2009 Rally Finland - official thread

[r199]

ok guys thanks for the info

[Miika]

Evgeny-boy in the trees once more in SS14:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2009/760053.jpg

[r199]

on wrc timing he is in and lost kind a 4 minutes

[John V]

on wrc timing he is in and lost kind a 4 minutes
+5 min means Superally ;)

[rockpoll]

Hello. I am searching for some photos Ford Team from Finland

[r199]

oops whas looking at the split times

[alleskids]

http://www.worldrallypics.com/fotoweb/search_result_ford.fwx?folderid=5001&columns=6&rows=3&search= Ford in Finland

[r199]

Loeb a flat hihihihihihi

[pavlos_a]

loeb problem or started raining hard?

[jonkka]

Tyre problem (puncture or off rim). Fight is over.

[Miika]

Congrats Mikko.

[N.O.T]

puncture and game over for Loeb....nice victory for mikko, well deserved this time in a flat out battle in his back yard.

[SubaruNorway]

No not too bad. He went into the ditch and cut down a tree.
But for the day it will be over for him, as the front of the car looked heavy damaged.

But he must have some off already before, as the back of the car had some damage before.

They talked about someone making a massive jump infront of a camera crew and landing on the rear bumper, didn't get the name but i assumed it was him :p

[N.O.T]

Latvala begins his attack on sordo....

[jimakos]

I think Loeb make a tragic fault!!
Congrats Mikko didn't expect such a nice rally ;)

[John V]

Guys, still is not over. 20 sec is one overshooted junction. But Mikko is doing excellent job, no doubts about it.

[jimakos]

Latvala begins his attack on sordo....

From the start of rally Latvala is chasing Sordo and now he's too close!
N.O.T. whodo you believe 'll take 3rd position??

[N.O.T]

no 3rd place is reserved for rautenbach...

[Mauri A]

Congrats Mikko.
For what? The rally isn´t over yet.

[Tomi]

For what? The rally isn´t over yet.

true, 1 stone can change everything, pity it was not solved by driving.

[awake27]

The first time we agree!!!Don't forget that Spain is waiting and there Sordo will play his role as well....
As things stands out now, the favour is in Mikko's side. Points lead, 2 gravel-1 tarmac rallies left so more chances of Latvala helping his team-mate rather Sordo. Has ever Sordo beaten Hirvonen in gravel? No. Has Latvala beaten Loeb? Yes.

[Brother John]

[quote="Tomi"]

Hi Tomi
Normal we had to be at the restaurant tonight and have together a ...... you know. :D

[Tomi]

Hi Tomi
Normal we had to be at the restaurant tonight and have together a ...... you know. :D

Lol, true :) , i was supposed to go today but something came up.

[Brother John]

Lol, true :) , i was supposed to go today but something came up.

Yes i´m home also, I have to go to my daughters wedding around 15.00 this afternoon. ;)

[bt52b]

Was I hearing things, or did I just hear Zane Lowe from BBC Radio 1 on WRR after Kasabian's Fire?

[Mauri A]

Yes i´m home also, I have to go to my daughters wedding around 15.00 this afternoon. ;)
I would say that it is not a reason enough to stay at home!!!

[awake27]

Meanwhile I'm reading that Loeb might have more serious problem from a puncture, his suspension might have broken from a bump.

[Brother John]

[quote="Brother John":9l7ufqoy]
I would say that it is not a reason enough to stay at home!!![/quote:9l7ufqoy]

For me it is important enouh to be with my daughter! :s mokin:

[Fleur]

Can anyone tell me a link to the results of the local rally that is running behind today of the WRC event?? My friend is driving...

[r199]

Fleur u mean this???
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/spectators/killerirallysprint/

[Fleur]

Yes, maybe this is it??
Is this the one Harri Rovenpera is doing??

[jonkka]

or this one?
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/vetomies/veto09/

[r199]

i dont know
think one of the 2 links

[Fleur]

or this one?
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/vetomies/veto09/

Yes, i think this one. How do i get results??

[N.O.T]

stage started Loeb doesn't seem to quit the chase and his supsension seems fine

[Fleur]

Ahh, definately it, and toni gardemister not harri.

[jonkka]

Yes, i think this one. How do i get results??

Unfortunately info is only in Finnish but results have English as well:
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/vetomies/veto09/tulokset/

[Fleur]

Want to know how this car is going...
Tapio Suominen HyUA
Pasi Hedman ValUA Pasi Hedman
BMW M3 F1

[Mauri A]

Meanwhile I'm reading that Loeb might have more serious problem from a puncture, his suspension might have broken from a bump.
doesn´t look like that after the 1st split.

[Fleur]

Unfortunately info is only in Finnish but results have English as well:
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/vetomies/veto09/tulokset/

Can only get one car showing in results...

[awake27]

Latvala finally driving with his full potential now, Sordo will have trouble to resist.

[jonkka]

Can only get one car showing in results...

Stage started only 13:48... so it's still running...

[paddocknews]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "It's over now. I don't want to make mistake, have to finish."

[Fleur]

Stage started only 13:48... so it's still running...

Haha, oh okay. I forget how far behind ...
Its 11 pm at night here!!!

[jonkka]

Haha, oh okay. I forget how far behind ...
Its 11 pm at night here!!!

First results are ready there now...

[N.O.T]

Latvala could easily challenge Loeb and Hirvonen in Finland but unfortunatelly his previous imature mistakes didn;t allow him to unfold his true potential from the start....Sordo was never a threat here.

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "It's over now. I don't want to make mistake, have to finish."

I don;t trust him.....this means he will not take risks but for sure he is going to keep the distance "a puncture or small off" away to benefit in case.

[Miika]

The Russian boy surely can´t have any financial issues since he can afford to harvest the forest like this once or twice every day with his yellow C4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y4tvGE9NE4

[lcd]

I don;t trust him.....this means he will not take risks but for sure he is going to keep the distance "a puncture or small off" away to benefit in case.

I agree...It's one of those tactics Loeb uses , not only In driving but In
talking too..! ;)

[Psycho!]

Latvala could easily challenge Loeb and Hirvonen in Finland but unfortunatelly his previous imature mistakes didn;t allow him to unfold his true potential from the start....
Hmmm...Sometimes you are an ordinary person...Keep it up!! :D

[N.O.T]

The Russian boy surely can´t have any financial issues since he can afford to harvest the forest like this once or twice every day with his yellow C4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y4tvGE9NE4

I believe that Novikov is a driver with talent that can stand in a works team in 2-3 years time....in finland i guess he tried to do too much too soon. maybe because the rallies he learned how to drive in russia are similar in conditions made him believe that he could shine in Fionland and didn;t show the proper respect to the event.

[noel157]

I believe that Novikov is a driver with talent that can stand in a works team in 2-3 years time....in finland i guess he tried to do too much too soon. maybe because the rallies he learned how to drive in russia are similar in conditions made him believe that he could shine in Fionland and didn;t show the proper respect to the event.

I agree (surprisingly). The boy has talent.

[Tomi]

maybe because the rallies he learned how to drive in russia are similar in conditions made him believe that he could shine in Fionland and didn;t show the proper respect to the event.

well the main difference in the roads is, that we have ditches, when in russia they dont have, and because of that our roads also are harder/much faster, even that the roads look from tv simular they are very different.

[Mauri A]

well the main difference in the roads is, that we have ditches, when in russia they dont have, and because of that our roads also are harder/much faster, even that the roads look from tv simular they are very different.
Well, by now he maybe has realised that there are ditches in Finland!

[Tomi]

Well, by now he maybe has realised that there are ditches in Finland!
Lol, i was thinking the same yesterday, wide line is ok when no ditches :)

[Mauri A]

According to Finnish newspapers it looks like Räikkönens rally is over. Kimi commented "Schock absorber is gone and the engine is finito"

[N.O.T]

what a relief hanninen must feel...he was breathing down his neck the whole rally that celebrity kid....what a talent.

[Mauri A]

what a relief hanninen must feel...he was breathing down his neck the whole rally that celebrity kid....what a talent.

So, after Ford´s kids and sick dogs you have found a new target!

[N.O.T]

just for the weekend....

[SubaruNorway]

Compression problem for kimi so not looking good then, chipped valve maybe? Not sure what tends to break on the S2000 engine...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77486

[Mauri A]

just for the weekend....
Good comment, looks like you are growing older, at last!

[N.O.T]

stage starts in 1 minute.

[raybak]

I've been getting a good plug on Rally radio :)

Ray

[SubaruNorway]

I've been getting a good plug on Rally radio :)

Ray

Yeah you PR horny bugger ;)

Bit sad there's no eye in the sky on this loop, just not the same without it :(

[jonkka]

Bit sad there's no eye in the sky on this loop, just not the same without it :(

I've been w/o all the time... I won't pay MTV g**s a penny...

[N.O.T]

"no mas" by Loeb.....

[SubaruNorway]

I've been w/o all the time... I won't pay MTV g**s a penny...

Well it's because of people like you we won't have much live rally then!
It's not exactly cheap to have that helicopter in the air for all those hours you know.

[N.O.T]

Sordo faster than latvala ....nice strategy by the ford management.

[jonkka]

Well it's because of people like you we won't have much live rally then!

A channel that carries Formula 1 will only get hate mail from me.


It's not exactly cheap to have that helicopter in the air for all those hours you know.

Interestingly Rally NZ and Australia both managed that without charging?

[pavlos_a]

No power and faster than Alen???? Go Kimi!!!!

[Finni]

No power and faster than Alen???? Go Kimi!!!!

Maybe they got it fixed in the service..

[Mauri A]

No power and faster than Alen???? Go Kimi!!!!
Small off for Alen.

[Mauri A]

Maybe they got it fixed in the service..
No way!

[pavlos_a]

Small off for Alen.

Yet, very close to hanninen for kimi. His engine still has low pressure in one cylinder

[ste898]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "It's over now. I don't want to make mistake, have to finish."

I would'nt believe any words he says!!!!

[wwbroe]

Last stage of the day will go live soon. It is th longest one of the rally, measuring 29,29 Kms. Let's see if there will be any changes on this one.

[N.O.T]

its the most important stage of the rally...

[wwbroe]

No more splits for Miko? :confused:

[jonkka]

Split 5 for Mikko, he's OK

[wwbroe]

They are back now, i mean the splits for Miko. :)

[WRC1]

where is hirvonen??

here he is! passed split 5! ok!

[N.O.T]

gps problems...

[wwbroe]

He is at the finish of the stage, well done for him. ;)

[wwbroe]

Loeb is only 1.2 sec faster as Mikko, so no problem for Hirvonen, he stays well in the lead after this second day. Without any major problems or mistakes he will take victory in his home rally. :)

[WRC1]

rantanen loosing massive time, and östberg stopped in stage

[janvanvurpa]

Compression problem for kimi so not looking good then, chipped valve maybe? Not sure what tends to break on the S2000 engine...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77486

I build engines for rally and I would guess the biggest stress would be on the pistons.. These days headgaskets are multi-layer-steel and reliable. Rods no problem. Valves aren't that stressed relative to many other uses.
But heavy load like non-stop full throttle Finnish SS I could see ultimately big heat load and small seizure of piston to cylinder wall (nyppa på svenska, OK?)
Once the piston is scuffed it will soon be over.

synd, it was impressive drive. Shame he wasted all that time in funny cars before finding gravel and what real fun is.

[wwbroe]

Latvalla taking besttime and now 10.5 in front of Sordo, that should do it for third tomorrow.

[r199]

rantanen almost off in the stage and not happy he is as far from Loeb an Hirvonen

[wwbroe]

rantanen loosing massive time, and östberg stopped in stage

Rantanen isn't loosing so much time, only 28 sec on 29 Kms stage, so that is relatively good. :D

[Mauri A]

Räikkönen off!
And that was my 1000th post!

[r199]

ogier faster as sordo

[Helstar]

Räikkönen off!
I was only 1 day wrong ^^

[wwbroe]

Another good time for Ogier, who is coming close to Rantanen in overall classification, being only 17.5 sec behind. ;)

[r199]

Kimi seemd to have rolled hope thay are ok

[SubaruNorway]

I build engines for rally and I would guess the biggest stress would be on the pistons.. These days headgaskets are multi-layer-steel and reliable. Rods no problem. Valves aren't that stressed relative to many other uses.
But heavy load like non-stop full throttle Finnish SS I could see ultimately big heat load and small seizure of piston to cylinder wall (nyppa på svenska, OK?)
Once the piston is scuffed it will soon be over.

synd, it was impressive drive. Shame he wasted all that time in funny cars before finding gravel and what real fun is.

ok, well he is used to reving it at 18,000rpm so i guess he's excused hehe
Can study him here.
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=300&featureid=1298&desc=Finland 2009: Raikkonen on SS11

[N.O.T]

yes a usual ending to celebrity kids in their attempts.... hope they are ok.

[Mauri A]

yes a usual ending to celebrity kids in their attempts.... hope they are ok.

I think Räikkönen is on right learning curve just now. To find the speed you have to roll, roll and roll until you find the limits.

[Helstar]

What happened to Nikara ? First lots of time lost by penalties, then good times (he would have been 1'04" ahead of Kimi) but in SS15 he lost a lot, then even worse times, then retired (problems with the Evo X ?).

[Pinto]

graig breen having a great run leading thr festias

[r199]

novi jumps :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_3HGXpVgGk

[Helstar]

Holy crap, it's very similar to Hirvonen jump in Ouninpohja (2007) but this is even more dangerous ! He's mad xD !

[awake27]

WOW! Novikov quickly reaching Colin Mcrae level of madness.

[Eki]

Kimi seemd to have rolled hope thay are ok
NOT happy.

[Jafry]

Photos from 2nd leg (girls, jumps, fast section, 90 degree turn...) HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=550&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fautor=)

[Psycho!]

Novikov's jump is the monent of the year...FANTASTIC!!!

[N.O.T]

nice one by evgeny !!! hope he has the budget to support his career for a few more years then its straight in a works team....

[Ucci]

Howly cow !!! Yung boy from Russia is crazy !!! what a jump !!!!!!

[Miika]

Kimi rolling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGNbmeaYyc

[SubaruNorway]

Hahahah WTF is Novikov doing?! :laugh:

Now you don't get cheering when you crash at a F1 track ;)

[N.O.T]

Kimi rolling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGNbmeaYyc

And this is how you get creamed in rallying .....

[SubaruNorway]

More of Østberg and Kimi's roll in this one, i think Kimi enjoys the friendliness of the spectators hehe
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=300&page=1&featureid=1304&desc=Finland 2009: Meet the camera crew day two

[jonkka]

Loeb is slowing down too much - Latvala cut the difference from 36 sec to 26 in 10 km stage. With 36km's left...

[r199]

and has seams to look to walk in a 10 sec penalty

[Ucci]

Good morning to all you, let's hope nothing dramaticly happens today, no driver mistakes, no technical problems...Yust enjoy.

[bowler]

does anyone know what has happened to the Pirelli Star Drivers?

61Nicos THOMAS (CY)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN419DWITHDRAWN
63Jarkko NIKARA (FIN)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN416MECHANICAL
64Martin SEMERAD (CZE)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN416AMECHANICAL
65Mark TAPPER (NZ)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN415MECHANICAL

only one is still running

[SubaruNorway]

does anyone know what has happened to the Pirelli Star Drivers?

61Nicos THOMAS (CY)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN419DWITHDRAWN
63Jarkko NIKARA (FIN)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN416MECHANICAL
64Martin SEMERAD (CZE)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN416AMECHANICAL
65Mark TAPPER (NZ)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN415MECHANICAL

only one is still running

Think they all had engine faliure due to different reasons like jumps/offs from what i heard on the radio.

[bowler]

thanks

[iJones]

Code orange for SS22. Cancellation very close. :(

[SubaruNorway]

Code orange for SS22. Cancellation very close. :(

Why?

[iJones]

Spectators in wrong places etc.

Seems to be under control now.

[Mauri A]

Rautencrash off! Some 10 metres off the road.

[Doon]

Why the reverse order?

[John V]

Rautencrash off! Some 10 metres off the road.

Maybe he forgot both Seb and Dani front of him and want to help them tactically score more points ;) ... black joke, sorry.

[John V]

Why the reverse order?
At least it's best way for final ceremony ...

[SubaruNorway]

Why the reverse order?

The final stage is live so for the exitement they they do the top ten in reverse after regroup.

[dimviii]

last stage will decide who is going to take 5th place
i think that Ogier is the man to take the 5th.

[jonkka]

Diff between 1st - 2nd and 2nd - 3rd is exactly the same: 25,8 seconds...

[dimviii]

in last stage Latvala managed a 131,6 km/h :eek:
15,6 km in 6,52 minutes :eek:

[John V]

Juhuuuu! Juho in Top10 :)

[JTLarsen]

The final stage is live....

Live on WRC.com?

[r199]

?????? stage stoped?? no new times here after flodin

??? or timing down

[John V]

Hmm, seems something happened there ...

[SubaruNorway]

Live on WRC.com?

No on a finish site. mtv3.fi costs 9 euros for the weekend.

[r199]

stage stoped

[iJones]

Stage stopped and rest of the crews take alternative route to SS23.

[JTLarsen]

No on a finish site. mtv3.fi costs 9 euros for the weekend.

Yikes! Thanks for the info!

[r199]

why is the stage stoped?? anyone knows?????

[iJones]

Supposedly it is due to evacuation of crew #87 who crashed during Myhinpää I (SS21). Nothing serious apparently.

[r199]

thanks iJones

[John V]

Supposedly it is due to evacuation of crew #87 who crashed during Myhinpää I (SS21). Nothing serious apparently.
Yes, confirmed via SMS from Jyvaskylä

[Miika]

Incar of Kimi´s crash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yt-Bbqksa0

[jonkka]

Rantanen does Gronholm, winning a French driver in a Citroen by a mere 0,3 seconds :eek:

[iJones]

Excellent drive from Rantanen. :bounce:

[r199]

JML nice drive job well done like MW wishes it

[Psycho!]

A nice third from Latvala!Bravo!!

[Psycho!]

Gongrats Mikko!!A great shot at the title!!Good luck for the rest of the season!!!

[jonkka]

Third in a row and first at home - let's see what Mikko can do in the future...

[SubaruNorway]

Awesome drive by Mikko, what a rally! :D

Bit sad at the same time watching the S2000 going over the jumps, sertanly hope they get some body kits and better suspension when the introduce the 1,6T in 2011

[Maui J.]

Well done Mikko! Fantastic battle.

[Miika]

Three events to go, the title fight will be awesome.

[N.O.T]

Nice to see Mikko improving and fighting for the win...hope fully he can be equally fast on all events next year and have a good straight battle with Loeb.

Oz will be difficult for mikko...Road position plays an important role there and also since the event is new he must create the lines for the one to follow....also citroen will have the upper hands in tactics there.

Hopefully no accidents from now on and just a straight battle to the finish.... I will be in the UK for sure if the championship is on the line by then.

[RS]

Nice drive by Hanninen. Grp N win was a piece of cake for him, even against the other S2000s.

I still think Kimi's drive was impressive, despite his roll. Maybe in the Skoda he would have been ahead of Alen, and certainly Tuohino. Hope to see him in action again soon.

[John V]

Congrats to Hirvonen, Rantanen, Hanninen and Prokop-inen! :)

[alexlake]

good rally, impressed with Kimi till his crash, pretty good top four battle too. Im a loeb fan, but mikko deserved that win.

Just wish there were another four drivers/teams that could compete with loeb/milko/JM/sordo, those four are easily the best out there.

good rally!

[Brother John]

Congrat´s to Hirvonen he have deserved the victory in Finland, and Latvala this time has done a very well job, the 3 Citroën drivers, Loeb, Sordo and Ogier have shown that they are good drivers and have a terrible good car. :up:
I want to see Rantanen also sometimes in other WRC rallies. :up:
The Solberg brothers must show something different in the future to proof they still can come along in the WRC! :dozey:

[alleskids]

And a big congratualtion for Martin Prokop, for being the 2009 Junior World Rally Champion.
Prokop has 46 points and has Catalunya stil to come.
Kosciuszko has 42 and had Span passed in his list
Burkart is still doing Spain, but only has 35 points

[N.O.T]

judging by its champions JWRC and PWRC shoudll be scrapped after this year.....no disrespect to both champions who are dedicated drivers but these two championships should be the feeders of the big league and not what they are right now.

[J4MIE]

Well done Mikko :up:

[Mauri A]

Congrat´s to Organizing Committee, no hickups at all. Still the best organized rally in the world, even though the name is not 1000 Lakes anymore!

[Mirek]

Someone asked about PSD drivers and their Evo X adventures...

Semerád lost a sump guard on a big jump and that later caused braking of oil sump. They retired because of oil leak not to damage engine.

After the same jump they also lost brakes.

[Larry_Japan]

Congrat´s to Organizing Committee, no hickups at all. Still the best organized rally in the world, even though the name is not 1000 Lakes anymore!

... apart from the Greenpeace protests at the podium...

[Roy]

Does anyone has a high res. picture of Mattias Therman car #72?
Thanks in advance.

[PMM]

Pictures from Neste Oil Rally Finland:
http://www.rallikuvat.net/2009/norf/index.php

Including Gross roll from Kavala and Lahtinen (Vetomies competitor) roll from Leustu.

[N.O.T]

... apart from the Greenpeace protests at the podium...

what those tree huggers found to protest again ?? illegal butterfly hunting ??

[Larry_Japan]

what those tree huggers found to protest again ?? illegal butterfly hunting ??

Neste Bio Fuel uses palm oil, which is deforesting the rain forests

[jimakos]

Amazing race for Hirvonen!!
He managed to keep in 1st position 3 turns before the
end of championship.
Loeb didn't do his best in my opinion!
Congrats to Latvala for the pondium.
Ford had right for keeping him in the team!!
I really enjoyed this event :)

[Mirek]

I was out for the weekend. Does anyone know what happened to Aava on SS6?

[Helstar]

Just wish there were another four drivers/teams that could compete with loeb/milko/JM/sordo, those four are easily the best out there.
Not the best, just the only 4 who have works cars...

Congrats to Mikko, deserved win.

[ProRally]

]Someone asked about PSD drivers and their Evo X adventures...

Semerád lost a sump guard on a big jump and that later caused braking of oil sump. They retired because of oil leak not to damage engine.

After the same jump they also lost brakes.

In my humble opinion, the cars are cr*p, not the best preparator.
But what you want, I heard they want less then 1/2 of which a other 'good' preparator wanted.

[Miika]

Conrad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJH3orl5WOQ

No need for words.

[Tomi]

I like to mention Ketomaa's very good preformance, 1 time in a WRC rally with a WRC car, witout his problems he would have been up there fighting with Ogier and Rantanen, but anyway a good result.

[Nuts]

My pictures:

http://nutspix.com

[Salist]

My pictures:

http://nutspix.com

Very nice photos!!!
Thanks.

[SubaruNorway]

Anyone fancy a Novikov wallpaper? The one of Rantanen sideways over the jump is a good one too :D
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=690&fotograf=100&all=1

[White Sauron]

Haha))) I've just noticed the inscription on Rantanen car's front bumper: "The world's fastest nation"))) haha, you're damn right, Matti!!!

[N.O.T]

nice performance by Rautenbach....crashing in corners is just too common it takes real skill to crash on a straight line...

[Motorsportfun]

Conrad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJH3orl5WOQ

No need for words.

:rotflmao:
hahaha impressive! though was impossible to make giant mistakes on straight lines... was wrong :s mash: :s mash:

[Finni]

I like to mention Ketomaa's very good preformance, 1 time in a WRC rally with a WRC car, witout his problems he would have been up there fighting with Ogier and Rantanen, but anyway a good result.

Also the car is few minutes slower than Focus what makes that performance even more impressive. As driver Ketomaa is certainly different caliber to Rantanen.

[Tomi]

Also the car is few minutes slower than Focus what makes that performance even more impressive. As driver Ketomaa is certainly different caliber to Rantanen.

Agree, much much faster, good thing is that he in the radio spoke something about that his sponsors might get more interested in WRC events, now that they could see that the speed is there.

[Timole]

my photos of NORF 2009 (http://rallyphotos.pri.ee/index.php?page=1&gallery=0&sfpg=TmVzdGUgUmFsbHkgRmlubGFuZCAyMDA5OyAzMC4wNyAtI DAyLjA4LjIwMDk7IEp55HNreWzkLCBTb29tZS8qKioqKmFjNWI wOGQyZThiNWZkNjlmMDNiOWI4MzA2NThhMjQx).

[Ville]

]I was out for the weekend. Does anyone know what happened to Aava on SS6?

He broke something (arm?) at the left front, and they stopped for fixing it.

[Karukera]

Stunning rally ! one of the very best event for good reasons. Gotta see the huge crowd there, the stages, the trees, the speed.

Hirvonen makes it at last. Big congrats to him and the team. Must be a great feeling at home. Loeb finishes a rally for a change, the wheel out of the rim wouldn't have changed the trend, Hirvonen was steadily quicker.

4 wins in a row for Ford, it's going well for them, even a bit better for Hirvonen. Now the pressure is on Loeb. Hope for a thrilling end in the Welsh fog. :up:

[Miika]

Haha))) I've just noticed the inscription on Rantanen car's front bumper: "The world's fastest nation"))) haha, you're damn right, Matti!!!

Actually it´s the advertisement slogan of the pay-TV channel that is written on top of that phrase. So it´s not propably a message from Matti but an advertisement from the channel.

[Miika]

Another active F1 driver besides Kimi and Kubica showing some genuine interest towards rallying and the WRC in Jyväskylä:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYlkyhyQbrc

[Mirek]

He broke something (arm?) at the left front, and they stopped for fixing it.

Thank You

[pino]

Stunning rally ! one of the very best event for good reasons. Gotta see the huge crowd there, the stages, the trees, the speed.



I totally agree, once again I've enjoyed every single moment/action of this fantastic event :s mokin: Company also was great as usually thanks to Don Jippo, A.F.F. janneppi and all the others :D Too bad Kimi retired after a very promising race but congrats to Mikko for this amazing win :up: However I must admit that Ogier surprised me most :eek:

[J.Lindstroem]

Anyone fancy a Novikov wallpaper? The one of Rantanen sideways over the jump is a good one too :D
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=690&fotograf=100&all=1

you mean this jump?


http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=36401

[SubaruNorway]

you mean this jump?


http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=36401

Now that's just gay haha

[A.F.F.]

Fantastico weekend. Great rally resultwise and great company to follow it not to mention the weather was excellent all weekend. There was a huge rain but luckily it rained mostly at night.

We got to see three stages on friday, three on saturday and one on sunday. At saturday we witnessed one huge roll in group N ( which I únfortunately didn't get to tape ). Sunday we sucked inside information from Ford team representatives and also gave them much valuable information for the future :p :.

Mikko and Sebastien were at their own private level. They drove so fast comparing to anybody else that it was frightening. Sadly the fight was over at saturday but Mikko would have won NORF this year even without Sebastien's puncture. I had high hopes for Matti Rantanen and resultwise he didn't fail ( especially by that 0,3 seconds which secured my pickems win ) but speedwise it wasn't what I hoped. But most importantly, I didn't see that killer attitude in him. Unfortunately Rantanen seem to go in the same "nice-guy" gategory than Gardemeister. God for bid if I ever see a banana in his hand. Then it's over.

Talking about killer attitude, there was one guy above all others. Jari Ketomaa was just awesome with his Subaru and he pushed like crazy. And what more than a credit can you give to a guy who publicly announce his target in NORF to be on the podium... with an old Subaru and a first time with WRC :up: I really hope he get other chances. Apart from Juho Hänninen, Ketomaa was the best in this rally.

Too bad there really wasn't a fight in group N but Juho still showed how far ahead he is as a driver and Skoda is as car of the others.

Interesting fact was that every time I saw Latvala on stage, he seemed slower than Hirvonen, Loeb, Sordo but then the radio informed his top time. Strange.

All in all, a brilliant BRILLIANT weekend again in NORF and my special thanks to Korpilahti residents of their great attitude and flexibility towards rally guests :)

[Hartusvuori]

God forbid if I ever see a banana in his hand. Then it's over.

Kind of what I thought as well. Already Friday he was content with his 5th position saying he wouldn't want to risk it even if he wasn't happy with his speed. But bananas proved to be good at least from spectator point of view.


Talking about killer attitude, there was one guy above all others. Jari Ketomaa ...

Definitely the most spectacular driver of the weekend (I got to see Novikov only once...) and you could see his good pace. Ketomaa and Östberg gave the best jumps; I saw two slight mislandings by the Norwegian, sad that he never made it.


Interesting fact was that every time I saw Latvala on stage, he seemed slower than Hirvonen, Loeb, Sordo but then the radio informed his top time. Strange.

Noticed the same as well, though on Kavala and Myhinpää 2 he was clearly faster. He was driving it safe and on Friday you could notice he wasn't as familiar with the stages as were the others and on Saturday he was clearly a bit under the weather, so I kind of missed the attack he could've gave, but as a result this is of course far better for what it could've been in a worst case scenario.

All in all a good though long weekend. Nine stages + some extra. Me and my friend saw shakedown, Pirelli shoot out and service park on Thursday; Jukojärvi 1, Palsankylä 1 and Mökkiperä 2 on Friday; Leustu 1, Surkee 1, Himos 2 and Kavala on Saturday and Myhinpää 1 & 2 on Sunday.

Only Myhinpää wasn't as good as we hoped, but that was perhaps mainly for the fact we didn't know any of the stage beforehand and didn't know any good points, and also the road for parking was damn packed giving us a more than 4-kilometre walk on the 4th morning.... In that sense also giving up on Sunday and driving those kilometres on Thursday evening would benefit the rally, I think. On Sunday we could collect our bones, lick our sores and just enjoy the feeling what we've just enjoyed.

Also Joonas Lindroos' dropping out of Pirelli shootout was a big dissappointment (well, he went off). It was nice to see how he drove to the victory on Vetomies group F support competition and setting faster times on his first rally in 2WD Golf than this year's Pirelli drivers in their sparkling EVO X's and JWRC drivers, for example on Kavala stage he would've been 17th fastest overall.

[A.F.F.]

All in all a good though long weekend. Nine stages + some extra. Me and my friend saw shakedown, Pirelli shoot out and service park on Thursday; Jukojärvi 1, Palsankylä 1 and Mökkiperä 2 on Friday; Leustu 1, Surkee 1, Himos 2 and Kavala on Saturday and Myhinpää 1 & 2 on Sunday.


Our program for the weekend was following: Fri we went SS2 Jukojärvi, SS5 Palsankylä and SS8 Mökkiperä. Sat we went SS13 Surkee, SS15 Himos and SS18 Kavala. Sunday we watched SS20 Hannula.

I didn't see Novikov but one time and that was at friday morning In Jukojärvi stage where he nursed the broken car. So I didn't get that spectacular element either :)

[Tomi]

Also Joonas Lindroos' dropping out of Pirelli shootout was a big dissappointment (well, he went off). It was nice to see how he drove to the victory on Vetomies group F support competition and setting faster times on his first rally in 2WD Golf than this year's Pirelli drivers in their sparkling EVO X's and JWRC drivers, for example on Kavala stage he would've been 17th fastest overall.

about 6-7 years ago here on rallyforum was a topic, something like "future top rallydrivers" or something like that, Joonas was then my favorite and still is, 1 Pirelli shootout means nothing, it can easily mean a delay in a carreer, that crap the Pirelli cars are.

[Xsara Fan]

Neste Rally gallery: http://www.almrally.ru/multimedia?g2_itemId=11263&g2_page=6

[ProRally]

Neste Rally gallery: http://www.almrally.ru/multimedia?g2_itemId=11263&g2_page=6

Great pictures, bit of everything.... nice atmosphere views

[Rallyper]

nice performance by Rautenbach....crashing in corners is just too common it takes real skill to crash on a straight line...

Well he didnt crash on a straight, doing 130 kmh over a crest and then a long 6 right coming out in the loose gravel, which he did, sliding 50 meters sideways, needs a very competent driver. He obvoiusly couldnt manage that and I doubt everyone in the WRC would have done it too.

We had a great weekend in Finland aswell as you guys! Doing some recce on wednesday, listening to Ford pressconference just outside Ford tent, doing the shakedown thursday morning, Pirelli shootout (with the heavy crash of Lindholm), then start of Krununperä (800 m) with Raikkönen doing wide and a roll of a Fiesta. Then Jukojärvi 2.
Saturday Leustu 1 and 2 and Kavala with the heavy roll of a Subaru N12 at the place we thought would be a cargraveyard....

On sunday Myhinpää 1 and 2. Not so good stage with everyone concentrated at the village of Myhinpää and not very much sleep in the night because of the partying people around. We saw Conrads car after he crashed. Not so beautiful...

many of you guys were at the same places I rekon...

[Hartusvuori]

many of you guys were at the same places I rekon...

I didn't saw Lindroos' off, but I saw the landing of his last jump. This is mine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUEDnWZFOmg).

I also saw Gross' off in Kavala at the end of the straight some 200 metres further, so we were quite close to each other :-)

I've also followed Joonas' career from the get-go, we are from the same city but we don't know each other personally. He have always got the speed (remember NORF 2004 was it, he was group N 5th on Sunday until flat tyre broke something more fatal), but somehow I've felt he lacks good financial support. In that sense Pirelli would've been good oppurtunity. At least this gave more recognition to his name.

[DonJippo]

Kavala with the heavy roll of a Subaru N12 ... many of you guys were at the same places I rekon...

I thought I heard some swedish in that corner, were you the one wearing orange looking like a norwegian :hmph: ;)

[A.F.F.]

Saturday Leustu 1 and 2 and Kavala with the heavy roll of a Subaru N12 at the place we thought would be a cargraveyard....


:eek:

You were at the same location as DonJippo, Pino and me !!! That Subaru rolled four times.

[jbmarcus21]

I dont know if somebody said it, but Marcus has won Special Stage Sprint Killeri
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/23582.html

Anybody has pictures ?

[Jafry]

Complete gallery from Finland (jumps, harpins, bends, girls, atmosphere, final ceremony...) (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=550&fseason=2009) ;)

[rallyemotions]

Some pics from Finland (more to come on my site later this week) are here:
http://www.rallylv.com/galery/1100

[Markko]

Hello,

From here you can find some of our Neste Oil Rally Finland photos 2009 if interested:

http://www.tangoteam.com

BR,
Tango Team Motorsport

[genre]

one more Neste Rally gallery
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/genre-78/album/74156/
it's in russian but quite simple to understand

[Rallyper]

[quote="Hartusvuori"]I didn't saw Lindroos' off, but I saw the landing of his last jump. This is mine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUEDnWZFOmg).

We were standing at the top of the crest just maybe 15 meters away from you then. :)

[Rallyper]

I thought I heard some swedish in that corner, were you the one wearing orange looking like a norwegian :hmph: ;)

Nope, I had a black T-shirt and Pirelli cap, and Simon my son weared a blue t-shirt. We werw at first sitting 75 meter after the bend then moving up and sat beside two LAtvian (?) official photgraphers with girlfriends.

[Hartusvuori]

I didn't saw Lindroos' off, but I saw the landing of his last jump. This is mine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUEDnWZFOmg).

We were standing at the top of the crest just maybe 15 meters away from you then. :)

I talked with some Swedes at Pirelli shootout. They had guest passes and golden VIP to Killeri - you perhaps? ;-)

[2nd-driver]

Hello to Finland!
I'm looking for onboard videos, with english pacenotes to listen, to download. Who knows, where to find it.
Greetings from Germany!

[rallyemotions]

Georg Gross/Raigo Molder crashes out on SS18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMtXFKYihbk

[A.F.F.]

Btw... at Jukojärvi stage, the marshalls had a great strategy which would have stopped even J4MIE from challenging them. At the point we spectated, the marshalls and even the ticket sallers we're very attractive and young ladies. They managed to handle all that testosterone on the ditchbanks much better than those gorillas on other stages. :D

I hope you choose the same strategy next year Jukojärvi :up: :)

[Rallyper]

I talked with some Swedes at Pirelli shootout. They had guest passes and golden VIP to Killeri - you perhaps? ;-)

Sorry, again no, such golden cards is only i our dreams.... ;)

No, what I remember I just talked to a guy down the corner where Lindroos had gone off about where Rovanperä did his off in 2003(?). And he told me that it was earlier on the big road.

[Rallyper]

Georg Gross/Raigo Molder crashes out on SS18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMtXFKYihbk

Hello!!! It was us who asked if you should release the off at Kavala. We sat beside you from when Vetomies came. You were two photographers and your ladies. Nice to see this and knowing who the people behind the filming is! :)

Also see above when I relate to you guys.

[jonlint]

If anyone took photos of our car #123 - Silver Opel Astra OPC - we would greatly appreciate if you could share. Email - jonlint (at) gmail (dot) com.

We had a blast and we were absolutely overwhelmed by the welcome, spirit and friendliness of the Finnish people. Thanks!

Kickastra Rally Team
http://www.kickastra.com

[rallyemotions]

Georg Gross/Raigo Molder [roll] in pictures: http://www.rallyemotions.net/gross_norf_09/

[Jafry]

Photos from Finland (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=552&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fautor=) ;)

[ettelbruck]

does anyone know what has happened to the Pirelli Star Drivers?

61Nicos THOMAS (CY)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN419DWITHDRAWN
63Jarkko NIKARA (FIN)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN416MECHANICAL
64Martin SEMERAD (CZE)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN416AMECHANICAL
65Mark TAPPER (NZ)Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution XN415MECHANICAL

only one is still running

Nikara had all possible problems with gearbox, clutch etc and got several Time Control-minutes and then finally had tio give up.

Tapper lost 4-5mins on a ditch, Leustu 2 hairpin right corner. Only VIP-spectators were allowed to go and help :rolleyes: and it took much time and probably broke car even more.

[Petris]

Complete collection of Rally Finland, from Pre-test to Podium ;)


NORF 2009 BP Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team - testit_Day1 (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/8960622_L2uEd) (Mikko)

NORF 2009 BP Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team - testit_Day2 (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/8991346_DWKjS) (Mikko)

NORF 2009 BP Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team - testit_Day4 (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9018197_jfgW2) (Jari-Matti)

Stobart VK M‐Sport Ford Rally Team NORF 2009 test (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9048437_8MH3k)
(Wilson)

Munchi´s Ford World Rally Team NORF 2009 test (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9048382_RBaTD)
(Therman)

Junior WRC and Anton Alen NORF 2009 tests (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9065296_2GeY9)

Petter Sohlberg World Rally Team NORF 2009 tests (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9065257_HjyWK)

Pirelli ShootOut 2009 (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9108838_5FPQU)

NORF 2009 Shakedown (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9099939_wj5tj)

NORF 2009 Stages (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9108979_5uTvv)

NORF 2009 Service Park (http://petris.smugmug.com/gallery/9085505_wBmGY)

[rallyemotions]

A video review by KKSF International and rallyemotions.net:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8xKETgTtw

[Booris]

Pictures from Neste Oil Rally Finland
www.vauhti.kuvat.fi (http://www.vauhti.kuvat.fi)

[Hipo1990]

http://rally3.de/bilder/2009/finnland/index.php photos from rally finland

[darkstar]

our pictures from rallye finnland are now online:

www.rallye-mad.com (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=news)

rallye finnland 09 (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=gallery)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/images/gallery/large/12778.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=gallery)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/images/gallery/large/12782.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=gallery)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/images/gallery/large/12790.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=gallery)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/images/gallery/large/12770.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=gallery)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Could get a pic of Ketomaa?

[darkstar]

our video from rallye finnland is online now:

Rallye Finnland 2009 (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=movies)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/images/movies/130.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=movies)

[jbmarcus21]

pics from Finland here : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/photosfinlande09.htm

[jimakos]

pics from Finland here : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/photosfinlande09.htm

Really nice photos :up:
Thanks mate!!

[noel157]

our video from rallye finnland is online now:

Rallye Finnland 2009 (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=movies)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/images/movies/130.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/index.php?site=movies)

Superb video, deserves an Oscar. Well done.

[MTA]

My pictures http://www.rallyfoto.se/

[jimakos]

My pictures http://www.rallyfoto.se/

Incredible photos MTA.
Thanks a lot :up:

[jbmarcus21]

Nobody has took, Marcus with the Lancer IX ? ... During Special Stage Killeri Sprint NORF09 ... ?

[karo]

Nobody has took, Marcus with the Lancer IX ? ... During Special Stage Killeri Sprint NORF09 ... ?

I have including donuts and all............will try to up load it on youtube this week and I will post it here

[jbmarcus21]

Great !!! Thanks !

[karo]

Hi Guys,

First of all the NORF 2009 was the best rally I every visited. Many thanks to Donjipo for the great help.

I have made one big video.....of 50 minutes but youtube only allows 10 minutes max.

Below you can find some videos..........including crashes and Marcus Gronholm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Qd00akV2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRyfmARl5WQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vI7SC9Lkik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjKdFdjH2Ss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVoOPZH_gE

[SubaruNorway]

You get 1 hour and 500mb on http://www.streetfire.net

[bluuford]

Well. In between rallies it is nice to look a little behind:
1. Kimi´s corner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvvgqWW_z4&NR=1

2. Very nice video with nice jumps etc. To see bigger picture change the resolution of your screen. I think ISC should learn from them how to make videos. I have enjoyed those for many years by now:
http://www.rallyvideos.net/videod/soome_mm_2009.html

[jonlint]

A little late, but highlights of our adventure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_y6BRGZqQ

[Rallyper]

A little late, but highlights of our adventure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_y6BRGZqQ

Nice vid!

Where was that "Caution, big jump" at 3:36. What stage and where on it?

I really have to say that the Astra seems very reliable car. I know the family road car Astra -96 is a very good and strong car and this one too.

[gloomyDAY]

A little late, but highlights of our adventure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_y6BRGZqQThis is awesome! Where are you guys from?

This is my favorite part of the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_y6BRGZqQ#t=3m29s) :laugh:

[jonlint]

Nice vid!

Where was that "Caution, big jump" at 3:36. What stage and where on it?

I really have to say that the Astra seems very reliable car. I know the family road car Astra -96 is a very good and strong car and this one too.

That was the famous (or infamous) Urria jump SS17. We jumped very long and landed hard, but the car took it well. You are right - we love Astras - they are reliable, Opel make good engines and they are tough cars.

Here's outside footage of the jump - unfortunately he stopped filming just before we flew!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwhf8cidBDg

You can compare the incar with the outside video and see how far we jumped.

[jonlint]

This is awesome! Where are you guys from?

This is my favorite part of the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_y6BRGZqQ#t=3m29s) :laugh:

We are from Barbados. You can check out our website at http://www.kickastra.com

[jonlint]

Complete stage onboards:

SS1 - Killeri:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfx4lJq-ynU

SS4 - Mokkipera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lndtPqTTlKA
(Same stage as the Richard Burns incar in the 206 WRC from 2001 WRC DVD)

Enjoy!

[jonlint]

One more - SS5 Palsankylä:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ5szeNCKD0

[Tomi]

We are from Barbados. You can check out our website at http://www.kickastra.com

i guess it was a nice adventure, one not easy forget :) , are you coming this year again with bigger attack?