Sarah "Fredo" Palin: "I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart!"

[SportscarBruce]

The Republican power base like their candidates and voters as dumb as possible, they're easier to lead around.

[Roamy]

Holy Sh!t - Has anyone seen the ass on Hilary lately? No wonder Obama doesn't take her with. The plane can't make weight and balance.

Oink Oink

PS. Bill is going on a fact finding mission with Sandford!!

[steve_spackman]

The Republican power base like their candidates and voters as dumb as possible, they're easier to lead around.

Yes i have to agree with you there!

[steve_spackman]

Palin in 2012! Here we go! :D

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/d/S/2/fey-palin-2012.jpg



http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015810433?Romney%20Is%20Top%20Republican%20Choice %20For%202012,%20Latest%20Gallup%20Says


If Sarah Palin wins in 2012, the world is going to be a very dangerous place.

She will get to see her Prophecy fulfilled..the end of the world!!!

[anthonyvop]

The Republican power base like their candidates and voters as dumb as possible, they're easier to lead around.
Have you seen the people who voted for Obama? If you have you would never had made that statement.

[Tazio]

Have you seen the people who voted for Obama? If you have you would never had made that statement.

I can't say that I've seen every single one.
However unlike you I don't have the ability to divine someone’s thought process by looking at a picture of them.
If I had a suspicious nature I would think you are being a little close minded or prejudice. :confused:

[steve_spackman]

The Republican power base like their candidates and voters as dumb as possible, they're easier to lead around.

The Republicans say the health care plan is too confusing and too convoluted...but these are the same people who say they can make sense out of a Sarah Palin speech.

[BDunnell]

I can't say that I've seen every single one.
However unlike you I don't have the ability to divine someone’s thought process by looking at a picture of them.
If I had a suspicious nature I would think you are being a little close minded or prejudice. :confused:

Or 'just being himself'.

[Jag_Warrior]

:wave:

She's Gone
Oh I, Oh I
Better learn how to face it
She's Gone
Oh I,
Oh I'd pay the devil to replace her
She's Gone
What went wrong?
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[anthonyvop]

A warning to liberals......Sarah Palin is now a Private citizen.




Be afraid.......be very afraid.

[Mark in Oshawa]

All I know is if Sarah Palin ticks off some of the people I have the least time for, she cant be all bad...if even if she strikes me as a bit naive....

[Roamy]

A warning to liberals......Sarah Palin is now a Private citizen.




Be afraid.......be very afraid.

And I am very happy - This should be great !!!

[gloomyDAY]

A warning to liberals......Sarah Palin is now a Private citizen.




Be afraid.......be very afraid.Afraid? More like ecstatic!

I can't wait to see her in Brazzers.

[leopard]

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Sarah is starting to look a bit like Skelator! :uhoh:



It might be only picture while she is not at best or taken from wrong angle, she's fine, don't be harsh mate..

[Jag_Warrior]

Afraid? More like ecstatic!

I can't wait to see her in Brazzers.

Ah, they'd book her for shoots and then she wouldn't show up.

"Pitbull in lipstick", my azz. I've seen meaner poodles than her. Bark & run, bark & run... :rolleyes:

[anthonyvop]

Ah, they'd book her for shoots and then she wouldn't show up.

"Pitbull in lipstick", my azz. I've seen meaner poodles than her. Bark & run, bark & run... :rolleyes:
False bravado is cute.

[Jag_Warrior]

False bravado is cute.

Yep, it'll get you on the ticket as a Vice Presidential candidate, when you can't even handle being the governor of some podunk state.

She's Gone
Oh I, Oh I
Better learn how to face it
She's Gone
Oh I,
Oh I'd pay the devil to replace her
She's Gone
What went wrong?

[Mark in Oshawa]

Jag...I am sure the people of Alaska don't appreciate you calling their state Podunk. It has two senators and a governor, just like yours....and it does more to contribute wealth to the US of A than most of the country.

[Roamy]

I think a major lawsuit against Letterman and CBS could be arriving shortly.
Then I think there could be much heat coming on the press in the very near future.

Oh and BTW good time to purchase a handgun - we will be packing for quite awhile!!

[Easy Drifter]

Love her or hate her she is doing a pretty darn good job of keeping her name in front of the public.
Far higher visiibility than any other Republican.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Love her or hate her she is doing a pretty darn good job of keeping her name in front of the public.
Far higher visiibility than any other Republican.

Drifter, it doesn't do anyone any good just to keep a name out there. She has to have the intellectual goods to stand up for a conservative stance. She hasn't proven that and I don't think CAN do it. The problem with the Republicans or right wing politicians in general is the smartest ones have a charisma deficiency, and Sarah and some of the others are great at getting attention, but are not the really sharp thinkers. They are reactionaries and people that instinctively are right of center, but never really can get in the debate and move people's opinions in a positive way with their arguments.

A right of center poltician in America cannot have any flaws because the press will pick at him/her until they find it. We have watched Democrats with LARGE skeltons in their closets skate right through controversay but Republicans cant do it. Unfortunately, charsima usually seems to bring the odd skeleton or two, so the Republicans have to be more adept of making sense to the common voter. Either that, or just wait until the voters get tired of whomever the current guys are and vote them out. With a two party system, you are always the next best alternative.....I hope like hell that isn't Palin's strategy.

I find her just frustrating. She has the basic principles of what I would like, but she lacks the steel and clever debating skills on her feet that I would want to see in a politician from the right. She has tho ticked off some people I really have no time for so she cant be all bad as I said.

I just think the GOP voters made a mistake in not putting Mitt Romney on the ticket over McCain. Palin would still be an unknown governor in Alaska if that had happened. I didn't see anyone stopping the Obama train after 8 years of the Bushies, but what McCain did in his campaign was just nonsense.....

[Jag_Warrior]

Love her or hate her she is doing a pretty darn good job of keeping her name in front of the public.

True. But then again, so do Paris Hilton and the Kardashian sisters.


Far higher visiibility than any other Republican.

Again, true. She is probably the most well known Republican right now, this side of Rush Limbaugh. But she is also the most polarizing. In the last Pew Research poll I read, Romney had a 40% favorable rating and a 28% unfavorable rating - 32% undecided (+12% net positive). Palin had a 45% favorable rating and 44% unfavorable rating - 11% undecided (+1% net positive).

The people who like Palin continue to like her. And the people who don't like Palin continue to dislike her. Unlike with most politicians, most people seem to have their minds made up about her, one way or the other. And she does speak to a certain wing of the GOP, what I think is still the most powerful wing: the Evangelical, social conservatives. But from what I've read, even the (supposed) fiscal conservatives, like those in the Club for Growth, haven't given Palin glowing endorsements. Her cutsey soundbites don't indicate that she really speaks the same language as they do. The CfG types shouldn't have as much of a problem with Romney being a Mormon as the rural Evangelicals would. And the rural Evangelicals shouldn't have as much of a problem with Palin's lack of knowledge on broad economic issues as the CfG types would.

But still, it'll be interesting to see what she does with her current pop culture fame.

[Roamy]

I want to see her deball David Letterman straight away !! She will start making a mark and it will be interesting to see the line forming! There is a lot of pissed off money out there. The long legged Mac Daddy is starting to fail already - By the next election Romney will be via for VP

[Jag_Warrior]

Offered without comment...

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[BDunnell]

The description 'trite ramble' is not one I have ever used for anything before, but seems to sum up the two minutes I was able to give that quite adequately.

[Mark in Oshawa]

The description 'trite ramble' is not one I have ever used for anything before, but seems to sum up the two minutes I was able to give that quite adequately.

You surely couldn't find anything to like in that? See, I am not a Palin fan, but she has over time stumbled on some hard truth's and she is pretty clear that she holds the media in disdain, and I for one don't really blame her. They are far more willing to expose her foibles and those of her daughter, while they ignored people like a Democratic Senator running for President who just happened to be carrying on an affair completely with love child while his wife has cancer. They chose to ignore that story, yet couldn't jump on Bristol Palin getting knocked up fast enough. It is the double standard that whole Palin mess has exposed for many skeptics like myself.

I may not think much of her intellect, but her value system isn't one I object to as long as she leaves me alone. Then again, that is the point. The US has freedom of religion, not freedom FROM religion. As long as the right wing bible thumpers understand where the line is drawn, and the secular nut jobs who hate Palin get that, for the most part normal people get along fine....

[BDunnell]

You surely couldn't find anything to like in that?

No. The construction of the speech is appalling — as I said, I didn't watch all of it, but in the bit I did see she rambles her way through a range of badly connected, superficial remarks. What's to like?


...she has over time stumbled on some hard truth's and she is pretty clear that she holds the media in disdain, and I for one don't really blame her.

My main objection now is the idea that she did anything other than bring a lot of the humour and ridicule — leaving aside the vitriol — directed at her on herself. As I've said several times before, there is no-one else to blame for that but herself, and she is very unintentionally amusing. This is why many outsiders of varying political hues found it, and find it, totally amazing that she should have risen to such prominence. For what it's worth, no-one in the UK would ever take Joe Biden seriously as a candidate after his Neil Kinnock plagiarism gaffe, but there is far less humour, and thus serious ridicule, potential in him.

[steve_spackman]

She aint the sharpest knife in the draw is she...

[Mark in Oshawa]

No. The construction of the speech is appalling — as I said, I didn't watch all of it, but in the bit I did see she rambles her way through a range of badly connected, superficial remarks. What's to like?



My main objection now is the idea that she did anything other than bring a lot of the humour and ridicule — leaving aside the vitriol — directed at her on herself. As I've said several times before, there is no-one else to blame for that but herself, and she is very unintentionally amusing. This is why many outsiders of varying political hues found it, and find it, totally amazing that she should have risen to such prominence. For what it's worth, no-one in the UK would ever take Joe Biden seriously as a candidate after his Neil Kinnock plagiarism gaffe, but there is far less humour, and thus serious ridicule, potential in him.

Wont disagree with some of the misuse and awkwardness in her speech but THAT is precisely what a lot of people in North America are looking for in politicians. Why Palin scares a lot of elites is she is John Q Public at heart and her speech feeds that. I want someone who can speak plain English, but I don't think Palin gets the complexities of some of the issues. That said, I don't think she is as dumb as people would believe.

As for Biden, if he was a Republican the press would have beaten the plagiarism to death and if you don't think he is funny, find the video of him telling the Paragplegic Democrat at a Campaign rally to stand up. Biden has his foot so much in his mouth I am surpised he hasn't a taste for eating leather. He is full of comic potential.

[BDunnell]

Wont disagree with some of the misuse and awkwardness in her speech but THAT is precisely what a lot of people in North America are looking for in politicians. Why Palin scares a lot of elites is she is John Q Public at heart and her speech feeds that.

I'm afraid I think one is right to be scared about that, whatever one's political views. I for one would hope that politics could do better than offering candidates that are just like most people one encounters, many of whom are not, let's face it, people who should be placed in charge of anything of any size or importance.

[Mark in Oshawa]

I'm afraid I think one is right to be scared about that, whatever one's political views. I for one would hope that politics could do better than offering candidates that are just like most people one encounters, many of whom are not, let's face it, people who should be placed in charge of anything of any size or importance.

Ben...now you sound like an Elitist. Listen, I like you want our leaders to be smarter than the average bear, but the problem is some really smart people have driven the collective world into a ditch of late. Common men/women have gone on to be great leaders. Whatever you might think of Margaret Thatcher ( probably not good ), she was a pretty effective leader and much of what she did has helped the UK, whether you want to admit that or not. Just like Tony Blair has done. Both had the common touch and both were able to get elected. US politics is littered with people who had the common touch and were able to use plain speech to be elected. It is the reason Bill Clinton was so electable, and it is why a supposed dunce like Dubya was able to be elected against such "Brilliant" men as Gore and Kerry. coming off as a conceited elitist is a death wish in most political realms.

I want smart leaders whether they be from the left or right, but they must be able to commuinicate to the masses in a manner that works. For what Obama is to the elitists in the US, he still was able to come across as a guy the average American could relate to. I think it was all whitewash, but I admire his way of using media ( a friendly media to be sure ) and his ability to dumb down and use his language.

Palin has the dumbing down of big ideas, we just don't always think she grasps the big concepts. That said, I will say it again until it hurts, that she isn't as dumb as her detractors made her out to be. If she was, she never would have gotten to that post in the first place. It is said the political landscape of Alaska is littered with the people from both parties that underestimated this woman.

[BDunnell]

Ben...now you sound like an Elitist.

To some extent, I am, but I believe it is easily possible for prospective politicians to strike a better balance between being popular (populist?) and intellectual than Sarah Palin manages. Very easily, in fact.

[Mark in Oshawa]

To some extent, I am, but I believe it is easily possible for prospective politicians to strike a better balance between being popular (populist?) and intellectual than Sarah Palin manages. Very easily, in fact.

True enough Ben, but as I said before, A lot of people seem themselves in Sarah, and they can look past her awkward phrasing of speeches. She is one of them at heart, and they get that.

A lot of smart politicians forget that the common man's issues have to be looked at and respected if there is to be a true democracy, rather than the often top down "we know what is best for you" elitist crap we often get from government. Sarah Palin by being so plain is a threat to the elitists because she is turning on an electorate that they cannot reach. She didn't get McCain elected, but I suspect his campaign would have been pounded worse if she wasn't energizing the evangelicals and ordinary people who saw McCain as a fence straddling politician.

Obama energized his base and left of center voters by appealing to them while keeping enough touchstones of the common man to reach the undecided. I don't think anyone could have saved the GOP after 8 years of Dubya, Americans wanted a change of pace, but Sarah's appeal kept the loss I think from being a total pounding.....

[TheFamousEccles]

Offered without comment...

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Watch the above, then watch this

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/29/william-shatner-reads-sarah-palins-farewell-speech/

William Shatner for Alaskan Govenor! (apologies if this is a repost, I could'nt be bothered reading the entire thread to see if it had made an appearance :) )

[janvanvurpa]

Watch the above, then watch this

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/29/william-shatner-reads-sarah-palins-farewell-speech/

William Shatner for Alaskan Govenor! (apologies if this is a repost, I could'nt be bothered reading the entire thread to see if it had made an appearance :) )

Thank you, excellent example of the reasons why doping tests for politicials should be instituted on a weekly basis.
Malheuresment, the second link was not working but I found it here:
http://blog.mlive.com/talkingpolitics/2009/07/shatners_take_on_palin_speech.htm

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You betcha kiddo.

[TheFamousEccles]

Watch the above, then watch this

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/29/william-shatner-reads-sarah-palins-farewell-speech/

William Shatner for Alaskan Govenor! (apologies if this is a repost, I could'nt be bothered reading the entire thread to see if it had made an appearance :) )


Sorry, the vid has been taken down :( - take my word for it, it was piss funny.

[Jag_Warrior]

Sorry, the vid has been taken down :( - take my word for it, it was piss funny.

Nice find. I was able to locate it on YouTube. And whether someone is a fan of Sarah's or not, you're right, this is funny as hell.

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