

[Tom206wrc]

After 6 splits Solberg is only +2.6" from Loeb...keep that pace, man and 7th position is possibly for you :bounce:

[N.O.T]

real pity for solberg yesterday....

[Woodeye]

what's the gap between the drivers when they hit the stage? 1,5 or 2 mins?

[jonkka]

2 mins

[Tom206wrc]

Solberg even a bit faster than Loeb on penultimate split(+3.7") :eek:

[blissard]

Yeah, so Petter still has a minute up to Kimi.

[wwbroe]

What an incredible pace by Seb Loeb, only Sordo and Solberg can stay a little bit in his neighbourhood. :eek:

[Woodeye]

Kimi on his 2nd tarmac rally has been faster than Wilson on every single stage exept SS9 today. It's really hard for me to understand why the son even bothers to drive.

[N.O.T]

SOlberg ahead of both wilson and kimi

[N.O.T]

Kimi on his 2nd tarmac rally has been faster than Wilson on every single stage exept SS9 today. It's really hard for me to understand why the son even bothers to drive.

indeed its getting really annoying and ridiculous.... maybe he realises how much of joke is after this season...he is a disgrace.

[Woodeye]

indeed its getting really annoying and ridiculous.... maybe he realises how much of joke is after this season...he is a disgrace.

Agreed. And the oddest thing is that he is not developing at all. Just as bad from year to year.

[pettersolberg29]

Agreed. And the oddest thing is that he is not developing at all. Just as bad from year to year.

If anything he's getting worse. A couple of years back he got top 5 on a few stages - now thats just a pipe dream for him!

[Barreis]

C4 is just faster plus skill..

[HaCo]

Fantastic pace of Solberg! Even Duval is in reach now.

These last years at Subaru made a very bad image of him, what a shame!

[HaCo]

Fantastic battle in SWRC!

[Viking]

I`m impressed by Sandell, never really rate him as a tarmac driver :up:

[Livewireshock]

Great result for Paddon!!!! Fantastic for a tarmac result

[Sulland]

Fantastic battle in SWRC!

Yes, hopefully 1,6T cars next year will bring the same, but not sure....

[GigiGalliNo1]

What Mitsubishi were they just asking/talking about on WRR? WRC Evo? Who's driving it?

[Livewireshock]

What Mitsubishi were they just asking/talking about on WRR? WRC Evo? Who's driving it?

De Jong / Hillen WRC Lancer 05

It was the one with the wing halfway up the bootlid, which is why it looks odd and throwing Colin off.

[Honza H.]

I`m impressed by Sandell, never really rate him as a tarmac driver :up:

Interesting thing is that in the SWRC there is no tarmac specialist, maybe with the exception of Pons and partially of Prokop (but even Prokop, as he said last year before Barum rally, feels nowadays more confident on gravel, because it´s been many years since he left Czech tarmac rallys).

Would be interesting to see the times of some asphalt specialists. Anyway, still a surprisingly good pace by Sandell and co.

[BVB Rallying]

De Jong / Hillen WRC Lancer 05

It was the one with the wing halfway up the bootlid, which is why it looks odd and throwing Colin off.
That's a very cool car with a superb sound. Mark van Eldik, this rally driving a Subaru WRC S14, normally also drives a Lancer WRC, just FYI :)
Hans Weijs still going strong and survived the first 48km stage...

[Mirek]

Not only that, there is even Lancer WRC Step.2 in the rally. That car is absolute rarity nowadays! It's driven by old gentleman driver Henk Vossen. Car which was owned by Jasper Van den Heuvel before.

[Barreis]

Worst car of 2002..

[Ucci]

What a shame for Ford drivers: on Panzerplatte first Focus is more than 30 seconds behind Loeb. That is more than half second per 1km of the stage....And again-dissapointment drive by Mikko....with this way of driving he will never be a true champion....He sholud at least lead among Focus drivers!

[Honza H.]

With all the respect to Mikko, he´s heading for becoming nr. 2 in the Ford team, if anyone with Ford shall become a champion, it will be Jari-Matti. The question is, will the switch of positions in the Ford team come next season already?

[GigiGalliNo1]

De Jong / Hillen WRC Lancer 05

It was the one with the wing halfway up the bootlid, which is why it looks odd and throwing Colin off.

I thought it would have been that one.... the US spec Rally Cars they use in American Champs bla bla bla have EVo IX's and VIII's with those spoilers too!


Worst car of 2002..

Oh?

[Mirek]

Car of Florian Niegel burned completely yesterday... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov3cLdBYZg

[Barreis]

Bad..

[N.O.T]

next stage should be on...

[N.O.T]

latvala equals sordos time and Ogier equals Loebs one ... :)

[N.O.T]

Kimi overtakes slowson....why is he bothering ?

[blissard]

And Petter wins another stage \o/

[Mirek]

SWRC extremely close :)

[wwbroe]

Yes, the fight in SWRC is very nice to follow. As there are no real tarmac specialist among them it is probably even closer. :)

[N.O.T]

it would be nice to see where ketomaa would be among them...

[Mirek]

I would prefer to see Meeke there ;)

[N.O.T]

Meeke kopecky and hanninen would probably run in circles among the swrc drivers on tarmac, on gravel ketomaa would be a good fight.

[Mirek]

VdHeuvel yesterday tested some kind of independent steering:

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_e115a78109889ab6c208c049c6901ab7.jpg

[N.O.T]

Solberg stalled a few Kms from the end...he would be the fastest through otherwise as it seems.

[blissard]

Why is it so hard to get the splits working correctly on wrc.com...... amateurish.

[wwbroe]

]VdHeuvel yesterday tested some kind of independent steering:

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_e115a78109889ab6c208c049c6901ab7.jpg

Apparently the car caught fire and burned, both crew members were taken to hospital with burn-injuries. :(

[Daniel]

]VdHeuvel yesterday tested some kind of independent steering:

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_e115a78109889ab6c208c049c6901ab7.jpg

Reminds me of a 306 I saw in Strasbourg with independent rear camber :)

[N.O.T]

cruising mode and some testing for the citroen guys from now on.

[N.O.T]

both fords now in quitters mode...nice.

[User]

both fords now in quitters mode...nice.

I was wondering why Duval's times were so good compared to the Ford boys :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

Oh no Mikko! no Drive ! :(

[René]

Mikko stoped on stage

[René]

It's the Ford "Березина"

[jonkka]

Ouch...

[Mirek]

It's the Ford "Березина"

:D

[Woodeye]

what happened to Mikko?

[René]

what happened to Mikko?

Reported stopped, transmission problems probably But Duval said it's could be steering broken

[alleskids]

so no need to hold back Sordo, as Loeb is now virtual 2010 champion, and give Sordo the freedom to fight a real fight for victory

[Mirek]

so no need to hold back Sordo, as Loeb is now virtual 2010 champion, and give Sordo the freedom to fight a real fight for victory

How come? He would have 191 points. Latvala 117 with 4 remaing rounds with maximum 100 points from four victories. It's still not decided although it's just theoretical possibility for JML.

[JAM]

]How come? He would have 191 points. Latvala 117 with 4 remaing rounds with maximum 100 points from four victories. It's still not decided although it's just theoretical possibility for JML.

In Portugal they didin't made that kind of calculations.... ah ok, but was a french driver fighting with Loeb.

[Mv Toy]

Meeke kopecky and hanninen would probably run in circles among the swrc drivers on tarmac, on gravel ketomaa would be a good fight.
Dont count pons out somebody says!
Now Prokop,PG and Sandell drives in circles around him!

[Mirek]

How does Pons relate to Meeke or Kopecký?

[blissard]

Panzerplatte 2 is on.. hope Petter got his brake problem fixed :|

[René]

In Portugal they didin't made that kind of calculations.... ah ok, but was a french driver fighting with Loeb.

In Portugal Mr Quesnel wanted to ask Ogier to leave the win for Loeb. But Loeb explained to Mr Quesnel that he did not want a win in these conditions and that Seb Ogier deserved to win..

[pettersolberg29]

Don't want to jinx it, but Petter is flying.

[JAM]

In Portugal Mr Quesnel wanted to ask Ogier to leave the win for Loeb. But Loeb explained to Mr Quesnel that he did not want a win in these conditions and that Seb Ogier deserved to win..

Yes, the kind of thing that he never said about Sordo.

Can you see the difference?

I believe that Sordo is not good on gravel, but i believe that on tarmac he can do as well as Loeb, but never had the chance to prove it.

[blissard]

Driving on the limit for 50 km.. this is nerve wrecking.

[pettersolberg29]

Driving on the limit for 50 km.. this is nerve wrecking.

I often wonder what it's like as a fan of Loeb, because you must always KNOW that Loeb will finish and finish fast. Supporting Petter adds 10 years to your age as one minute he's flying, the next he's rolling down a hill or hitting a huge rock...

[N.O.T]

Yes, the kind of thing that he never said about Sordo.

Can you see the difference?

well never before the difference between the 2 cars was that big....and lets be honest Sordo or any other driver NEVER managed to be ahead of Loeb and in a winning position for citroen to slow them down and let Loeb take the win...they usually imposed orders to stop fighting when things where close...

I might be wrong but i cannot recal any time Sordo being slowed down to let Loeb pass him...can you?

[René]

Yes, the kind of thing that he never said about Sordo.

Can you see the difference?

I believe that Sordo is not good on gravel, but i believe that on tarmac he can do as well as Loeb, but never had the chance to prove it.

Dani is a great driver include on tarmac too and I can tell you that relations between Loeb and Dani are much better than with Ogier for sure :-)))

[N.O.T]

Ogier loses some seconds at the end.

[N.O.T]

Ogier hit a pole but no real damage.

[N.O.T]

duval ...no splits.

[René]

Duval off road????

[Mirek]

Duval?

[N.O.T]

Duval probably out...

[Mirek]

SWRC again incredibly close

[N.O.T]

Rolled...crew ok...the car is on its roof according to slowkid

[Sulland]

Duval doing a F16 !

[BVB Rallying]

"Duval on his roof..." ? That should be a shame :eek:
I think he was driving very very good this weekend!

[Mirek]

Duval classic end...

[N.O.T]

the finish pioneer reporter showed the way to interview Kimi...now all reporters open the door of the car for him and ask him !!! :) :) :)

[blissard]

I guess he felt the pressure from Petter flying like a maniac.

[N.O.T]

very nice for peter...and 5th is his...nice :)

[Woodeye]

I think he was driving very very good this weekend!

On what basis he was doing well? Faster than Kimi and Wilson? Yippee.

[René]

Ken Block said the Mikko's problem was gear box broken...

[N.O.T]

On what basis he was doing well? Faster than Kimi and Wilson? Yippee.

his times where quite close to latvalas and Hirvonens...he wasn't doing bad considering his absence.

[BVB Rallying]

On what basis he was doing well? Faster than Kimi and Wilson? Yippee.
After a long time not driving a WRC car he does serveral 6th times, i think that is honourable.

[Sulland]

What happened to Henning this time, an off or car gremlins ?

[Mirek]

his times where quite close to latvalas and Hirvonens...he wasn't doing bad considering his absence.

And in Stobart old-spec car...

[Karukera]

After a long time not driving a WRC car he does serveral 6th times, i think that is honourable.

It was an honourable drive until ripping off a Ford Focus.

[Allyc85]

Duval has done well again ROFL, or is that not the right term ;)