Ireland 2009

[darkstar]

good morning! ss 1 is about to start right now :D

[Rally Hokkaido]

Hmm, SS1 start time was 0813 hrs (3mins ago?)

[darkstar]

the stage is running guys, hirvonen 0.4 sec. fatser on first split...

[John V]

Hi boys (and girls?), the question is, if this race will be much boring or bit exciting compare to last season view, it means Seb will again dominate the others or Atko will be able to keep the pace in similar car for example. What do you guess?

[garais22]

the stage is running guys, hirvonen 0.4 sec. fatser on first split...

Now it is -6.5 seconds :)

[MartijnS]

6.2 sec faster at third split. :)

[darkstar]

Now it is -6.5 seconds :)

yessssss :D i think this season hirvonen will be closer to seb, and i also think ogier and atkinson will do some good results. i guess ogier will do top5 result, atkinson might be able to do that too.

[Viking]

Latvala running on the snowtyre !?!?

[jiipee64]

J-M is flying....

[garais22]

Ford is flying.. :eek:
Latvala -18.6 !!!!

[DonJippo]

Latvala -18,6 secs at split 3 to Loeb!

[MartijnS]

Wow Latvala! What did he have for breakfast :D

[darkstar]

Latvala -18,6 secs at split 3 to Loeb!

:eek: :eek: :eek: does it have anything to do with tyrechoise or something?


almost 30 seconds now!!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Latvala running on the snowtyre !?!?

Don't know what he is on, but i want some -18.6 s at 3rd split!!

[garais22]

Wow Latvala! What did he have for breakfast :D
:D :D :D

[jiipee64]

J-M is trying to get to the orbit...

[paddocknews]

JML on snowtire

[Finni]

No split for Atkinson, worrying. Latvala's pace, scary.

Loeb is obviously not on the right tyres, but Latvala's pace is scarey in any case. Hopefully he keeps it together.

[MartijnS]

-29.3 :d

[Rally Hokkaido]

:eek: :eek: :eek: does it have anything to do with tyrechoise or something?


almost 30 seconds now!!!


yes, seb was very cautious, said he was aquaplaning the whole stage because of stupid tyre regs - seems only latvala is on the snow tyres

[muscrae]

Loeb is obviously not on the right tyres,

Normally, it's virtually impossible for Loeb to do that, but I'm shocked :eek:

[bluuford]

"Stupid stage. Out of regulations. Impossible to drive, I don't want to take any risk."

I am fed of that guy.. nothing new from his mouth:-P

[Brother John]

Now that Petter is not present we have a new driver who nags on the finnish.
His name is LOEB. :D :p

[AndyRAC]

Wilson.......



...no comment needed.

[darkstar]

42 seconds quicker then loeb...wow! thats a big surprise!

[Viking]

Atko not fast, I guess the Subaru was a good car :D

[darkstar]

Atko not fast, I guess the Subaru was a good car :D

but also not quite slow, but solberg is fast too, and aava seems to be on a good run too.

[miksu]

Wow Latvala! What did he have for breakfast :D

haha, maybe something that wasntn't good for his stomach ;)

[garais22]

Aava is flying too :)

[Rally Hokkaido]

aava 2nd best time (+20s), tyres?
henning and matt wilson on the snow tyres

edit: yes, aava on the snow tyres

[MartijnS]

Ogier very slow.

[Viking]

I think we can say Citroen did not get this one right!

[darkstar]

I think we can say Citroen did not get this one right!

defenetly, ogier is pretty disapointing yet...

[bluuford]

Irish guys have done real Monte surprise. I don't know what they are complaining.. which is better to be on black ice with slick or with soft tarmac tires on very wet tarmac.

[Brother John]

It firstly was the Tyres, then it was snow, now the water on the road, please Loeb stay home instead of annoying the rally fans. Go to Le Mans, have fun with Petter over there, we don´t need this kind of drivers anymore in Rally. :rolleyes:

[darkstar]

It firstly was the Tyres, then it was snow, now the water on the road, please Loeb stay home instead of annoying the rally fans. Go to Le Mans, have fun with Petter over there, we don´t need this kind of drivers anymore in Rally. :rolleyes:

hehehe, i agree :D

[Xsara Fan]

"Monte Ireland Rally"....

[Finni]

Was Sordo on different ones than Loeb? It seems that Loeb, Atkinson and Ogier didn't got it in that stage. Reutenbach on the contrary, is quick to his relative level. He possibly have same tyre with Ford drivers.

If someone know info about tyre choisec I am greatful to receive.

[DonJippo]

Say what... did anyone get what Bolan was saying on the radio? :p

[RS]

Was Sordo on different ones than Loeb? It seems that Loeb, Atkinson and Ogier didn't got it in that stage. Reutenbach on the contrary, is quick to his relative level. He possibly have same tyre with Ford drivers.

If someone know info about tyre choisec I am greatful to receive.

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/

has tyres choices. You are right, Rautenbach on winters.

[Roy]

defenetly, ogier is pretty disapointing yet...

If he is the winner of first IRC rally. IRC is nothing.

[bluuford]

I have always thought that Ogier is very good on gravel and snow and bit average on tarmac. He got most of his advantage in Monte while driving on pure snow.

[Priorat]

Will these snow tyres last for two more stages?

[Finni]

At least Loeb has to put some catching effort. That could be entertaining..

[bluuford]

Say what... did anyone get what Bolan was saying on the radio? :p

Not a word!

[AndyRAC]

I have always thought that Ogier is very good on gravel and snow and bit average on tarmac. He got most of his advantage in Monte while driving on pure snow.

I don't think he set one fastest time on the Monte - he just didn't make any mistakes, and was left in the lead.

[bluuford]

Will these snow tyres last for two more stages?
There is not much heat.. there are a lot of water on the road.. there is no studs. I don't see a problem if the conditions stay the same.

[RS]

If he is the winner of first IRC rally. IRC is nothing.

Do you remember Wales Rally GB?

Ogier drove a very steady rally on Monte, but only won one stage.

[Sturla]

What did they say??

[AndiG]

Can anyone post the times of the first stage, can´t get into WRC page from my company account! Thanks in advance! :)

[kleisj]

Hello all! I wish for a good WRC year and a thrilling championship.http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8399/thumbsup4kk.gif

Surprising the results of 1st SS. Different tyre strategies? What's the weather conditions?

[DonJippo]

Can anyone post the times of the first stage, can´t get into WRC page from my company account! Thanks in advance! :)

Times also here http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=1&filtr=

[bluuford]

I don't think he set one fastest time on the Monte - he just didn't make any mistakes, and was left in the lead.

He won only one stage. The first stage on third day. It was his home road and under very thick snow cover.

[darkstar]

oder hier: http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=388

[MartijnS]

Next stage :)

[Finni]

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/

has tyres choices. You are right, Rautenbach on winters.

According to site there is:

- Gravel tyres! (Loeb reportedly with them)
- Snow tyres (Latvala, Aava, Reutenbach)
- Wet tyres (Hirvonen)
- Rain tyres (H. Solberg)

It's not reported on what tyres Atkinson and Sordo are. I guess Atkinson have same tyres as Loeb but not sure about Sordo, has he wets or gravel ones?

Obviously "rain tyre" and "wet tyre" should be indentified with each other.

[jparker]

If he is the winner of first IRC rally. IRC is nothing.
Could you please hold your fire and be pation. Thank you.

[Viking]

. Jari-Matti LATVALA 12:44.0

2. Urmo AAVA 13:01.6 +17.6

3. Mikko HIRVONEN 13:15.5 +31.5

4. Dani SORDO 13:16.7 +32.7

5. Henning SOLBERG 13:19.9 +35.9

6. Sebastien LOEB 13:26.0 +42.0

7. Gareth MACHALE 13:30.0 +46.0

8. Eamonn BOLAND 13:35.7 +51.7

9. Chris ATKINSON 13:36.5 +52.5

[pucky54]

gravel tyres? no no

[jparker]

I have always thought that Ogier is very good on gravel and snow and bit average on tarmac. He got most of his advantage in Monte while driving on pure snow.
And you got this sophisticated analysis based on only one stage, run with (probably) wrong tyres?

[Viking]

Could you please hold your fire and be pation. Thank you.

IRC is for has been`s and never will bee`s :D

[muscrae]

JM faster in 1st split again...

[MartijnS]

No time for Hirvonen?

[J.Lindstroem]

IRC is for has been`s and never will bee`s :D

Maybe. Why is that the case to you think?

[bluuford]

And you got this sophisticated analysis based on only one stage, run with (probably) wrong tyres?

No! I have followed his career in WRC, JWRC, IRC and have noticed that.

[AndiG]

Gravel tyres are definitely not allowed on tarmac rallies! Only snow tyres here in Ireland because of weather conditions!

[darkstar]

latvala 17 seconds slower now then loeb at stage 2...

[muscrae]

Loeb is back!

[Roy]

Could you please hold your fire and be pation. Thank you.

IRC fan? Citroen fan? LOL mission completed ;)

IN JWRC: holland 2&3 :bounce:

[Finni]

It didn't take long time to see Seb again in lead..boooring..

[bluuford]

Seems that this stage is not so good for those tires.. like monte:-) really.. I am positively surprised by Irish event!

[René]

Maybe Citroen drivers chose of tyres for the following conditions of 2 last stage before service???

[pucky54]

Watch out for McShea. 3rd after SS1

[darkstar]

It didn't take long time to see Seb again in lead..boooring..

:mad: for real...whats going on with latvala, he´s loosing extremely lot of time.

[muscrae]

Maybe Citroen drivers chose of tyres for the following conditions of 2 last stage before service???

possible

[DonJippo]

Two punctures for JML

[darkstar]

2 punctures for latvala...cant believe it, how unlucky can one be :rolleyes:

[modri dirkac]

Proton is flying! :bounce:

[wotaguy]

top 3 thru ss2 loeb 17.6 quickest now in front, its all happening, fantastic opening for mcshea

[Rally Hokkaido]

Watch out for McShea. 3rd after SS1

Wow! I'm trying to remember if an N4 has finished a WRC stage in the top 3 before

[Xsara Fan]

Is it possible to McShea to get 3 time in SS1??????

[muscrae]

Two punctures for JML
woooovv, unlucky as usual...

[Finni]

Rallyradio just jamming :)

[Tom206wrc]

I was so scared when I saw Loeb's time loss on Latvala on SS1...Uffff :D :D

[Sturla]

Driving error agian for JML, not the first time... Maybe he should drive like 98% instead of 110% all the time?

[A.F.F.]

S2000 are boring, S2000 are lame.....

Way to go McShea :up:

[muscrae]

Rallyradio just jamming :)

I can't listen WRR, any general problem? or my stupid pc!!

[Mirek]

Wow! I'm trying to remember if an N4 has finished a WRC stage in the top 3 before

Yes, it is. Gassner won a stage on Monte Carlo few years back (he used good tyres as the only one) and Araújo won SSS in Japan 2007.

[darkstar]

Driving error agian for JML, not the first time... Maybe he should drive like 98% instead of 110% all the time?

as i understood, he had those punctures and then went off, not went off first and then had punctures...or am i wrong?

[Tom206wrc]

It didn't take long time to see Seb again in lead..boooring..




Not more boring than if it was a Finn who dominated the race :rolleyes:

[Finni]

Hah, Ava will lead after this stage.

Atkinson painfully slow. Not easy place for debut in such conditions.

[DonJippo]

I can't listen WRR, any general problem? or my stupid pc!!

Works ok for me.

[RS]

IRC is for has been`s and never will bee`s :D

The same guys saying this after one stage of Rally Ireland are probably the same guys saying that S2000 is not fast enough for WRC, and a Proton is third after SS1. These conditions are not realistic barometers for comparing anything.

[FAlonso]

Wow! I'm trying to remember if an N4 has finished a WRC stage in the top 3 before


Armindo Araujo won a SS stage overall in Rally Japan 07. But this is a great time by McShea on a proper, tricky stage. Very well done!

[DonJippo]

Go Urmo go ! :D

[A.F.F.]

Has Aava led a rally before? Great job so far.

[Viking]

I can't listen WRR, any general problem? or my stupid pc!!

Maybe your second alternative ;)

[Finni]

Not more boring than if it was a Finn who dominated the race :rolleyes:

You don't want change? You like that things happen always in the same way?

U french ;)

[Daniel]

The same guys saying this after one stage of Rally Ireland are probably the same guys saying that S2000 is not fast enough for WRC, and a Proton is third after SS1. These conditions are not realistic barometers for comparing anything.
You're wasting your time on these fools Ron :)

[Audimadgeoff]

Any idea where I can get live stage timings? WRC.com is messing me around... just for a change!

[bluuford]

Has Aava led a rally before? Great job so far.

No! Not WRC rally I think

[Daniel]

Any idea where I can get live stage timings? WRC.com is messing me around... just for a change!
Just put Eurosport on and watch it live. Oh wait that was the IRC...... :p

[Eyvind]

Fantastic Urmo!!! GO !! :)

[Audimadgeoff]

Just put Eurosport on and watch it live. Oh wait that was the IRC...... :p :D class!!!

[modri dirkac]

Sebastien Ogier is only tired after the Monte or he missed the morning coffee? :rolleyes:

[Sturla]

The two biggest suprices this morning I think is Aava og Henning. Extremely good driving by Aava, maybe the C4 isn`t that good afterall? Seems like Aava is even faster in a focus, but sure it`s to early to say...

[Viking]

The same guys saying this after one stage of Rally Ireland are probably the same guys saying that S2000 is not fast enough for WRC, and a Proton is third after SS1. These conditions are not realistic barometers for comparing anything.

Here you go: S2000 is not fast enough for WRC! :D

[jiipee64]

1 or 2 sparetyres??

J-M needs 2 ??

[A.F.F.]

Latvala gambled with tyre choise and it didn't pay off. You live, you learn.

[bluuford]

1 or 2 sparetyres??

J-M needs 2 ??

It was reported that he has two spares.

[DonJippo]

1 or 2 sparetyres??

J-M needs 2 ??

He has two sparetyres in the car.

[Xsara Fan]

The two biggest suprices this morning I think is Aava og Henning. Extremely good driving by Aava, maybe the C4 isn`t that good afterall? Seems like Aava is even faster in a focus, but sure it`s to early to say...

At SS2 the biggest surprise is Al Qassimi.

[pucky54]

Latvala almost 1 min in front after SS1, almost lost 2 mins on SS2= 1 min behind, makes equal times after SS3 :D

[muscrae]

At SS2 the biggest surprise is Al Qassimi.

for sure...

[cali]

The two biggest suprices this morning I think is Aava og Henning. Extremely good driving by Aava, maybe the C4 isn`t that good afterall? Seems like Aava is even faster in a focus, but sure it`s to early to say...

Aava said before the rally that Focus is actually more comfortable to drive, it handles well etc. So maybe Focus suits him better than C4?

[darkstar]

were the punctures caused by wrong tyres? i mean did they dissolve? ss3 stars in 2 minutes...

[Mihai]

At SS2 the biggest surprise is Al Qassimi.

Wait until the Proton finishes the stage. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif

[A.F.F.]

were the punctures caused by wrong tyres? i mean did they dissolve? ss3 stars in 2 minutes...

My guess is they just melted under. Too soft for Latvala's driving. But this is just my guess.

[Viking]

Latvala gambled with tyre choise and it didn't pay off. You live, you learn.

Latvala style: Now then, where is the limit? Oops there it was!!!!

[Mihai]

]Yes, it is. Gassner won a stage on Monte Carlo few years back (he used good tyres as the only one) and Araújo won SSS in Japan 2007.

Look no further than the 2008 Rally Japan. A virtually unknown South-Korean won the Sapporo SSS in a Group N Mitsu Evo IX.

[bluuford]

Prokop has listen Citroen when choosing tires?

[darkstar]

Wait until the Proton finishes the stage. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif

:D :D


My guess is they just melted under. Too soft for Latvala's driving. But this is just my guess.

if thats true, the other 2 tyres wont last the 30km stage...lets see how its going :) i hope your guess is wrong :(

[jens]

Quite amazing Ford debut for Urmo!! :D

[A.F.F.]

if thats true, the other 2 tyres wont last the 30km stage...lets see how its going :) i hope your guess is wrong :(


I believe Latvala has changed a bit of his driving now that he is on spares already. But like first stage showed, it was worth of risk to try.

[jparker]

Aava said before the rally that Focus is actually more comfortable to drive, it handles well etc. So maybe Focus suits him better than C4?

Too bad he has to let JML and Hirvonen in front later on.

[Finni]

Loeb is crushing Hirvonen :)

[DonJippo]

Too bad he has to let JML and Hirvonen in front later on.

Don't be stupid, if he is about the win the event noway he will be ordered to let others to pass him.

[Finni]

Too bad he has to let JML and Hirvonen in front later on.

It probably doesn't demand any team-orders if the whole race is not driven with stud-tyres.

[darkstar]

Too bad he has to let JML and Hirvonen in front later on.

do you realye think that? sounds like a bad joke...its the first rallye of the year, wilson would never do that. the only time that happened was when duval let pass hirvonen because ford was so desperate trying to win the manufacturers championchip!

think back to rallye germany for example, they where batteling hard for 3. place!

[Tom206wrc]

The two biggest suprices this morning I think is Aava og Henning. Extremely good driving by Aava, maybe the C4 isn`t that good afterall? Seems like Aava is even faster in a focus, but sure it`s to early to say...



Too much tricky conditions to judge if the Citroën is less good than the Ford or the opposite :p :

Like in Monte-Carlo... ;)

[A.F.F.]

Lots and lots of "Macs" on stage :D

But when can we expect McShea finishing the stage?

[darkstar]

no splits for latvala?

[FAlonso]

McShea 8th. Another great time.

[pucky54]

There he is 8th fastest through SS2, 5th overall

[Tom206wrc]

Wait until the Proton finishes the stage. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif



Its Renault engine won't last the distance :p :

[Mirek]

McShea 8th with +25 seconds, 6th overal ;)

PS Tom, I think the car has Cmapro CPS engine, not Renault (was used in previous Satria model).

[jparker]

Don't be stupid, if he is about the win the event noway he will be ordered to let others to pass him.
What about if at the end he's 1st and JML and Hirvonen 2nd and 3rd, without danger from the rest?

[DonJippo]

no splits for latvala?

Not started the stage yet, trying to fix the car.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Look no further than the 2008 Rally Japan. A virtually unknown South-Korean won the Sapporo SSS in a Group N Mitsu Evo IX.
Ok, I'll change my question: when was the last time a N4 car was running in 3rd place in an WRC event.
edit: now Nial is in 5th

[Gard]

Too bad he has to let JML and Hirvonen in front later on.

Perhaps not on the first rally of the year. And I guess MW want to se who's who. JML can be replaced by the other ones. Except Henning, if he #1 for Stobart M2

[Xsara Fan]

Wait until the Proton finishes the stage. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif

OK. Now Proton finished? Again: at SS2 the biggest surprise is Al Qassimi. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Latvala on SS3 :confused:



Edit: DonJippo gave the answer

[pucky54]

Where's Latvala on SS3 :confused:
Not started

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb didn't finish stage ???? :eek:

[darkstar]

Not started the stage yet, trying to fix the car.

ok, so the rallye is finnished for him...so, same as everytime, loeb in font of hirvonen :rolleyes:

aava is fast again! fastest yet!

[DonJippo]

What about if at the end he's 1st and JML and Hirvonen 2nd and 3rd, without danger from the rest?

This point of the season don't see it happening even in that scenario.

[Daniel]

Don't be stupid, if he is about the win the event noway he will be ordered to let others to pass him.

Rather. I somehow doubt Urmo would give a crap about team orders on the first rally of the season and with his first win in sight.....

[jens]

This point of the season don't see it happening even in that scenario.

Even if we let the drivers aside, Ford A-team would like to get the maximum manufacturers' points (18) for the fight with Citroen instead of getting 14 and giving 10 to Stobart.

[J4MIE]

News on wrc.com says Latvala out for the day, damage to steering and drivesghaft after pucntures.

When will he learn????? :s

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=3719&desc=SS2:%20Aava%20moves%20into%20the%20lead

[A.F.F.]

Rather. I somehow doubt Urmo would give a crap about team orders on the first rally of the season and with his first win in sight.....

Don't say... Wilson might offer him a five-year plan. That's very tempting....

[darkstar]

When will he learn????? :s

its a shame, he could almost have done slowly and manag his lead with 42 seconds, and now he´s out...still cant believe it.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Chris loosing a lot of time in SS3 - car problem?

edit: he forgot to close the bonnet properly and it came open and broke the windscreen

[Buzz Lightyear]

I sugguest...Aava to replace Latvala?

[miksu]

well, i thought it would be interesting after the first stage, loeb so much behind and so on... that we maybe we might see some interesting fight for the first place. of course things can still change, but i think not :(

[A.F.F.]

Splits are jammed?

[A.F.F.]

Splits are jammed?

No, just awfully slow.

[jens]

well, i thought it would be interesting after the first stage, loeb so much behind and so on... that we maybe we might see some interesting fight for the first place. of course things can still change, but i think not :(

Well, the fight still exists with a guy nobody expected to fight for such position! :D

[Daniel]

Don't say... Wilson might offer him a five-year plan. That's very tempting....

Not one step backwards comrade Urmo!

[darkstar]

Well, the fight still exists with a guy nobody expected to fight for such position! :D

thats true...maybe it would realye be better replacing latvala with aava in future...

[bluuford]

It seems that Ogier took the same Peugeot from Monte.. I told you that Citroen does not have enough cars :-P

[miksu]

thats true...maybe it would realye be better replacing latvala with aava in future...

Better Hirvonen, he's just too boring. At least JM brings some excitement, when you have to wonder if he stays on the road. Next year (i hope) there will be more teams so people who get kicked out will probably get places to drive :P

[Tom206wrc]

It seems that Ogier took the same Peugeot from Monte.. I told you that Citroen does not have enough cars :-P



I would be annoyed if the case !!! a Proton so far ahead of a 207 S2000 :mark:

[Daniel]

I would be annoyed if the case !!! a Proton so far ahead of a 207 S2000 :mark:
Ummm isn't Ogier driving a C4 WRC?

[Gard]

I would be annoyed if the case !!! a Proton so far ahead of a 207 S2000 :mark:
Get used to it :D

[Viking]

Henning said before this rally “I just drive carefully, and hopes nobody else does it” :)

[modri dirkac]

I would be annoyed if the case !!! a Proton so far ahead of a 207 S2000 :mark:
Wouldn't be nice, something new at least ... :eek: :)

[Tom206wrc]

Who would have bet Rautenbach would have been fastest C4 privateer ahead of Ogier and Atkinson??? :eek:

[jens]

Hopefully there is a possibility that this Proton can somehow finish in the points. It would be great to see some other cars in the points besides Fords and Citroens too. :D

[pucky54]

Hopefully there is a possibility that this Proton can somehow finish in the points. It would be great to see some other cars in the points besides Fords and Citroens too. :D
There is the Subaru of Boland, but Proton would be fine too

[Buzz Lightyear]

Better Hirvonen, he's just too boring. At least JM brings some excitement, when you have to wonder if he stays on the road. Next year (i hope) there will be more teams so people who get kicked out will probably get places to drive :P

let him create excitment, but he doesnt have to be the nominated point scorer

[Audimadgeoff]

Who would have bet Rautenbach would have been fastest C4 privateer ahead of Ogier and Atkinson??? :eek: Me! :D but then i am biased! ;)

[muscrae]

Who would have bet Rautenbach would have been fastest C4 privateer ahead of Ogier and Atkinson??? :eek:

virtually noone.

[bluuford]

Ummm isn't Ogier driving a C4 WRC?

Heh! It was a joke. Didn't you noticed :-P at the end of sentence;-)

[J4MIE]

Assume it's still heavy rain on the stages? Still not sure whether I am glad I didn't go or not :p :

[Rally Hokkaido]

Early JWRC leader Burkart had an off, lost about 30s & finished SS3 with front damage

[Viking]

Who is this Alan Ring who is in front of Atko after two stages?

[Daniel]

Heh! It was a joke. Didn't you noticed :-P at the end of sentence;-)

Joke should also have punchlines too :)

[Mirek]

It looks like Prokop starts again very bad as we are used to... Electronics problems since the start of SS1...

[Tom206wrc]

Not a bad start from Yoann Bonato on his Suzuki S1600 :) :)

Where's Kevin Abbring ??? :confused:

[Raini]

Not a bad start from Yoann Bonato on his Suzuki S1600 :) :)

Where's Kevin Abbring ??? :confused:

I thought the same thing...where is this guy who won SD?

[Brother John]

WRC are terrible. :eek:
Loeb and three others must present a world championship. :rolleyes: AMAZING!!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Disappointing for Nial McShea - stopped on stage with possible electrical problems

[tolis]

Mc shea out??????????????

[bluuford]

Weather update:
Friday lunch: light rain
Fridy afternoon: Heavy rain
Friday night: Heavy rain
Saturday morning:Heavy rain turns to light rain
Saturday from lunch to evening - intermediate rain
Sunday morning: dry :-) dry :-) But very big possibility of fog. +2 degrees, possible frost on higher elevations.
And after the rally it goes to - degrees again!

[Mirek]

McShea out, water in electronics :(

[bt52b]

McShea out? Electrics?

[Tom206wrc]

Disappointing for Nial McShea - stopped on stage with possible electrical problems



I knew the Renault outfit of the Proton wouldn't last :mark:

[J4MIE]

Thanks bluuford.

Pity for McShea, but in Ireland you must have a waterproof car ;)

[muscrae]

]McShea out, water in electronics :(

ohhhhh terrible... disappointed...

[Sulland]

Not bad from the Proton !!!

Lessons identified after 3 ss:
Aava impresses
Atko disappoints

WRC is getting thin at the top !

[jens]

So much about the hope of a Proton in the points. :(

[AndyRAC]

Pity, it was probably the best sounding car in the Rally.

[A.F.F.]

I knew the Renault outfit of the Proton wouldn't last :mark:

Or... you hoped Renault outfit of the Proton wouldn't last?

[Viking]

Pity, it was probably the best sounding car in the Rally.

S2000`s are not reliable enough for the wrc :p

[Sulland]

]McShea out, water in electronics :(

But the car showed real potential - Petter might be on to something here !!!

[Sarac330d]

Pity, it was probably the best sounding car in the Rally.

Don`t forget S1600 machines they have best sound in my opinion

[ProRally]

Any news on Abbring ? What happend ?

[Halvis]

Interesting start to the rally, impressive stuff from Aava, I'm also positively surprised by Hennings pace, better than expected, not far behind Sordo - although different tyre choices might be a factor.

Very, very dissapointing from Atko so far.

Agree that the Proton showed potensial, but then the Renault part tok its toll, hehe.

[Roy]

Any news on Abbring ? What happend ?

From dutchforum site:

Electric problems for Abbrings Renault

[ST205GT4]

Disappointing so far from Atkinson. Has he had problems apart from broken windscreen? Poor tyre choice or simply not on the pace?

[Ghostwalker]

i kinda like Aavas comment after stage 3:

. "We made a good choice with the winter tyre, and it looks like Mikko and Sebastien made some small mistakes, so we have an advantage. Now we have to keep on driving. I don’t know how Loeb is going so fast on the slick tyre - he must be crazy."

slicks in a gravel rally? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Strange on czech live-results site Sordo says he has throttle problem and smell from engine on his C4 after SS3... :confused:

[Viking]

i kinda like Aavas comment after stage 3:


slicks in a gravel rally? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ehhh... it is a tarmac rally ;)

[TMorel]

Well not long ago they were claiming he was using gravel tyres on a tarmac rally so it only seems fair he's now using slicks in a gravel rally ;)

[bt52b]

Well not long ago they were claiming he was using gravel tyres on a tarmac rally so it only seems fair he's now using slicks in a gravel rally ;)

I think they (Gravel Voice) were calling the normal wet, a slick, and the Monte Snow & Ice tyre an extreme wet, which I don't think it is.

The weather is similar, but maybe not as bad as what it was like at the Galway Rally two weeks ago. Rautencrash times improved alot when he switched to the Monte tyre.

[Viking]

"For this year we decided to have an emergency snow tyre available for Ireland because we think competitors could face conditions a bit like Monte Carlo. So in addition to the base soft-compound PZero we have the same non-studded SottoZero winter tyre that was an option last year in Monte."

[Ghostwalker]

ehhh... it is a tarmac rally ;)

oh i didnt know that.

[J.Lindstroem]

oh i didnt know that.

Pardon my ignorance but i think we noticed that. :rolleyes:

[Daniel]

"For this year we decided to have an emergency snow tyre available for Ireland because we think competitors could face conditions a bit like Monte Carlo. So in addition to the base soft-compound PZero we have the same non-studded SottoZero winter tyre that was an option last year in Monte."
LOL :D And what conditions do we have? Extremely wet of course and do Pirelli have an extreme wet tyre? No.

[OldF]

What is happening? :confused: After three stages Khalid AL QASSIMI is ahead of Atko and Sebastian Ogier. Do they have (Atko & Ogier) some troubles?

[Corny]

is that a question?

[OldF]

I’m just wondering. Usually Khalid is behind these guys.

[bluuford]

Well. Khalid is eight because he has now much nicer number plates on doors. He is more satisfied with new plates and has to think less about those things. Now he can concentrate more on driving.

Conrad changed his co-driver and is now much faster. Previously he had to fight with his co-driver and had to convince him that he is not slow and he can be faster after every stage km. Therefore he often dint hear pace notes and ended off the road. New co-driver does not know him yet so well and they talk only about weather :-P

[bt52b]

Probably didn't help the Akto was on wrong tyre and smashed his windscreen with his bonnet!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Probably didn't help the Akto was on wrong tyre and smashed his windscreen with his bonnet!

Espionage by the French!

:p

[Viking]

Probably didn't help the Akto was on wrong tyre and smashed his windscreen with his bonnet!

Is Atkos bonnet still up?

[DonJippo]

Aava about to loose his lead on this stage.

[bluuford]

Last year Urmo was complaining that it was really hard to get used to the C4 at first. Later when he found the sweet spot, it was not so hard anymore.

[darkstar]

everything looks like always now...boring.

[MikeD]

Hmmm it actually looks as if Wilslow is getting slower and slower for each year. Hard to think that's even possible.

[Tom206wrc]

Times frozen before Henning... :confused:

[Finni]

Hmmm it actually looks as if Wilslow is getting slower and slower for each year. Hard to think that's even possible.

Isn't it fifth year now? :) Few years ago Tomi said it will be interesting how good a driver with no talent can get with perfect conditions. It seems not very good.

[Finni]

These are difficult conditions to learn new car.

[bluuford]

Hmmm it actually looks as if Wilslow is getting slower and slower for each year. Hard to think that's even possible.

Who said that there is no surprises anymore :-P

[COD]

So Sordo passed Hirvonen now and Latvala crashed so everything is as predicred. They might as well stop the rally now :laugh:

[Corny]

Seems like it's going to be another boring rally with

1 loeb
2 sordo
3 hirvonen

in the end...

[rp]

Isn't it fifth year now? :) Few years ago Tomi said it will be interesting how good a driver with no talent can get with perfect conditions. It seems not very good.

It is Matthew´s fourth full time driving year in the WRC, but he drove Focus WRC already 2004 and 2005. Next year will be his last year of the five year plan, so still much time to be slower...

[Finni]

Only interesting thing left is how much Atkinson can gather pace till the rally ends. In last stage he had same pace with Hirvonen two last splits. Let's see how Chris can improve.

[darkstar]

Seems like it's going to be another boring rally with

1 loeb
2 sordo
3 hirvonen

in the end...

yes...this morning after stage 1 i thought: man, thats an exiting rallye. but after the first cars on stage 2 everything was over... :o

cant loeb stop rallyeing please? :rolleyes: ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Why no more times on SS4 ??? Crap WRC.COM :rolleyes:

[Finni]

I have continual difficulties to load wrc.com pages. It has been same now few years. If my memory serves it has been ok years ago. Amazing that they are not getting it work even with less and less spectators...

[Tom206wrc]

I have continual difficulties to load wrc.com pages. It has been same now few years. If my memory serves it has been ok years ago. Amazing that they are not getting it work even with less and less spectators...



ISC back from 2010 to 2020...things don't look like an improvement to come :s

[StevieWonder]

Only interesting thing left is how much Atkinson can gather pace till the rally ends. In last stage he had same pace with Hirvonen two last splits. Let's see how Chris can improve.

but nevertheless 19.8 sec slower than mikko on stage 3
mikko also sometimes matches good times like seb, but all in all loeb is often the faster one

nice to see some more fans of andi aigner !!!

[Almeidafoto]

Why no more times on SS4 ??? Crap WRC.COM :rolleyes:

I ask the same, but something wrong is happening, because the Rally Ireland official site, has only the same four times.

[Corny]

how many rallies will ford keep missing Marcus Grönholm?

and Aava already losing quit a lot.. Malcom Wilson, I prefer Duval and Galli on the Stobart team, Duval for the results and Galli for the spectators ;)

[Rally Hokkaido]

stage times have been updated on wrc.com, but splits still not working

[modri dirkac]

Is Atkos bonnet still up?

Good one ... :rotflmao:

[Tom206wrc]

Atko and Ogier back on Wilslow :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Prokop back !!!! A Jwrc podium isn't out for him if pace keeps on ;)

[Almeidafoto]

Loeb leads, he won 38.5s to Aava on SS4

[MikeD]

Just hearing the interview with Al Quassimi, who's saying that this years Rally Cypres will be a mixed event with pure tarmac on day 1 and gravel on day 2+3. Did the rest of you know that?

Anyway, it sounds interesting. Been a while since we have had a mixed event.

[darkstar]

Malcom Wilson, I prefer Duval and Galli on the Stobart team, Duval for the results and Galli for the spectators ;)

defenetly! duval´s also pretty spectacular and fast!

[John V]

Just hearing the interview with Al Quassimi, who's saying that this years Rally Cypres will be a mixed event with pure tarmac on day 1 and gravel on day 2+3. Did the rest of you know that?

Anyway, it sounds interesting. Been a while since we have had a mixed event.

Yes, but whole race on GRAVEL tyres!

[bt52b]

Think its Wilson's 50th WRC rally this weekend

[jonkka]

Think its Wilson's 50th WRC rally this weekend

Yes

[darkstar]

all the ford´s still loosing time...

[bluuford]

looks like henning has lost a lot at the end of stage: over eight seconds faster than Wilson before the end and slower at the end

[Brother John]

And the winner is ........... LOEB
If you see what´s going on with wrc now in Ireland, som teams, sponsors or orgenizers must think now........... :dozey:
WHAT THE F*** WE DOING HERE?
In Norway it will become not much better.

[Halvis]

Henning obviously had a moment of some kind on SS5, lost a lot from last split and in.

[Tomi]

Aava wipes the road with "the very special deal solberg" big time.