Ireland 2009 [Archive] - Page 4

Mihai

1st February 2009, 09:39

Atko is around for a long time in the WRC... he gained experience and it's about the time to deliver strong results. Ogier only stepped up last year to the top level, he's a rookie in the big league. None of us know what Quesnel tells Ogier to do in this rally, so don't judge him because he's not matching Loeb & Sordo. It seems to me he's doing a goob job for someone who is yet to score a point in the WRC.

jonkka

1st February 2009, 09:40

It seems to me he's doing a goob job for someone who is yet to score a point in the WRC.

Ogier has scored a WRC point already - on his WRC debut in Mexico 2008.

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 09:44

You're comparing man with 66 WRC starts to a boy with just 8 WRC starts. Pretty one-sided, I'd say.
On the other hand it is a comparison of a works driver to a pay-driver, a comparison of a driver with hundreds of hours spent with the C4 WRC to a driver with just a few hours test...

John V

1st February 2009, 09:44

Btw.: All the best for Urmo Aava, he's celebrating 30. birthdays tomorrow! :)

darkstar

1st February 2009, 09:52

sordo is lost again on splits...

edit: there he is again

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 09:53

I don't think so...

I think he is slow. But that maybe is compared to my expectations after his stagewin in GB and the Monte win... off course this is just his second Wrc start so... Maybe my expectations was to high... But i nwver thought he whould be beaten by Henning on the stages...

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 09:54

On the other hand it is a comparison of a works driver to a pay-driver, a comparison of a driver with hundreds of hours spent with the C4 WRC to a driver with just a few hours test...

has Ogier really had so much more time with the C4?

darkstar

1st February 2009, 09:55

I think he is slow. But that maybe is compared to my expectations after his stagewin in GB and the Monte win... off course this is just his second Wrc start so... Maybe my expectations was to high... But i nwver thought he whould be beaten by Henning on the stages...

me to, i thought he could stick to the leaders.

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 09:57

I have followed his career and it is clear that he is untypical French driver. he is fast on gravel but needs to improve on tarmac.. a lot!
By the way.. greetings to everyone from very slow dial up connection ;-)

Sounds quite unusual with a french driver who is better on gravel...

MikeD

1st February 2009, 09:58

Can anybody confirm that the final stage will be shown on WRC TV?

jonkka

1st February 2009, 09:59

and the Monte win...

Monte win?

MikeD

1st February 2009, 10:03

Monte win?

Refering to his IRC Monte win...

Halvis

1st February 2009, 10:05

I must say Henning is keeping up much better than I though - considering it is tarmac. Maybe he has gotten a more up-to-date car this year afterall?

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 10:06

Monte win?

yes wasnt that a great achievement?

darkstar

1st February 2009, 10:07

Can anybody confirm that the final stage will be shown on WRC TV?

live coverage (http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=3691&desc=Rally%20Ireland%20on%20wrc.com)

Mirek

1st February 2009, 10:07

Jonkka: Were You sleeping? :)

Yes, Ogier won IRC Monte Carlo 2009 although he wasn't fastest but had no problems. He was doing times around 4th in stage (except his home stage which he won).

Edit: I'm veeery slow, the slowest of all :D

MikeD

1st February 2009, 10:09

live coverage (http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=3691&desc=Rally%20Ireland%20on%20wrc.com)

Thanks ;)

jonkka

1st February 2009, 10:18

Refering to his IRC Monte win...

Ah, the bicycling race... Well, I am sure Rautenbach and Matthew Wilson have also won something.

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 10:23

Ah, the bicycling race... Well, I am sure Rautenbach and Matthew Wilson have also won something.

I think the J-WRC in 2008 was more like a bicycling race than the Monte Carlo rally...

Mirek

1st February 2009, 10:23

Yes, that bycicling race which was ten tousand percent more exciting than this dying thing called World Rally Championship...

Mirek

1st February 2009, 10:27

J.Lindstroem: Sad thing is that JWRC 2009 is even worse, much worse...

darkstar

1st February 2009, 10:27

]Yes, that bycicling race which was ten tousand percent more exciting than this dying thing called World Rally Championship...

defenetly true!

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 10:30

]J.Lindstroem: Sad thing is that JWRC 2009 is even worse, much worse...

everything seems to be much worse this year.... except for the IRC then! ;)

iJones

1st February 2009, 10:31

Ah, the bicycling race...
Well, at least there was some action plus a good TV-coverage. In the WRC only excitement is on which of the first three stages Latvala is going to crash and how spectacular crash Atko is going to perform. Wake me up when the season is over. :s nore:

John V

1st February 2009, 10:33

Ah, the bicycling race... Well, I am sure Rautenbach and Matthew Wilson have also won something.
Only one REAL bicycle racer was at Monte ... E.T. :) But what a racer, 10 times world champion! And pretty good man.

Ogier had luck during Monte, but nevertheless, he won. And in the end, Peugeot freezed positions, so Freddy backed-off. But seems the Ogier is really having talent. Anyway I don't like the way how he presented on Monte Carlo in TV. Howgh! :)

And maybe it's only my personal feeling, as I followed past seasons personally, but IRC and ERC still have more familiarity spirit between crews and peoples around.

jonkka

1st February 2009, 10:42

There is a separate board for IRC:
http://forums.motorsport.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=157

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 11:12

has Ogier really had so much more time with the C4?
You doubt this?!?

Mirek

1st February 2009, 11:15

FabiaFan: I hope You'll show us complete list of testing Ogier did in C4. I'm realy looking forward to see it. Thank You

ProRally

1st February 2009, 11:20

]J.Lindstroem: Sad thing is that JWRC 2009 is even worse, much worse...

Here in Ireland, ALL JWRC get points.... there are only 7 left

SchUMine

1st February 2009, 11:23

live coverage (http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=3691&desc=Rally%20Ireland%20on%20wrc.com)

I am so excited!

darkstar

1st February 2009, 12:06

I am so excited!

me too, is this a typical spectator super special, with one on one?

1st February 2009, 12:08

There is a separate board for IRC:
http://forums.motorsport.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=157

Ahhh, another Finn with IRC-Phobia. Most people seemed to think Monte was more like proper rallying than this thing called WRC.

And for the Ogier bashers, how quickly some of you forget he made the points on his first WRC event (in an S1600 car) he won his first stage in a World Rally Car and led Rally GB until stage 5. He won as many stages on Rally GB as he did on Monte (one)

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 12:11

Ahhh, another Finn with IRC-Phobia. Most people seemed to think Monte was more like proper rallying than this thing called WRC.

And for the Ogier bashers, how quickly some of you forget he made the points on his first WRC event (in an S1600 car) he won his first stage in a World Rally Car and led Rally GB until stage 5. He won as many stages on Rally GB as he did on Monte (one)

Yes and that makes his pace this weekend suprisingly slow... :S

darkstar

1st February 2009, 12:12

atkinson looses lots of time!!! and loeb had some big moment, and tipically loeb, luck again! nothing happened...

pettersolberg29

1st February 2009, 12:14

I think Atko's time is 57.8 not plus 57.8 because apparently he had no damage when passing my mate on SS18 about 5km in...

pettersolberg29

1st February 2009, 12:15

Or maybe I'm wrong!! +1.01 now!

1st February 2009, 12:15

Yes and that makes his pace this weekend suprisingly slow... :S

Yeah, I have to say I did expect more from him this weekend, but that message was more directed to those who earlier on this thread saying that Ogier's performance here proved that IRC was "nothing"

Anyhow, interesting that it looks like this thread will have less views and posts than the 2009 Monte one :)

jonkka

1st February 2009, 12:16

Anyhow, interesting that it looks like this thread will have less views and posts than the 2009 Monte one :)

A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...

jonkka

1st February 2009, 12:18

Or maybe I'm wrong!! +1.01 now!

And losing steadily. Luckily Ogier is too far behind so he won't drop more than one place.

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 12:21

A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...

haha youre funny!

darkstar

1st February 2009, 12:22

if i understood atkinson right, he went off the stage, and got stuck, spectators had to push him out of there.

1st February 2009, 12:23

A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...

Ok, very witty. But how can it be a good thing for WRC if there is less interest amongst motorsport fans in it's opening round than the "other" series?

MikeD

1st February 2009, 12:23

Ahhh, another Finn with IRC-Phobia.

Why is it so hard for you to get it. Some us just don't like the IRC for different reasons. Some think the cars are too slow or the drivers to mediocre ... or a combo of both.

Most people seemed to think Monte was more like proper rallying than this thing called WRC.

Yeah yeah whatever. If you don't like the WRC, then there is an IRC thread for you to post in.

jonkka

1st February 2009, 12:28

Ok, very witty. But how can it be a good thing for WRC if there is less interest amongst motorsport fans in it's opening round than the "other" series?

It can't be, you're right about that.

But nobody has yet explained why it is so? It can't be the cars or the drivers - it could be because Monte is so classic (and Ireland is somewhat obscure yet) - it could be because Loeb is too dominant - it could be many other things.

John V

1st February 2009, 12:29

A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...

Can u tell us why do you hate IRC and this 'babyfrog' called Ogier please?
I like WRC, ERC, IRC and other championships, but there must be COMPETITION.
Sincerest apologize that we bit discussed about WRC vs. IRC in this thread :)

1st February 2009, 12:29

Yeah yeah whatever. If you don't like the WRC, then there is an IRC thread for you to post in.

I like the sport of rallying and follow both series' but there are many things WRC could learn from IRC and maybe will eventually.

I don't have a problem with people if IRC is not too their taste, but sometimes they are also blind to the faults of WRC.

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 12:31

Yeah yeah whatever. If you don't like the WRC, then there is an IRC thread for you to post in.

your attitude is like a 14 year old girl "yeah yeah whatever".

Anyway, i like cars going fast so i like both the WRC and the IRC very much.

cut the b.s.

1st February 2009, 12:35

A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...

You're just another scandianavian struggling with your own being beaten by the french, get used to it, cause Seb2 will be the real deal before JML ever grows up :)

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 12:36

You're just another scandianavian struggling with your own being beaten by the french, get used to it, cause Seb2 will be the real deal before JML ever grows up :)

hey man cut that bull about scandinavians ;) Actually i quite like finns bening beaten, in whatever context!

MikeD

1st February 2009, 12:36

I like the sport of rallying and follow both series' but there are many things WRC could learn from IRC and maybe will eventually.

I don't have a problem with people if IRC is not too their taste, but sometimes they are also blind to the faults of WRC.

But you have repeated your favourtism of the IRC in so many threads, and this is the thread for the WRC round in Ireland, so maybe we should keep it that way, and discuss the IRC in the proper thread for that.

jonkka

1st February 2009, 12:37

there are many things WRC could learn from IRC and maybe will eventually.

That is absolutely true - there is always room for improvement.

I don't have a problem with people if IRC is not too their taste, but sometimes they are also blind to the faults of WRC.

I am not, hopefully, oblivious of what's wrong in WRC but since I can't do anything about it, why should I boil my water for nothing?

MikeD

1st February 2009, 12:38

You're just another scandianavian ...

FYI Finland is not Scandinavia (That's only DK, NO & SE)... it's a country in the Nordics.

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 12:39

FYI Finland is not Scandinavia (That's only DK, NO & SE)... it's a country in the Nordics.

oh i didnt even know that haha

jonkka

1st February 2009, 12:46

Can u tell us why do you hate IRC and this 'babyfrog' called Ogier please?

I do not hate Ogier, why should I?

I like WRC, ERC, IRC and other championships, but there must be COMPETITION.

I understand that, close competition is what WRC is lacking too often these days. But competition just for competition's sake isn't what appeals to me, otherwise I'd be trying to get into women's toilet after midnight in any decent sized pub - man, that's really tough.

However, I want to see the best men in the best equipment and if that means seeing superior Loeb in superior C4 dominate, then that's what it is. Unfortunately for now, but that will change. Biasion dominated, Makinen dominated, Peugeot dominated, now it's Loeb and next it'll be someone else.

darkstar

1st February 2009, 12:55

goes pretty much offtopic here...

the livestream is running now...

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 13:00

... I'd be trying to get into women's toilet after midnight in any decent sized pub - man, that's really tough... Haha, yeah!

...Biasion dominated... ?!?!? You cannot be serious about that :s

John V

1st February 2009, 13:03

A million flies can't be wrong, that brown thing must be good...

I do not hate Ogier, why should I?

I understand that, close competition is what WRC is lacking too often these days. But competition just for competition's sake isn't what appeals to me, otherwise I'd be trying to get into women's toilet after midnight in any decent sized pub - man, that's really tough.

However, I want to see the best men in the best equipment and if that means seeing superior Loeb in superior C4 dominate, then that's what it is. Unfortunately for now, but that will change. Biasion dominated, Makinen dominated, Peugeot dominated, now it's Loeb and next it'll be someone else.

Ok, I will explain what I mean: Seb L is number one, no doubts, and thing C4 is probably best WRC. And I'm missing WRC cars, but I was sad when gr.B era finished as well. Everything is under developement (or evolution?) Just I'm missing some more battles, not only for 1st place, but between the others. Hope future will be bright.

Simmi

1st February 2009, 13:04

Nice bit of car control from Seb sliding it sideways through the streets. Extremely short stage though. Well done to Seb anyway!

bluuford

1st February 2009, 13:05

So, lets talk about rally itself.
anyone noticed that Gallagher is missing? What happened?

And I am so happy about entertainers that Citroen junior team brought to us all their drivers went off at least once:-) and they did it quite spectacularly..

Puceddu

1st February 2009, 13:06

h.
However, I want to see the best men in the best equipment

of course in a competition where
-special stages are cancelled because it rains....
-best drivers can't drive a car for liasion more than 30 km...
-those best equipments can't be used on greek gravel roads unless they are made smooth etc.

Back on topic. Nice special stage and nice action. I hope they keep on offering live coverage.

cosmicpanda

1st February 2009, 13:07

All tarmac events should be made to use snow tyres.

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 13:09

And I am so happy about entertainers that Citroen junior team brought to us all their drivers went off at least once:-) and they did it quite spectacularly.. Ogier went off? Or did he entertain anyone??? But he will be there for the majority of the season, while Atkinson...

urabus-denoS2000

1st February 2009, 13:15

Matt extremely attractive.....respect for that

Although he did stall at a harpin

darkstar

1st February 2009, 13:19

Matt extremely attractive.....respect for that

Although he did stall at a harpin

yeah looked cool!

shaitan

1st February 2009, 13:23

why so many poor crybaby in there said that i want to see c4 off the road.
just cos some guy not to drive citroen?

bluuford

1st February 2009, 13:27

Ogier went off? Or did he entertain anyone??? But he will be there for the majority of the season, while Atkinson...

31. 01. 09:40 RZ 9 A8 OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. Damaged car, lost lighpod, flapping door "On brakes we went off."

Sulland

1st February 2009, 13:32

oh i didnt even know that haha

FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries#Chronology_of_the_Nordic_countrie s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia
Here it is a bit unlear as well, but the normal definition is that Denmark, Sweden and Norway is Scandinavia - add Finland and Iceland and you have the Nordic Coutries.

Allyc85

1st February 2009, 13:39

Live coverage not working for me, i get sound but no picture :(

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 13:40

31. 01. 09:40 RZ 9 A8 OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. Damaged car, lost lighpod, flapping door "On brakes we went off." Right, sorry...

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 13:43

FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries#Chronology_of_the_Nordic_countrie s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia
Here it is a bit unlear as well, but the normal definition is that Denmark, Sweden and Norway is Scandinavia - add Finland and Iceland and you have the Nordic Coutries.
Could the Finnish members make a poll, whether they FEEL to be "Scandinavians" or not... ? After reading this I'm rather confused...

Mauri A

1st February 2009, 13:52

Could the Finnish members make a poll, whether they FEEL to be "Scandinavians" or not... ? After reading this I'm rather confused...
We are not Scandinavians, we are FINNS!

FabiaFan

1st February 2009, 13:54

We are not Scandinavians, we are FINNS!
OK, I get it!!!

Barreis

1st February 2009, 13:55

Please send critics of video coverage on this e-mail:
[email:2qak5vjk]legalinfo@northonetv.com[/email:2qak5vjk]

pettersolberg29

1st February 2009, 14:18

I'll be the first to congratulate Henning on a great result, consitent driving and even a little bit of pace! The amount of punctures he gets is unreal as well!

Other than Henning, well doen Ogier on finishing a hard event, and to AlQassami on his first points.

urabus-denoS2000

1st February 2009, 14:22

How many rallys did Al-Qassimi do in a WORKS team before he scored a point?

pettersolberg29

1st February 2009, 14:27

Loads, but for a terrible driver he did well to finsih and get a point.

AndyRAC

1st February 2009, 14:44

Loads, but for a terrible driver he did well to finsih and get a point.

And he was quicker than Wilson on some stages..........

John V

1st February 2009, 14:50

J.Lindstroem

1st February 2009, 14:50

And he was quicker than Wilson on some stages..........

The championship whould have a real swing up if we only could take away rautenbach, wilson and quassimi and replace them with other drivers as duval, galli, atkinson or something

AndyRAC

1st February 2009, 14:55

The championship whould have a real swing up if we only could take away rautenbach, wilson and quassimi and replace them with other drivers as duval, galli, atkinson or something

There might not be a Ford team then, I presume the Abu Dhabi deal means Al Qassimi is part of the official works team. Like when Nakajima came with the Honda engines in F1.

cut the b.s.

1st February 2009, 16:16

OK, wish nice evening to everybody, hope next events will be bit dramatic at least. See you in Norway, hope we will not freeze there.
Btw.: Will be somebody else on stages? Hope our friends "from north", it means Norway, Sweden, Finland etc., be there :)

Be fair to Ireland, its been the most eventful tar WRC event since Monte 06, and it was only interesting because Loeb fell asleep. Not pretty weather, but the scenery is good and the drivers have to keep sharp, the result could all have been very different with Loebs scare on the 2nd last stage!

Halvis

1st February 2009, 16:41

Convincing win for Seb, typical for him to escape his moment on the penultimate stage without any damages (how mmany times has that happened ...?). Very encouraging rally for Henning, who would have guessed that he almost got stage victories (on last day, but still) on tarmac? I never saw that coming, as I said earlier, is it a proof that his car this year actually is better, or what? I'm very eager to see what he can do in Norway, another podium for him is not unlikely.

ste898

1st February 2009, 17:12

Congrats to Loeb on a perfect win (with no real opposition)

Is it true that he fell asleep with bordem and thats how he went off the road today?

BDunnell

1st February 2009, 17:17

Congrats to Loeb on a perfect win (with no real opposition)

Is it true that he fell asleep with bordem and thats how he went off the road today?

Or maybe he was suddenly overcome with the pointlessness of the whole competition.

John V

1st February 2009, 17:29

Be fair to Ireland, its been the most eventful tar WRC event since Monte 06, and it was only interesting because Loeb fell asleep. Not pretty weather, but the scenery is good and the drivers have to keep sharp, the result could all have been very different with Loebs scare on the 2nd last stage!

I have nothing against the Ireland as I was there in 2005 with Ignis S1600 and we scored very good result. Stages, countryside and especially local peoples were great!

Finni

1st February 2009, 17:38

guessed that he almost got stage victories (on last day, but still) on tarmac? I never saw that coming, as I said earlier, is it a proof that his car this year actually is better, or what? I'm very eager to see what he can do in Norway, another podium for him is not unlikely.

Yes, he got almost one stage win when he and Mikko chose better tyre than others. Conditions were not representatives for normal tarmac.

In Henning' case there has been so much space to improve that it's not the most natural way to seek it from the car (unless we are assuming that Stobart cars are massively slow on tarmac). Last year Latvala was more competitive with Stobart-Focus than with the works one and Dudu was rather fast in Germany.

1st February 2009, 17:44

Henning did great but I don't think Ireland (especially this year) should be considered a normal tarmac event. Latvala was maybe the only one who could challenge Seb here, so pity he stuck it in the ditches again.

Norway should certainly offer us more of a battle as the Ford boys are bound to be closer to or even ahead of Loeb there and it will be interesting to see how Petter goes in the old Xsara.

4Regioni

1st February 2009, 17:45

Once more super seb...

ste898

1st February 2009, 17:55

Or maybe he was suddenly overcome with the pointlessness of the whole competition.

Yeh that could be it.......

ste898

1st February 2009, 17:56

Norway should certainly offer us more of a battle as the Ford boys are bound to be closer to or even ahead of Loeb there and it will be interesting to see how Petter goes in the old Xsara.

I would'nt hold my breath on that one.......

AndyRAC

1st February 2009, 18:00

Or maybe he was suddenly overcome with the pointlessness of the whole competition.

How dare you say that, don't you know that these are the finest cars and drivers in the world.........

....you haven't been watching 'that other series' have you?

BDunnell

1st February 2009, 18:06

How dare you say that, don't you know that these are the finest cars and drivers in the world.........

....you haven't been watching 'that other series' have you?

I must change my opinion immediately. Having seen some footage of Matthew Wilson at the start of the fantastic Dave coverage just now, I could scarcely be more excited about the season in prospect, and have thrown away my videos of old RACs.

AndyRAC

1st February 2009, 18:11

I must change my opinion immediately. Having seen some footage of Matthew Wilson at the start of the fantastic Dave coverage just now, I could scarcely be more excited about the season in prospect, and have thrown away my videos of old RACs.

Good boy - you know it makes sense!! ;)

I might be being unfair, but is he getting any quicker? I mean Ogier beat him in only his second time in a WRCar.

Koppomsbo

1st February 2009, 18:14

Good boy - you know it makes sense!! ;)

I might be being unfair, but is he getting any quicker? I mean Ogier beat him in only his second time in a WRCar.

On the other hand, Ogier was Beating everyone in Wales last year until he got problems

ste898

1st February 2009, 18:36

I might be being unfair, but is he getting any quicker? .

I think the answer to that is a definate NO!!!!

Woodeye

1st February 2009, 18:42

What there was a rally? Yawn. Didn't watch it all, I saw that Ford guys had some action and Seb hitting top times in every stage. Kinda reminds me from last year.

rx-guru

1st February 2009, 18:51

Henning is lost case on asphalt. :) On gravel he is ok but there is no reason to believe he is top-noth. Never been and never will be. He started far away and has filled his potential by being on podium in some races.

On tarmac he is such potatoe... sorry to use N.O.T's terminology.

Was there anyone else in Ireland he could have beaten…?

urabus-denoS2000

1st February 2009, 18:53

Kinda reminds me from last year.

Really?

It reminds me from 2007.....

and 2006........

and 2005.......

oh and 2004.......

Loeb rocks! :D

Daniel

1st February 2009, 18:57

I must change my opinion immediately. Having seen some footage of Matthew Wilson at the start of the fantastic Dave coverage just now, I could scarcely be more excited about the season in prospect, and have thrown away my videos of old RACs.

I wish they'd stop with the stupid Mattie segments on Dave. If he was a Colin McRae type figure and had the draw I could understand but get someone who actually has some skill and some media skills. Might I suggest Chris Atkinson for one? Or just anyone else...... heck even Conrad can't be as annoying as Mattie.

BDunnell

1st February 2009, 18:59

I wish they'd stop with the stupid Mattie segments on Dave. If he was a Colin McRae type figure and had the draw I could understand but get someone who actually has some skill and some media skills. Might I suggest Chris Atkinson for one? Or just anyone else...... heck even Conrad can't be as annoying as Mattie.

I turned over after the intro and put Murder, She Wrote on on the Alibi channel instead.

Daniel

1st February 2009, 19:05

I turned over after the intro and put Murder, She Wrote on on the Alibi channel instead.
Ah crap! I missed out on some hot Angela Lansbury action for that rally? :(

BDunnell

1st February 2009, 19:07

Ah crap! I missed out on some hot Angela Lansbury action for that rally? :(

I changed channels because, frankly, there was more chance of Jessica Fletcher acknowledging the fact that the WRC is in a crap state than the presenters on Dave.

Daniel

1st February 2009, 19:10

I changed channels because, frankly, there was more chance of Jessica Fletcher acknowledging the fact that the WRC is in a crap state than the presenters on Dave.
Perhaps they could have a whodunnit based on the WRC!

Who killed the WRC?

Paul King?
Max Mosley?
Paul King?
The PSA group with their huge spends?
Paul King?
The ISC with their woeful coverage?
Paul King?
The FIA with their amazingly astonishing lack of action on all matters WRC related?
Paul King?
Global Warming?
Paul King?

Oh and did I mention Paul King? :D

AndyRAC

1st February 2009, 19:11

I changed channels because, frankly, there was more chance of Jessica Fletcher acknowledging the fact that the WRC is in a crap state than the presenters on Dave.

Why all this needless negativity.....?? ;)

I was listening to Rally radio, and they're looking forward to an exciting year.
Look, we're not stupid, it's in a parless state, don't make out that everything is normal.

Daniel

1st February 2009, 19:19

Why all this needless negativity.....?? ;)

I was listening to Rally radio, and they're looking forward to an exciting year.
Look, we're not stupid, it's in a parless state, don't make out that everything is normal.

Ah Rally Radio. Excitement aplenty from Colin "I can't keep my mouth shut for 2 seconds" Whateverhislastnameis, Becs "My presenting style is about as interesting as 300 5 day old McDonalds burgers which have been deep fried in urine and then compressed to make a sort of big elephants foot kebab thing and then carved off and served in pita bread with salad and dodgy garlic sauce" Whateverherlastnameis and music as chosen by teenagers who are too dim to go out and buy a CD single for £3-4 at Tesco so they pay £5 to download a tiny snippet of it as their ringtone for their phone because they're too feckless to use the software that comes with their phone.

BDunnell

1st February 2009, 19:37

Why all this needless negativity.....?? ;)

I was listening to Rally radio, and they're looking forward to an exciting year.
Look, we're not stupid, it's in a parless state, don't make out that everything is normal.

This can be of the big problems with the way in which the main broadcasters of 'major' sports such as the WRC are now such close partners of the sports themselves. It undoubtedly can hold them back from criticism when it's due. I have to say that ITV's F1 coverage was a notable exception, as is much of the BBC's sporting output. Dave, on the other hand, lacks any sense of journalistic rigour.

Daniel

1st February 2009, 19:38

AndyRAC

1st February 2009, 19:47

This can be of the big problems with the way in which the main broadcasters of 'major' sports such as the WRC are now such close partners of the sports themselves. It undoubtedly can hold them back from criticism when it's due. I have to say that ITV's F1 coverage was a notable exception, as is much of the BBC's sporting output. Dave, on the other hand, lacks any sense of journalistic rigour.

Which was the main problem with Rally XS magazine - it was an ISC product, and mouthpiece for the WRC, however Rallysport was excellent.....
The problem is who is going to provide coverage of this 'major' sport AND have serious journalists, asking difficult questions, raising pertinent points, etc
The answer, is Nobody!!

ste898

1st February 2009, 20:03

Paul King is about as crap as the WRC IS RIGHT NOW!!!!

A.F.F.

1st February 2009, 21:49

Just watched the footage of the rally.

Congrats Sebastien, there's no substitute :up:

Welcome rally Norway. :)

Mirek

2nd February 2009, 00:42

I can see that Ogier was the only one to drive 07 Citroën (different bumper for example).

cosmicpanda

2nd February 2009, 03:09

Mosley said that ISC is going to bring WRC onto internet. I hope so.

Rally_Rocks

2nd February 2009, 07:27

Ah Rally Radio. Excitement aplenty from Colin "I can't keep my mouth shut for 2 seconds" Whateverhislastnameis, Becs "My presenting style is about as interesting as 300 5 day old McDonalds burgers which have been deep fried in urine and then compressed to make a sort of big elephants foot kebab thing and then carved off and served in pita bread with salad and dodgy garlic sauce" Whateverherlastnameis and music as chosen by teenagers who are too dim to go out and buy a CD single for £3-4 at Tesco so they pay £5 to download a tiny snippet of it as their ringtone for their phone because they're too feckless to use the software that comes with their phone.

Daniel, the bile you spew is somewhat odious.

Your views on rallying are occassionally worth listening to but you clearly have no idea about broadcasting. You constantly snipe about what is an entertaining and informative show. I don't get it and think there is perhaps more to it than you are letting on. You bang on about the soporific Mark James, a lovely guy but way behind the times and dull as ditch.

Say what you like about Colin, maybe he's not everyones taste, but you can't deny his passion.

But what really makes me mad is your unjustifiable and unpleasant attack on Becs. Anyone who has the tinniest clue about broadcasting recognizes that she is one of the finest female radio broadcasters in the UK. We are lucky to have her.

Please just go off and listen to the fine radio coverage of your beloved IRC, and leave the rest of us to enjoy the quality of WRR

Daniel

2nd February 2009, 08:38

Daniel, the bile you spew is somewhat odious.

Your views on rallying are occassionally worth listening to but you clearly have no idea about broadcasting. You constantly snipe about what is an entertaining and informative show. I don't get it and think there is perhaps more to it than you are letting on. You bang on about the soporific Mark James, a lovely guy but way behind the times and dull as ditch.

Say what you like about Colin, maybe he's not everyones taste, but you can't deny his passion.

But what really makes me mad is your unjustifiable and unpleasant attack on Becs. Anyone who has the tinniest clue about broadcasting recognizes that she is one of the finest female radio broadcasters in the UK. We are lucky to have her.

Please just go off and listen to the fine radio coverage of your beloved IRC, and leave the rest of us to enjoy the woeful quality of WRR

I don't care about whether someone is a woman or a man. If they can't do the job then poo to them. I've met Becs and she's a nice person but I just don't think the coverage they give is great. She is truly crap when compared to someone like Suzi Perry who is for me the finest female sports broadcaster I can think of. Colin might be passionate but so are a lot of other annoying people. That man could get excited over the thought of a slice of processed cheese, this sort of artificial excitement isn't what we need in the WRC. The IRC on the Monte didn't need someone needlessly raising their voice everytime anything happened to be exciting.

Perhaps you like the style of WRR but a lot of people don't dude :) I loved the coverage they did of the Colin McRae stages, I really did and I have the utmost respect for Greg as he's a true broadcasting professional but WRR has been pretty bad since he stopped being part of the team.

pino

2nd February 2009, 09:02

Say what you like about Colin, maybe he's not everyones taste, but you can't deny his passion.

But what really makes me mad is your unjustifiable and unpleasant attack on Becs. Anyone who has the tinniest clue about broadcasting recognizes that she is one of the finest female radio broadcasters in the UK. We are lucky to have her.

I totally agree with you, and I like a lot both Colin and Becs, I think they do a great job :up:

Rally_Rocks

2nd February 2009, 10:03

BDunnell

2nd February 2009, 10:51

She is truly crap when compared to someone like Suzi Perry who is for me the finest female sports broadcaster I can think of.

Have to disagree with you there, although I have never heard the World Rally Radio person you've been referring to. In my book Suzi Perry is not a patch on Clare Balding or Hazel Irvine, both of whom I think are well up to Rider standards.

jonkka

2nd February 2009, 16:48

Maybe WRR should not play less music (or not at all). Tastes are so wildly different and WRR is a specialist radio, why not concentrate on the subject matter. So too often, they play music when stage is on and fans want to know if someone is just missing a split or has gone off. Since they have - or had - the same ISC tracking equipment that teams have, maybe they could pass the info on to audience.

And Haribos... whenever they don't have anything new to say, someone to interview or anything rally related at all, would it not be better to go through the results and next stage start times and whatever over and over again instead of - well, Haribos.

I think that, overall, WRR is a very good concept. It's got huge potential. I am just not thrilled the way it's executed at the moment.

steve_spackman

2nd February 2009, 17:32

Just watched the footage of the rally.

Congrats Sebastien, there's no substitute :up:

Welcome rally Norway. :)

Praps they should hand Loeb and Citroen the drivers and makes titles now.. :p

A.F.F.

2nd February 2009, 17:56

Praps they should hand Loeb and Citroen the drivers and makes titles now.. :p

I have a feeling that Rally Norway is a different matter steve. And I have feeling Loeb knows it too. I said welcome Rally Norway because there both, Hirvonen and Latvala should go really fast. :up:

Daniel

2nd February 2009, 18:12

Have to disagree with you there, although I have never heard the World Rally Radio person you've been referring to. In my book Suzi Perry is not a patch on Clare Balding or Hazel Irvine, both of whom I think are well up to Rider standards.

Well I've not heard of either of those :p

Maybe WRR should not play less music (or not at all). Tastes are so wildly different and WRR is a specialist radio, why not concentrate on the subject matter. So too often, they play music when stage is on and fans want to know if someone is just missing a split or has gone off. Since they have - or had - the same ISC tracking equipment that teams have, maybe they could pass the info on to audience.

And Haribos... whenever they don't have anything new to say, someone to interview or anything rally related at all, would it not be better to go through the results and next stage start times and whatever over and over again instead of - well, Haribos.

I think that, overall, WRR is a very good concept. It's got huge potential. I am just not thrilled the way it's executed at the moment.

Hey don't say anything negative about WRR you'll get the defenders out of the woodwork!!!!

Daniel

2nd February 2009, 18:26

Just a couple if quick points for your benefit Daniel.

Radio doesn't actually work if the presenters shut up, as you would prefer.

And anyone who knows or who has met colin understands that he is a true fan and his enthusiasm is as far removed from artificial as you can get.

I've met Colin thankyouverymuch :)

Radio works just fine when people don't natter on incessantly and get worked up over just anything. Sure some people like someone who is overly enthusiastic, but a lot of people find it annoying in the extreme.

Woodeye

2nd February 2009, 18:27

I have a feeling that Rally Norway is a different matter steve. And I have feeling Loeb knows it too. I said welcome Rally Norway because there both, Hirvonen and Latvala should go really fast. :up:

That's if they stay on the road. And I'm quite sure that at least the latter won't stay between the snowbanks.

SubaruNorway

2nd February 2009, 18:47

That's if they stay on the road. And I'm quite sure that at least the latter won't stay between the snowbanks.

If he can get trough friday he'Il be ok, on saturday and sunday the snowbanks are so big it's nearly impossible to off :p

iJones

2nd February 2009, 20:13

I have a feeling that Rally Norway is a different matter steve. And I have feeling Loeb knows it too. I said welcome Rally Norway because there both, Hirvonen and Latvala should go really fast. :up:
Loeb is going to win in Norway as well. And besides, it's only one rally. Even if Mikko or J-M wins there it doesn't matter because Loeb wins all the remaining rallies.

A.F.F.

2nd February 2009, 21:39

Loeb is going to win in Norway as well. And besides, it's only one rally. Even if Mikko or J-M wins there it doesn't matter because Loeb wins all the remaining rallies.

Right....

You seem such a merry guy. Can I hang out with you every day for the rest of my life? :D

Brother John

3rd February 2009, 06:17

Right....

You seem such a merry guy. Can I hang out with you every day for the rest of my life? :D

A.F.F Then you have to write more books. :p :

pettersolberg29

3rd February 2009, 14:47

Anyone have any decent pics of Henning - preferebly for desktop backgrounds?

Cheers.

Xsara Fan

3rd February 2009, 15:11

Anyone have any decent pics of Henning - preferebly for desktop backgrounds?

Cheers.

http://www.worldrallypics.com/stobart/

pettersolberg29

3rd February 2009, 15:28

Cheers

iJones

3rd February 2009, 16:15

Right....

You seem such a merry guy. Can I hang out with you every day for the rest of my life? :D
Of course you can. Take a beer from the fridge and come to the living room to watch some pr0n. :D
Seriously, I'd be more than happy to be wrong about Rally Norway and the rest of the season. Only time will tell.

A.F.F.

3rd February 2009, 18:33

Of course you can. Take a beer from the fridge and come to the living room to watch some pr0n. :D
Seriously, I'd be more than happy to be wrong about Rally Norway and the rest of the season. Only time will tell.

Don't worry, time WILL tell. Meanwhile, p0rn please :)

fastboy

3rd February 2009, 21:21

Here is our footage from stage 6 Aughnasheelan where Urmo Aava goes off the road in to the ditch,which was 3 feet deep full of water.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=T_U6KhF339Y

tolis

6th February 2009, 16:09

Hi guys!!!
Does anyone knows if there is any site from which i can download the last stage of the rally??
Thanks in advance!!!

fastboy

6th February 2009, 21:55

Here is some more footage from Rally Ireland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlGXjsSnZbQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuRJxKganMc

Brother John

7th February 2009, 08:11

Don't worry, time WILL tell. Meanwhile, p0rn please :)

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