Official S2000 thread

[TheFlyingTuga]

The Portuguese site http://www.ralis.online.pt, said in one news that Opel had homologated a S2000 Car in February 1st? Does anyone, have info about this? It looks very strange, because why Opel homologate their car, without testing it?And why nobody heard such a thing like Opel was maing a car?

Cheers

[Tom206wrc]

Are you sure it'll be Kronos and not First Motorsport ??? :confused:

Because as Kronos is running for Citroën that seems strange they would also run for Peugeot(even in a different championship) :mark:
By the way I've read Kronos would run IRC this year with two C2 S1600 :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

OK...I found the news on http://www.pitstop.tv ...it's Kronos no doubt ;) ...strange though...

[HaCo]

The Portuguese site http://www.ralis.online.pt, said in one news that Opel had homologated a S2000 Car in February 1st? Does anyone, have info about this? It looks very strange, because why Opel homologate their car, without testing it?And why nobody heard such a thing like Opel was maing a car?

Cheers
Don't you have a link to the article please?

That would be so cool!!!

[HaCo]

OK...I found the news on http://www.pitstop.tv ...it's Kronos no doubt ;) ...strange though...

Sorry, forgot the link... :S Great news anyway!

[TheFlyingTuga]

Here you go HaCo!
http://www.ralis.online.pt/
If it not open, in the news, its the one that have the photo of the Punto!

Meanwhile I remembered that I read a long time ago in a newspaper that entreviewed Jaqcues Regis(I think that is the name) that Opel, MG (Shangai Motors Cmp., and the Malasyans of Proton had asked for the homologation papers! But nothing more than that!

A Corsa in IRC -> Come'ON :D

[HaCo]

Tuga, man that is great news!! Thanks for the link dude! :D

[Captain VXR]

And Vauxhall Corsas for British teams - c'mon :D

[TheFlyingTuga]

Hehe!
About Vauxhall having a S2000 Corsa(Named Nova there isn't it?), you don't know what I passed to find a pic of the Vauxhall Astra KC!
In the time that S2000 started to appear a Portuguese site, that doesn't existes anymore, talk about this new class, and have a pic from the cars, that exists at the time! The Dacia, Punto, Polo, Corolla, and a tinny tinny pic of a Vauxhall that was showed in a Motorshow Festival! There was lack of info, but they said that the car had a 2.o litres engine, and 4WD! I work my ass off to find a pic big enought so I can admired the car, and it was only a KC, but very beautifull indeed!

Well, stop chat, and start again to see if I can find something about this OPEL S2000!

Regards

[HaCo]

*Hup* *Hup* *Hup* Find it!!! ;)

[Tom206wrc]

From belgian site Turbomagazine today, it seems it would be Peter Tsjoen who would have the best chance to drive the Kronos 207 S2000... :mark:

The slowest of the drivers list :(

http://www.turbomagazine.be

[Jarek Z]

I believe in the first gravel rally of the punto, in the IRC, andreucci was complaining about the gearbox to, telling they had nothing to do with it. Still have it on video from rally-action... It's a pitty rally-action is no longer on AB Moteurs, it's by far the best rally program for international, non-WRC rallying!

I don't think this is true. Andreucci didn't compete in IRC last year.

But it's true about Rally Action. It's the best rally programme I have seen in my entire life! Where will it be broadcasted this year?

[1LM1]

The Sadev gear box issue is true. Last year it was a real concern for all manufacturers.

[Buzz Lightyear]

looks like fiat are further pushing s2000
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/56718

[Tom206wrc]

I've read on Rallylink's forum(an italian website) that Alessandro Perico would drive another 207 S2000 on the CIR championship...

Rumour or news ??? :confused:

[HaCo]

I don't think this is true. Andreucci didn't compete in IRC last year.

But it's true about Rally Action. It's the best rally programme I have seen in my entire life! Where will it be broadcasted this year?

I actually meant CIR, sorry... :)

[Captain VXR]

Hehe!
About Vauxhall having a S2000 Corsa(Named Nova there isn't it?), you don't know what I passed to find a pic of the Vauxhall Astra KC!
In the time that S2000 started to appear a Portuguese site, that doesn't existes anymore, talk about this new class, and have a pic from the cars, that exists at the time! The Dacia, Punto, Polo, Corolla, and a tinny tinny pic of a Vauxhall that was showed in a Motorshow Festival! There was lack of info, but they said that the car had a 2.o litres engine, and 4WD! I work my ass off to find a pic big enought so I can admired the car, and it was only a KC, but very beautifull indeed!

Well, stop chat, and start again to see if I can find something about this OPEL S2000!

Regards

They haven't been called Novas since about 1994

[JCarlosPP]

http://www.aifa.pt/FotosG/%7BF3E3D621-066D-4E5E-96B2-85BEEB17DF92%7D.jpg
http://www.aifa.pt/FotosG/%7B7E77657A-1818-4FD8-BDE9-B4B086FE948E%7D.jpg


it look quite pretty :)

[TheFlyingTuga]

JCarlosPP great pics! Good to see our S2000 Pug looks so beauty!

By the way, I sent a email to the reporter that was written about the Opel S2000, and the guy send me back another e-mail, saing that he had made a mistake, he meant to said VW!
I was devastated!

Opel in IRC - C'Mon please

[Tom206wrc]

I like Magalhaes livery !!! :bounce:

[Brother John]

Freddy Loix drive complete Belgium Championship 2007 with polo super 2000 from the stable of René Georges,it´s official! The Belgian VW club, which sits behind the project, at this moment are studied some participations to foreign rallys.
http://www.renegeorges.be/fr/News.asp?lg=2&menunum=15

[Tom206wrc]

So no Loix on the Kronos backed 207 S2000 for IRC, it was obvious to me, I didn't understand why he was quoted on the list of possible drivers ;)

[Tom206wrc]

By the way on another forum I've read that Peugeot Benelux and Kronos has already made their final driver choice and that the name wouldn't be one of the mentionned at all...any news ??? :confused:

[Brother John]

By the way on another forum I've read that Peugeot Benelux and Kronos has already made their final driver choice and that the name wouldn't be one of the mentionned at all...any news ??? :confused:
I let you know when I hear something! :s mokin:

[HaCo]

That pug is beautifull!

[Brother John]

Basso on tests with new Fiat s2000 update!!!

http://www.testrally.com/images/hires07/TestPuntoBasso/images/01.JPG (http://www.testrally.com/images/hires07/TestPuntoBasso/pages/02.htm)

[bigtom]

Hi, i am relatively new to WRC and have only really been getting seriously interested at the end of last season. Although i have had my eye on it for a good few years, i seem to have missed all this s2000 stuff. could somebody explain the purpose of this new class, is it to replace the current WRC cars or run along side/bellow them?

[alleskids]

It could be seen as a new WRCar copncept. Attrack car makes without forcing them to build large amounts of special 4wd, turbo charged, packed with wings etc cars, like the delta HF Integrale, the 205T16. But take an average model from youre range, Polo, Corolla, make it a 4wd car with one standart transmission for all S200 cars, leave the turbo out and you have a S2000 car. It is more or less meant to replace the PWRC class, if I am not mistaken. S2000 is the main actraction for the Intercontinantal Rally Challange.

[bigtom]

So it wont replace the "proper" wrc as such. The works guys will still have turbos and decent cars?

[alleskids]

For the time being, yes. Unless the FIA desides that WRCar is to much becoming a two horse race (Ford and Citroen) were S2000 is attracking a lot of (new) manufacturers. And the costs of the cars will become too high.

[A.F.F.]

So it wont replace the "proper" wrc as such. The works guys will still have turbos and decent cars?

Sit in one S2000 car and I'm sure you'll find it a decent rallycar ;)

[DonJippo]

Sit in one S2000 car and I'm sure you'll find it a decent rallycar ;)

If you like high revs and low torque...

[A.F.F.]

And sound from a mile or more... yes :)

[HaCo]

More news on the Fiesta Super 2000:
http://www.rally.com.au/home/latestnews/articleid=2303

And an interesting video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcK43qZEeA

[Brother John]

Is this the new Fiesta S2000?

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpg

[A.F.F.]

No. That's a red x.


http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Musique/banane_danse-8438.gif

[Captain VXR]

Is this the new Fiesta S2000?

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpg if like me, the picture doesn't work. Looks good :D

[Magnum2300]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpg if like me, the picture doesn't work. Looks good :D

Looks just like Mitsubishi Lancer.

[Captain VXR]

It worked an hour ago :confused:

[Brother John]

No. That's a red x.


http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Musique/banane_danse-8438.gif

IT STILL WORK FÖR ME!!! :bandit:
TRY THIS LINK http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpg

[Jarek Z]

IT STILL WORK FÖR ME!!! :bandit:
TRY THIS LINK http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_novinky/N1v_4576a2656a846.jpg

It does work in Mozilla, but it doesn't work in IE7. At least on my PC.

[Jarek Z]

The car looks very similar to Fiesta S1600, doesn't it? Take a look:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=978&pg_[go]=9

[HaCo]

They used S1600 bodies and put S2000 technology in it...

[Tom206wrc]

Oh GOD !! Bad rumours that Peugeot have really important problems with gearbox reliability on their 207 and would have withdrawn their participation at the Safari rally, 1st event of IRC because of that(they should have entered with Panizzi and another driver if there was no problem)... :(

http://www.ralismadeira.com/?p=196

[1LM1]

I don't understand Sadev and the designers of this gear box.
All S2000 must use the Sadev gear box (in order to cut costs). It's compulsory. Ok. Fine...

But in the end, this gear box happens to be a disaster.
Sadev could have designed a very heavy and reliable gear box. No problem because everybody have the same one. But no, they have chosen to design a fragile one.
This story is pretty hard to sell. :down: :down:

[[WRCRR]]

I don't understand Sadev and the designers of this gear box.
All S2000 must use the Sadev gear box (in order to cut costs). It's compulsory. Ok. Fine...

But in the end, this gear box happens to be a disaster.
Sadev could have designed a very heavy and reliable gear box. No problem because everybody have the same one. But no, they have chosen to design a fragile one.
This story is pretty hard to sell. :down: :down:

Yeah, really stupid and because of this many of the S2000 battles this year will not be decided on the stages but due to retirements because of gearbox problems. Really lame.

[Tom206wrc]

First victim of Sadev this season, Jimmy Joge... :rolleyes:

I've even read that his participation to Vännäs Rally this week-end would depend now if his 207 S2000 is repaired in France(broken gearbox in swedish rally WRC) and ship in time to Sweden... :mark:

[Madeira]

But last season Fiat won the Italian Championship, IRC Championship and European Championship and their cars were really reliable. I never heard any kind of mention about gearbox problems for them. For me this news is only a simple rumour.

[1LM1]

Peugeot were really concerned about this Sadev gear box right from the beginning.
I read an interview about that in March 06. 100 % sure about that.
They said something along those lines: "we don't like standard components and particularly when they are fragile ones. When the car has to retire because of the gear box, our image is at stake but we can not do anything about that."

[Tom206wrc]

Anyway, let's hope the gearbox won't hamper Bruno Magalhaes chances at the Rally Torrié this week-end !!! :mad:

[JAM]

Anyway, let's hope the gearbox won't hamper Bruno Magalhaes chances at the Rally Torrié this week-end !!! :mad:

Well, during the two day tests they had only a oil pressure problem on the engine. But with this problem they had to put the car under a truck to leave it to the service park...

[HaCo]

I don't know, but doesn't the Polo and the Corolla use the gearbox for ages?

FIAT had transmission problems at the start of the season...

[alleskids]

http://www.ircseries.com/html/default.asp the official site for the Intercontinantal Rally Challange

[HaCo]

http://www.ircseries.com/html/default.asp the official site for the Intercontinantal Rally Challange

Also http://www.rally-irc.com :D

[DonJippo]

And front page says A. Alen confirmed for FIAT

[Tom206wrc]

Great website of IRC championship :bounce:

[mdesign]

on Rally of portugal we will have 4 S2000 (1 Fiat, 1 peugeot and 2 toyotas). I guess its the first time we have that many S2000 on a rally of the wrc!

[Captain VXR]

First time more than one :D
Rally GB 2006 Toyota Corolla S2000
Rally Sweden 2007 Peugeot 207 S2000

[Tom206wrc]

Perhaps on Catalunya WRC rally we will have many S2000 cars too :confused:

[Jaanus]

First time more than one :D
Rally GB 2006 Toyota Corolla S2000
Rally Sweden 2007 Peugeot 207 S2000

Rally Turkey 2006 2 Fiat Punto s2000.

[Brother John]

VW Polo S2000 test video!

http://www.cantabriaracing.com/Videos/07/test_alberto_hevia.htm

[pantealex]

[quote="mdesign"]on Rally of portugal we will have 4 S2000 (1 Fiat, 1 peugeot and 2 toyotas).
There is 5 S2000 cars on the list (2Fiat, 1Peugeot and 2Toyota)

[Josti]

And front page says A. Alen confirmed for FIAT

That's just awesome :up:

BTW, any news on the Safari entry list?

[Tom206wrc]

First victim of Sadev this season, Jimmy Joge... :rolleyes:

I've even read that his participation to Vännäs Rally this week-end would depend now if his 207 S2000 is repaired in France(broken gearbox in swedish rally WRC) and ship in time to Sweden... :mark:




Confirmed today !!! No Vännäs rally for Joge this week-end(he dispapeared from the entrylist) !! :down:



I'm even seriously worried about Bruno Magalhaes car reliability at the Torrié rally concerning gearbox too...thank you SADEV !!!! :mad: :mad:

[HaCo]

Guys, don't exaggerate too much. It is a new car and new cars have child desseases... Peugeot will solve it, I am for sure. It's a pitty they didn't see it in tests, but that's live. Some cars take a year in WRC to become reliable. It's a shame for drivers and teams who bought a car, but it is normal on a new car.

FIAT had issues too and they solved it too. I am for sure Peugeot will be able to do it too...

[Madeira]

That's just awesome :up:

BTW, any news on the Safari entry list?

Only next week. The entries are closing today.

http://www.motorsportkenya.com/kcbsafarirally07.htm

[Tom206wrc]

Official, a 207 S2000 for Alessandro Perico and codriver Fabrizio Carrara for the CIR championship in Italy running under the Twister Corse colors... ;)

The car will come from Enjolras Sport in France who will lend some mechanics to the italian team, and the program will be a two years contract(so for 2008 also) :D

News from http://www.sportautomoto.it


Really good news :up:


For those who don't know "Alex" Perico here his website http://www.alessandroperico.com/Homepage.asp he was one of the official Subaru Prodrive Italy drivers in GrN and also drove a Clio S1600 last year...

[A.F.F.]

And front page says A. Alen confirmed for FIAT


Grande tutti fantastico :bounce:

..or something like that :p :

[M5]

Alen in GP will be just super ! Will be very interesting to read how a driver coming both from driving a top Gr N car, and have tried a fullblown WRC car will judge the S2000 category !

Alen and Fiat just belong together !!!!!!

[Captain VXR]

Rally Turkey 2006 2 Fiat Punto s2000.

D'oh

[TheFlyingTuga]

Hey Tom206WRC, don't worry about Bruno Magalhães, he won the Torrié, in front of the Punto of José Pedro Fontes, and António Rodrigues in a Lancer Evo 9 from AR Vidal Racing... the Corolla weren't built in time for the rally :(

Anyway, great performance from Garcia Ojeda in the R3 Pug, that car fly, and Pedro Leal that made an excepcional rally in a Stilo... Multijet!

Cheers

[HaCo]

Oops, as I read the translated the article here translated by babelfish it is well possible that Magalhaes will be disqualified for not follwing the roadbook!!

http://www.pregoafundo.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=240&Itemid=1

COuld be first victory for 207, we have to wait decission of the commision... :S

[Tom206wrc]

Even if Bruno was disqualified, the 207 S2000 would proved to be a very good car able to win, and that reliability(gearbox...) wasn't finally the main problem I feared... ;)

[FAlonso]

The win is confirmed. No worries!

[HaCo]

That means first victory for the 207, he has beaten the Punto also and 5 mins in front of first group N!

[TheFlyingTuga]

Magalhães will not be penalized... after all the organization screw up... not his fault!
The first N car was driven by António Rodrigues, and it's the first time that he had drived a 4WD car in real rally! On top of that, he had driven the Lancer only 50 Km before! For the rest of the season he will drive a Corolla S2000!

Cheers

[HaCo]

That will be a very exciting championship in portugal! Why don't we have this in BELGIUM? :( The RACB, belgian federation, changed the rules and put the Super 2000 in A7 class. We have one Super 2000 with fast freddy (which is fantastic) and some Gr A8's. Maybe also a subby WRC. I would love to see Super 2000 cars fighting for victorys and not seeing drivers win because they have the fastest car...

[Josti]

No S2000's here either. We have to do it with a bunch of WRC's :p :

No serious, It would have been cool to have one or two S2000's overhere...

[animrallye]

That's just awesome :up:

BTW, any news on the Safari entry list?
Entry list is closed from feb 23, and very sad !

46 entries, only 2 S2000 (Fiat) Andrea Navarra and Umberto Scandola, 5 non-african crews.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3057/saf1jd8.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saf1jd8.jpg)http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8051/saf2lg5.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saf2lg5.jpg)http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5889/saf3lc7.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saf3lc7.jpg)

[kabouter]

That's a bit of a disappointment, isn't it... I can understand there aren't any Peugeots - no gravel events before for that car, the Safari might be a bit too much to start with. But why no Corolla or Polo?

The Fiats are the only works-supported cars, but that is no guarantee for success on the Safari. The roads will always be rough, and a very severe test for the Punto S2000.

[Tom206wrc]

But IF this succeeds(both Punto at the end of rally without too many problems)that would prove the S2000 being a great all-round car... ;)

[N.O.T]

Pretty dissapointing entry i must say...especially after all the fuss that was going on about the IRC being the next big thing...hope the european rounds look much much better...

[Brother John]

IRC and WRC do not belong in the Safari!
The teams would be crazy to spoil their budget and cars over there!

[Tom206wrc]

So Fiat is crazy ??? :p :

[Erki]

This is not even true Safari. How can anyone call a rally that has only ~350 competitive km-s a Safari? It should be called Rally Kenya.

[PLuto]

For me it is not so surprise. Most of teams was talking in their plans to miss Safari...

[BDunnell]

This is not even true Safari. How can anyone call a rally that has only ~350 competitive km-s a Safari? It should be called Rally Kenya.

:laugh:

Yes, it's about as much of a safari as going for a weekend away in Paris.

[alleskids]

Freddy Loix' Polo S200 for the Belguium Rally Championship:

[Tom206wrc]

Classic white... ;)

[A.F.F.]

Plus that classic BIG VW logo on the back :up:

[milly]

Apparently, because of all the problems that the teams have had with Sadev gearboxes, FIA is going to allow Xtrac and Ricardo transmissions as well as Sadev.

Teams can choose which ones they want - all at same maximum price.

[1LM1]

Thanks for the news.
Maybe peugeot will choose Xtrac (former partner in WRC) or Ricardo (current partner in the Le Mans Programme).

[Tom206wrc]

Excellent news regarding S2000 gearboxes :up:

[Donney]

Great news a problem solved for the new category!!!!

[JAM]

Apparently, because of all the problems that the teams have had with Sadev gearboxes, FIA is going to allow Xtrac and Ricardo transmissions as well as Sadev.

Teams can choose which ones they want - all at same maximum price.

Ok... just like the cars. Each manufacturer choose the car that want do develop but there is a maximum price. But we all know how the maximum price works, just like with the S1600.

About the transmission and gearbox problems i don't know where is the problem, if in the parts or in the Peugeot. In Portugal the 207 S2000 made a day and a hlf of testing and made this weekend the firts rally with a win. neve had gearbox problems.

[milly]

There was a story somewhere that the Toyota S2000 cars built in South Africa for the Portuguese championship were not homologated.

Does anybody know the exact situation with this? Is this car legal to run or not?

[[WRCRR]]

Toyota and VW programs seem very lackluster compared to those of Peugeot and Fiat. Works program is clearly different from semi-something program...

[Finni]

Excellent news regarding S2000 gearboxes :up:

Peugeot and breaking gearboxes are not new thing. Lol

[Karbonyl]

There was a story somewhere that the Toyota S2000 cars built in South Africa for the Portuguese championship were not homologated.

Does anybody know the exact situation with this? Is this car legal to run or not?The problem was that the previous homologated version had the steering wheel on the right side. The left side-version, that should be originally used in Portugal, didn't have finished homolgation process .

[1LM1]

Peugeot and breaking gearboxes are not new thing. Lol

True but one has to acknowledge that Peugeot was the most ambitious of all manufacturers regarding the gear box development thing.

I mean, the gear box they tried to make working in 2004 and at the end of 2005 was just years ahead of the other ones then. It was very advanced.

In the end, it was too advanced, too ambitious for sure. No way to operate it. :(

[JAM]

The problem was that the previous homologated version had the steering wheel on the right side. The left side-version, that should be originally used in Portugal, didn't have finished homolgation process .


It seems that after March 1st everything will be ok.

[Karbonyl]

It seems that after March 1st everything will be ok.Yep :-)

[Grant_RSA]

]Toyota and VW programs seem very lackluster compared to those of Peugeot and Fiat. Works program is clearly different from semi-something program...

lets see how lacklustre they are when they all come head to head!!! just because the cars werent developed in Europe doesnt mean they are not up to standard!!!

I look forward to you eating your words

[DonJippo]

lets see how lacklustre they are when they all come head to head!!! just because the cars werent developed in Europe doesnt mean they are not up to standard!!!

I look forward to you eating your words

It does not matter where it is done, semi-something is always on lower side compared to full factory effort.

[Grant_RSA]

tell me why it is a semi????????????

these cars were developed by the Factories in South Africa , how fimiliar are all of you with the amount of VW's and Toyota's are supplied worldwide from SA??? virtually all right hand drive cars worldwide!!!!!!!!

You guys need to get facts straight, just because it isnt built in a factory in Germany as in VW's case as far as i am concerned does not make it not a factory car.

I am fairly certain if these projects were not seen as factory efforts both Toyota and VW would have made statements in that respect.

[JAM]

tell me why it is a semi????????????

these cars were developed by the Factories in South Africa , how fimiliar are all of you with the amount of VW's and Toyota's are supplied worldwide from SA??? virtually all right hand drive cars worldwide!!!!!!!!

You guys need to get facts straight, just because it isnt built in a factory in Germany as in VW's case as far as i am concerned does not make it not a factory car.

I am fairly certain if these projects were not seen as factory efforts both Toyota and VW would have made statements in that respect.

Did Polo and Corolla had efforts from the manufacturer? I think not, only from the local deallers. Then, why is Ford Australia giving support to build a S2000 Fiesta with the help of M-Sport? If the local team was so good they wouldn't need M-Sport for nothing. The factory help and support is crucial. I don't have doubts about that.

It's all a question of money, and the factorys have it, private teams don't.

[HaCo]

Bernd Cassier is confirmed to drive the 207 Super 2000 in 5 rounds of the IRC in 2007 with the support of Peugeot Belgium!!!

This is IMO GREAAAAAAT news and I hope he will do some other Belgian events too, challenging Freddy Loix.

This is good news for Belgium: 2 drivers in IRC and who knows next year Duval in a Fabia?? :D :D

[RS]

This is good news for Belgium: 2 drivers in IRC and who knows next year Duval in a Fabia?? :D :D

If First don't buy a 207 S2000 then I can well see Kopecky and Duval doing the test work on the Fabia S2000, then maybe First can run Francois in it to win IRC 2008? :)

[A.F.F.]

Why not in PWRC ?? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Bernd Cassier is confirmed to drive the 207 Super 2000 in 5 rounds of the IRC in 2007 with the support of Peugeot Belgium!!!

This is IMO GREAAAAAAT news and I hope he will do some other Belgian events too, challenging Freddy Loix.

This is good news for Belgium: 2 drivers in IRC and who knows next year Duval in a Fabia?? :D :D



Great choice Bernd Casier !! :bounce:

A french rally mag of january 2007 already brought the news Casier was the driver who had the most chance to be chosen to drive the 207 :p :

[DonJippo]

Why not in PWRC ?? ;)

:up:

[Grant_RSA]

Did Polo and Corolla had efforts from the manufacturer? I think not, only from the local deallers. Then, why is Ford Australia giving support to build a S2000 Fiesta with the help of M-Sport? If the local team was so good they wouldn't need M-Sport for nothing. The factory help and support is crucial. I don't have doubts about that.

It's all a question of money, and the factorys have it, private teams don't.

These cars were developed and built by the factories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not dealers! not a an organisation like M-sport, THE FACTORIES

[JAM]

These cars were developed and built by the factories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not dealers! not a an organisation like M-sport, THE FACTORIES


Did the Toyota Corolla S2000 was developed in Japan or Europe? And the VW Polo was developed in Germany?

By the way, M-Sport is the factory.... they know more about Focus WRC then Ford Motor Company.

[milly]

Don't think M-Sport in UK is involved in the Australian S2000 project. The first car was built by MSport as a S1600 a few years ago and supplied to Astra in Italy.

Britek, in Australia, got the car from them and are trying to fit the 4wd and two-litre engine into that shell. Then they are building their own second shell locally.

Engines are coming from Mountune in UK.

Britek are doing all the engineering work on these cars on their own.

[[WRCRR]]

These cars were developed and built by the factories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not dealers! not a an organisation like M-sport, THE FACTORIES

Chill. I wasn't making any point towards the performance of the Toyota's and VW's compared to those of Peugeot and Fiat. I was just pointing out that the outlook of the programs, and the reach of them (how many cars, in how many countries) is lackluster compared to proper works programs like Peugeot and Fiat. I doesn't matter where the cars are build - what matters is what kind of money is backing the program.

One thing to notice also is that the Corolla is an older model, but the Auris S2000 is (propably) coming soon...it remains to be seen what kind of factory support that project receives. About VW, I dont think they will make a new car - the new Fabia S2000 will be the representing V.A.G in IRC, PWRC and National championships.

Performance wise, in the long run, Peugeot, Fiat and Skoda WILL of course be better and faster. In the short run it may be tighter.

[JAM]

When a manufacturer is openly involved in a project, there is more money and know-how to use with better results. I think this is a question without doubts.

Toyota Corolla and VW Polo didn't have factory support. Corolla is represented in Europe by RED, wich is a company with not know connections to Toyota. Polo is represented by Rene Georges that the only connection to VW was to had bought the VW Polos S1600 from the factory team when VW Motorsport decided to pull out of JWRC.

So, these two cars are not offical projects with no many resources involved on the development. This means that these cars could be not so competitive as Peugeot 207 and Fiat Punto.

I can't see why someone as doubts about that. Note that i wrote ...could be not a competitive as...

[PLuto]

When a manufacturer is openly involved in a project, there is more money and know-how to use with better results. I think this is a question without doubts.

Toyota Corolla and VW Polo didn't have factory support. Corolla is represented in Europe by RED, wich is a company with not know connections to Toyota. Polo is represented by Rene Georges that the only connection to VW was to had bought the VW Polos S1600 from the factory team when VW Motorsport decided to pull out of JWRC.

So, these two cars are not offical projects with no many resources involved on the development. This means that these cars could be not so competitive as Peugeot 207 and Fiat Punto.

I can't see why someone as doubts about that. Note that i wrote ...could be not a competitive as...

These cars werent built with official factory support, only with help by african dealers. But development and nowadays support by factories is other side...

[HaCo]

The new corolla, aurius is coming, that is for sure. And it is factory supported, it is build by TRD, Toyota Racing Development in Australia. http://www.trd.com.au/TRD/#main/motorsport/rally:article=Rally200702S2000

If the brand is involved it is official and in this case, it certainly is. If the car will be fast, we will see. I have no idea how fast australian rally cars are and how good they are in developing them.

What I like so much about IRC: you can see the newest cars driving allready in local championships, that is a lot different from WRC!!

[milly]

Toyota Australia is only doing a local version of the car built by Neal Bates Motorsport - can only be used in national/regional events.

Toyota South Africa car is RunX, which RED imports to Europe. However, no such road RunX exists in Europe so Toyota companies aren't really supporting it, apart from Portugal.

Toyota Motor Corporation - which entered rally in the past with TTE - is not supporting the programmes.

[HaCo]

Are u sure milly?

"It also provides us with more flexibility in where we run - we can use an S2000 car at World Rally Championship events in the Asia-Pacific region or in tarmac rallies if we choose; we were prevented from doing that in the Group N (P)."
These cars WILL be run in international events.

The RunX exists in Europe under the name corolla.

The Lexus SC430 GTC for SuperGT championship is also build by TRD Japan, do you really think it is not supported by Toyota Motor Corporation? Same with the NASCARs in US. It is not because they are build locally, they aren't supported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Racing_Development



Skoda Fabia Super 2000 will be presented in Geneva Autosalon later this month! :D :D :D :D :D

[milly]

TRD Japan is very, very different to TRD Australia.

RunX is not the Corolla - it is a very different car, not sold in Europe. It has been homologated by Toyota South Africa because they make these cars (and trucks) in South Africa and have managed to persuade FIA that they are a manufacturer.

Australia also has a production plant but neither of these cars has been homologated by Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC). TMC Motorsport division is the one that handles Toyota's global motorsports involvement. Australian car can only compete in Asia Pacific region events and nowhere else.

These activities done by Toyota distributors in South Africa and Australia - not by the official global Toyota brand.

[HaCo]

http://www.totalmotorsport.co.za/images/lourens_runx_09_mp_big.jpg
different from:
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/b/55a778c6c3bdbdb1e8f7f2111316d95b.jpg
?


TRD Japan is not TRD Australia is not TRD USA is not TTE, I know that, but they are all supported by... Toyota! :)

[HaCo]

Now have a look at this beauty:

http://www.rally.com.au/data/images/photogallery/large06/trd07_corolla.jpg
http://www.rally.com.au/home/latestnews/articleid=2307


I just hope an European team will pick up this car and make it IRC legal :D

[GlenW]

Here's a clip of the Team TRD Australia Corolla S2000 on a test in December 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-srW2AkzXg

[JAM]

TRD Japan is very, very different to TRD Australia.

RunX is not the Corolla - it is a very different car, not sold in Europe.

They could be different, but not very different, i think they are very similar.

[A.F.F.]

Here's a clip of the Team TRD Australia Corolla S2000 on a test in December 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-srW2AkzXg


Oooh I like the sound :D

[HaCo]

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/images/stories/1March2007/ARCnews/Corolla300.jpg


It's a beauty!!! :D :D :D :D

[milly]

Sorry - was confusing RunX with Auris.

Australian Corolla is Auris.

However, in Europe, the countries don't want to push Corolla, they want to push Auris.

And because TMC doesn't support the TRD decision to homologate Corolla in Australia, the car is only legal for Asia Pacific events. Can only be made legal for European events if TMC homologates Auris.

Just because they are all part of Toyota doesn't mean that they all are centrally controlled. What South Africa and Australia does is not officially supported by TMC - same as RED imports to Europe have no TMC support.

[JAM]

Sorry - was confusing RunX with Auris.

Australian Corolla is Auris.

However, in Europe, the countries don't want to push Corolla, they want to push Auris.

And because TMC doesn't support the TRD decision to homologate Corolla in Australia, the car is only legal for Asia Pacific events. Can only be made legal for European events if TMC homologates Auris.

Just because they are all part of Toyota doesn't mean that they all are centrally controlled. What South Africa and Australia does is not officially supported by TMC - same as RED imports to Europe have no TMC support.

Look at homologations list at FIA site. The Toyota RunX (wich i think is the Corolla) is homologated since 1/12/2006 including the in KSR (VK-S2000-RALLYES). Homologation from South Africa but (i supose) valide to every countries since is on FIA list.

[milly]

RunX can compete anywhere in world (now that left hand drive homologation is done). However, Australian car is called Corolla in Australia, but it is called Auris elsewhere.

Australian car is only homologated under regional homologation.

[JAM]

RunX can compete anywhere in world (now that left hand drive homologation is done). However, Australian car is called Corolla in Australia, but it is called Auris elsewhere.

Australian car is only homologated under regional homologation.


RunX is not the Corolla in Europe?

[SubaruNorway]

We call it corolla in Norway

[JAM]

For me this car Toyota RunsX in South Africa (http://www.toyota.co.za/models/viewrange.aspx?id=runx) is the same as this Corolla in Portugal (http://www.toyota.pt/cars/new_cars/corolla/index.asp).

The Auris is a different car.

In conclusion, the Corolla S2000 already had FIA homologation since the beggining of December 06.

[HaCo]

And the Auris replaces the corolla here in Belgium (Europe), so the new australian car would be a perfect car to market here:
http://nl.toyota.be/cars/new_cars/auris/index.asp

;)

[milly]

RunX is South African hatchback version of Corolla, but with more engine options than in Europe.

In Europe, maximum engine size is 1.6

[JAM]

RunX is South African hatchback version of Corolla, but with more engine options than in Europe.

In Europe, maximum engine size is 1.6

What i wanted to know was if the RunX S2000 homologated was the Corolla S2000 in Europe, nothing else. Now is clear.

[LP]

RunX is South African hatchback version of Corolla, but with more engine options than in Europe.

In Europe, maximum engine size is 1.6

not true, T-Sport version is also available with 1.8 VVTI engine

[alleskids]

Mitsubishi RalliArt Italia is taking on the challange of Peugeot and Fiat in the IRC ?

[Grant_RSA]

just in case there is any confusion or questions as to why the RunX/Corolla was homologated instead of the new Auris, the RunX in S2000 guise has been rallying in SA for 2 years already, its almost gaurenteed they will move over to the new shape once it is released here.

We have the Corolla here as a sedan, this dates back many years and thus they changed the name to RunX

Quick question off the topic, are there any Yaris models running in Europe, this year will see a Yaris in the SA national champs in class A5

[HaCo]

Yes, here in europe there are yaris too. Around a year ago a new yaris was released to replace the very popular previous one.

[Brother John]

First photo from Loix with Polo S2000.

Curent times from Ardenne Bleue Rally in Belgium
http://www.ris-timing.be/rallye/abr/2007/homeresu.htm

http://www.rallylovers.be/imgnieuws/RALLYLOVERS_20070302154837_XL.jpghttp://www.ris-timing.be/rallye/abr/2007/homeresu.htm

[Brother John]

More news from Belgium!
Bernd Casier has the chance to drive a 207 Super 2000 on the IRC this year in cooperation with Peugeot Belgium.

[pino]

Mitsubishi RalliArt Italia is taking on the challange of Peugeot and Fiat in the IRC ?

Yes, that's what they say in Italy :



http://www.italiaracing.net/news.asp?id=1053&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

[alleskids]

Do you, or anybody, have any idea about who will be the drivers, if it is true ?

[pino]

I don't know but I will try to find out for you ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Nicolas Vouilloz who will drive IRC in the Peugeot-Spain team, had a three days test with the 207 :D

Pictures on his website
http://www.nicolasvouilloz.com/

[alleskids]

I don't know but I will try to find out for you ;)


Thanks mate :) :up:

[HaCo]

LOL, apparantly lots of ppl would like to see the test pics... :D :D


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[A.F.F.]

I just love the look of Fast-Freddy's Polo :bounce: :)


http://www.rallylovers.be/imgnieuws/RALLYLOVERS_20070302154837_XL.jpghttp://www.ris-timing.be/rallye/abr/2007/homeresu.htm

[HaCo]

Yeah, the car looks cool!

More pics here:
http://tommeke-rallyfotos.fotopic.net/c1222737.html

[janneppi]

Nicolas Vouilloz who will drive IRC in the Peugeot-Spain team, had a three days test with the 207 :D

Pictures on his website
http://www.nicolasvouilloz.com/
Good for Vouilloz :up:

He's the only driver i could say i'm a fan of, screw Finns, he's the man. :)

[A.F.F.]

Good for Vouilloz :up:

He's the only driver i could say i'm a fan of, screw Finns, he's the man. :)

Well, I could say he is the only cyclist I'm a fan of.

[Madeira]

Andrea Navarra testing in Africa to prepare Rally Safari

http://www.ircseries.com/html/default.asp

[HaCo]

LOL, with Safari BULL bar!! :D

[maevad]

New Fabia S2000!!!

http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/skfa220_45ed139d807ba.jpg

http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/skfa240_45ed139d8c39a.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Nice livery :up:

[WRC1]

omg!!!

i am a biiig skoda fan (i drive a fabia rs) but this is an ugly car....sorry skoda!


i like all the other s2000 cars, they look agressiv and nice, but the new fabia is just ugly....i hope this is only the livery and it will look better in race-livery...

regards

wrc1

[Josti]

The shape reminds me a bit of the Swift S1600. I don't think the car is that good looking either (like the present Fabia look much more), but I think it will look better eventually. Probably still a studymodel...?

[Catiocha7]

Fantastic car ...
Skoda ... I love it :)

[Zamppa]

Good livery, but I really don't like the look of that one...

[SubaruNorway]

looks like a Daihatsu ore Ssangyoung at the front

[Tom206wrc]

Stéphane Sarrazin had a test with the 207 S2000 last week... ;)

But it's unlikely he would drive one on any rally this year, regarding his intensive program to prepare le Mans and LMS with the 908... :mark:

Pictures on:
http://www.forum-peugeot.com/Forum/forum-peugeot/Sports/Rallye/peugeot-super-2000-sujet_22334_9.htm

[Donney]

The Skoda looks great!!! The front lights could be bettered but other than that...

[Marshall]

Wow the glasshouse looks so much like the Suzuki Swift. Rest looks sorta cool...especially the rear.

[maevad]

http://motozurnal.centrum.cz/img/photo/9/9/469.jpg

[A.F.F.]

That Fabia is almost as good looking as my Octavia ;)

Anyways... I'm all for Skoda S2000 now :up: :D :hot:

[PetrWRC]

Other photos Škoda Fabia S2000 from Geneva here:
http://www.autorevue.cz/default.aspx?section=17&server=1&article=11387

[JAM]

The official site:

http://www.skoda-auto.com/global/model/concepts/s2000/home.htm

[sal]

I now have two Skodas and would have no problem making it a third with one of these!

[RS]

I think it looks good, as agressive as the old Fabia WRC, but not quite as "pretty"

http://motozurnal.centrum.cz/img/photo/9/9/476.jpg

http://motozurnal.centrum.cz/img/photo/9/9/471.jpg

[Captain VXR]

New Fabia S2000!!!

http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/skfa220_45ed139d807ba.jpg

http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/skfa240_45ed139d8c39a.jpg


http://motozurnal.centrum.cz/img/photo/9/9/469.jpg


I think it looks good, as agressive as the old Fabia WRC, but not quite as "pretty"

http://motozurnal.centrum.cz/img/photo/9/9/476.jpg

http://motozurnal.centrum.cz/img/photo/9/9/471.jpg

Very nice looking there

[Madeira]

Today in Eurosport, season preview of IRC. 23.30

Tv-times for Safari Rally

http://www.ircseries.com/html/Tv_times.asp

[HaCo]

VERY Cool! I hope this will make Skoda win some rallys!! With Duval of course!!! :D :D :D

[A.F.F.]

VERY Cool! I hope this will make Skoda win some rallys!! With Duval of course!!! :D :D :D



No no no no. With Paasonen :D :D

[teufel]

No no no no. With Paasonen :D :D

For testing the rollcage? ;)

[Josti]

For testing the rollcage? ;)

You have balls :p :

No, I would also prefer a driver like Duval for this seat. Maybe an involvement with Skoda Motorsport isn't such a bad idea for him, but let's wait how his result will be this year.

[DonJippo]

Today in Eurosport, season preview of IRC. 23.30

Tv-times for Safari Rally

http://www.ircseries.com/html/Tv_times.asp

What did happen to 8 hours TV time per event.... :rolleyes:

[Zamppa]

I see about 6 hours in Eurosport.com scheldules, including the season previews. Interestingly enough, there are three 15 minute broadcasts in half an hour intervals on saturday night and again on monday morning. Reruns galore anyone?

[teufel]

You have balls :p :

No, I would also prefer a driver like Duval for this seat. Maybe an involvement with Skoda Motorsport isn't such a bad idea for him, but let's wait how his result will be this year.

Btw, if I should choose between Duval and Paasonen, I'd choose Jani...

[HaCo]

It's about time IRC gets its own thread. Right now everything is thrown in this thread and finding something is very hard...

[A.F.F.]

For testing the rollcage? ;)

:laugh: :up:

Hey, it's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.

[Wim_Impreza]

In Rallye de Hannut in Belgium this sunday, local hero Jean-Yves Laruelle will drive a Volkswagen Polo Super 2000.

[JAM]

In Portugal the team that was planning to run two Toyota Corolla S2000 give up the project. According to them, the car should had been homologoted with left hand in March 1st but that didn't happen...

[Tom206wrc]

Bad news for Portugal... :(

[Josti]

In Rallye de Hannut in Belgium this sunday, local hero Jean-Yves Laruelle will drive a Volkswagen Polo Super 2000.

In Freddy's one?

[Wim_Impreza]

In Freddy's one?

Not in Freddy's one, but it will be one of René Georges Rally Sport too.

[Tom206wrc]

What happens with the S2000 project of Peugeot Sweden(and Jimmy Joge) ??? :confused:

It seems this week-end is the 2nd round of swedish rallies championship and Joge isn't on the entry neither... :mark:

[LeonBrooke]

I don't know about the Skoda Fabia... it looks too much like a show car, but in competition liver I'm sure it'll look great :)

[PLuto]

I don't know about the Skoda Fabia... it looks too much like a show car, but in competition liver I'm sure it'll look great :)

It was only show car, they wanted to present that car on this motor show, but this version is only for watching, not competing :-)

[LeonBrooke]

Cars always look better in competition, and when in motion rather than in still photos. It should be great to watch, even if it's not that competitive :)

[JAM]

What happens with the S2000 project of Peugeot Sweden(and Jimmy Joge) ??? :confused:

It seems this week-end is the 2nd round of swedish rallies championship and Joge isn't on the entry neither... :mark:


Gearbox?

[raybak]

Apparently there is a shortage of gearboxes at the moment, this could be stopping Jimmy joge from getting his car out there.

BTW that Skoda does look good. Talks have already begun to get one out here for the ARC in 2008.

Ray

[Tom206wrc]

Sadev hasn't got any gearboxes in stock anymore ???? :s

[JAM]

Sadev hasn't got any gearboxes in stock anymore ???? :s

I start thinjking that the problem is on certain Peugeot 207 and not on the gearbox. The portuguese 207S2000 made a day and a half of testing and a rally without any problem in terms of transmission or gearbox. I think that Jummy Joge's car must have a deep problem... Nicolas Vouilloz made a test and verything seemed ok with his new 207.

[Brother John]

In Rallye de Hannut in Belgium this sunday, local hero Jean-Yves Laruelle will drive a Volkswagen Polo Super 2000.


In Freddy's one?

Yes It is the same car that Freddy used and was used in Polen!!!

Looks like the team has only one car!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

http://rp003.free.fr/photos/20070310230608.jpg

[M5]

It is not Freddies, but Rene's. Rene Georges that is, and it could be yours as well if you wanted to rent it for a rally !!! :-)

[Brother John]

It is not Freddies, but Rene's. Rene Georges that is, and it could be yours as well if you wanted to rent it for a rally !!! :-)

I mean It´s always the same car, thats all! Rene Georges, the official trader for Europe S2000 VW polo! :eek: What a big joke! :rolleyes:

[giangino]

Photos Rally del Ciocco! Fiat Punto S2000 Basso - Peugeot 207 S2000 Rossetti
http://www.avetowrc.com/Index/Index2.htm

[Tom206wrc]

It seems there will be a new 207 S2000 in 2008 on scandinavian roads... :)

Peugeot Norway would have ordered one that they would receive by the end of this year(who would drive it?? Anders Kjaer??)... ;)

[HaCo]

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/images/stories/1March2007/ARCnews/Michelin300.jpg

[N.O.T]

the new fiesta s2000 ??

[Brother John]

Why do so many drivers choose for S2000?
Where are the drivers which that no longer found a place ore sponsor money in WRC and why?
The answer is easy, S2000 is cheaper and IRC ore country championship is more intrested for PR!
Look @ all this potential wrc drivers!

Sarrazin
Panizzi
Rovanperä
Kresta
Warmbold
Loix
Duval
Meeke
Wilks
Higgins
and so maney more...................Start to think about, how the wrc look forward there at present time!
Do we want to look still years to 2 a 3 drivers for the win in each WRC rally?

Just a couple things where I was thinking about! What do you think about this evolution in rally sport?

[N.O.T]

IRC for the moment is a good solution for the failures and the has beens of the WRC...nothing more...i cannot see a future as far as talent production is concerned

[Addicted]

One big problem at the moment seems to be that manufacturers can`t deliver already ordered cars in time.

[Rally Hokkaido]

There is yet another Punto S2000. This one is entered in next month's Rallye de Nouvelle Caledonie - 1st round of the FIA Asia-Pacific Rally Championship. The driver is listed as Gael Lecerf. Nationality is French, probably a local Caledonian.
Does anyone know if Gael is a female first name (accent over the e)?

[bowler]

male

[jparker]

IRC for the moment is a good solution for the failures and the has beens of the WRC...nothing more...i cannot see a future as far as talent production is concerned

I disagree with you N.O.T. Currently technology plays the main role in path of success, not drivers. However, more power for S2000 cars won't hurt, something similar to Open class in North America will be nice, lots of horses but nothing fancy.

[Rally Hokkaido]

male

Thanks, bowler-san.
And co-driver, Yvon ... is also male, if I recall my scholdays French correctly.

[HaCo]

I'm looking forward to first test videos of Skoda S2000! Any news on this beast? :D

[RS]

IRC for the moment is a good solution for the failures and the has beens of the WRC...nothing more...i cannot see a future as far as talent production is concerned

Hmmm, but WRC is full of pay drivers and rich boys too.

I would have thought IRC will be good for future talent. Cheaper than doing WRC and more exposure than national or European championships.

[HaCo]

http://www.rally.com.au/data/images/photogallery/large07/rq07/rq07_shake_06.jpg

http://www.rally.com.au/data/images/photogallery/large07/rq07/rq07_shake_02.jpg

http://www.rally.com.au/data/images/photogallery/large07/rq07/rq07_shake_03.jpg

http://www.rally.com.au/data/images/photogallery/large07/rq07/rq07_shake_05.jpg

[HaCo]

http://www.rally.com.au/data/images/photogallery/large07/rq07/rq07_shake_09.jpg

I really hope we will see this car in Europe. It would be really interesting for fans and for Ford to promote its Fiesta in local championships, just hope Ford will do it!!


Pics come from: http://www.rally.com.au/home/gallery
This weekend is first round of Australian Championship, we will see how good the Fiesta is against the Corolla Super 2000 and the different N4's that are there too...

[A.F.F.]

That's nice looking too. :up:

[malscar]

Might look nice, but after the first day of competition, it does have a few problems. Mind you so did the S2000 Toyota.

[Racing Ka]

Results / SS times somewhere?

[eppel]

What a time for Magalhaes on SS8. Faster than Galli ++

Go S2000!

[HaCo]

Here are the results of Australia:
http://www.rally.com.au/season07/results07

[Tom206wrc]

What a time for Magalhaes on SS8. Faster than Galli ++

Go S2000!




After leg 2, despite his 10 minutes penalty(superrally) Magalhaes is back 3rd overall in GrN behind Patrick Flodin and Rui Madeira... ;)


But why did José Pedro Fontès retired in Portugal in his Fiat Grande Punto S2000 ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

After leg 2, despite his 10 minutes penalty(superrally) Magalhaes is back 3rd overall in GrN behind Patrick Flodin and Rui Madeira... ;)


But why did José Pedro Fontès retired in Portugal in his Fiat Grande Punto S2000 ??? :confused:

He had suspension problems, He will try to start tomorrow!

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Madeira... ;)

[M5]

Magalhaes/ Graves has driven well this weekend.

They went off on SS6 and did not drive SS7.
For the rest of the rally they did:
11 fastest times, 4 2nd fastest and a third fastest in GR N.

They ended up in 3rd, 1 min 59 sek behind the winner Flodin, and 25 sek behind number two - thats not a bad start, and clearly shows that the car has a lot of potential !!!

[1LM1]

That's right, great performance from Magalhaes. Now we know that the 207 S2000 is very fast.
Apparently, in the last stages of Saturday and Sunday, he chose to take no risks in order to score points in the Portuguese championship (each day was a new round of the Portuguese championship). that's why he wasn't fastest in Gr. N in every stage.
When pushing, he set some impressive times. :up:

[Tom206wrc]

Magalhaes/ Graves has driven well this weekend.

They went off on SS6 and did not drive SS7.





Mistake !! They didn't go off, the SADEV made gearbox has broken one more time :mark:

[M5]

Ok, my mistake - but the car shows greate promise !!


But the french boxes, are starting to become a problem.

[Karbonyl]

Not became, they already ARE a problem fom the beginning of this group. E.G. one of the reasons, why project of Logan S2000 two years ago was stopped...

[milly]

Gearbox problems are why FIA is allowing others to supply the gearboxes in future - Ricardo is one.

[Brother John]

They should use a real gearbox like group N.

[calibr]

They should use a real gearbox like group N.

Real gearbox?

There is Gr. N and there is "Gr.N".

Somebody uses Ricardo and other uses "phankel" or how they say it.

And Ricardo is not a good enough gearbox thought.

[milly]

Xtrac and Ricardo will be the other gearbox suppliers.

[MadCat]

They should use a real gearbox like group N.

Technically Group N don't use a 'real gearbox'. IMO, a real gearbox uses a clutch to change gear whereas most Group N cars now use a 'dog box' which doesnt require a clutch to change gear, its not a neccessity.

[HaCo]

First victory for the VW Polo S2000, with "Fast Freddy" Loix behind the wheel in TAC Rally in Tielt, Belgian Chamionship Round 2:
http://www.tacrally.be/v3/a_images/fotoboek/015.jpg

[Brother John]

First win for Freddy Loix with the VW Polo S2000 in Belgium Championship, TAC Rally!
Fotos on this forum!
http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=7&page=102

http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=7&page=104

[Brother John]

First win for Freddy Loix with the VW Polo S2000 in Belgium Championship, TAC Rally!
Fotos on this forum!
http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=7&page=102

http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=7&page=104

Results!
1. F. Loix/R. Buysmans - Volkswagen Polo S2000 1:24:54.7 Stunden,
2. L. Cols/Dejalle - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII group A + 58.6 Sekunden,
3. P. Tsjoen/E. Chevalier - Fiat Grande Punto S2000 + 1:09.0 Minuten
4. P. Desmet/F. Beel - Toyota Corolla WRC + 1:54.0,
5. C. Van Woensel/R. Snaet - Nissan 350 Z + 2:57.5
6. K. Princen/B. Eelbode - Renault Clio R3 + 3:09.8
7. P. Lietaer/S. Libbrecht - Subaru Impreza group A +4:44.3
8. P. Barbier/B. Descamps - Mitsubishi Carisma GT Gr. N +7:17.3

[HaCo]

@Brother John: I was faster then you... ;) :D ;)

More photos and video in the National Championships thread in the European Rallys thread!

[HaCo]

Very good looking car, ready for Brittish championship:
http://www.redworldrally.com/news/tarmac_spec2.jpg

[Erki]

Is McRae(I assume Alister) going to do both NZRC and BRC?

[HaCo]

Is McRae(I assume Alister) going to do both NZRC and BRC?

This article states only Higgins will do BRC:
http://www.redworldrally.com/newsdetails.php?NewsID=96&NewsID2=96&SectionID=3&SectionName=NEWS

Hope to see this car in IRC/ERC too and of course in other championships... :)

[A.F.F.]

Very good looking car, ready for Brittish championship:
http://www.redworldrally.com/news/tarmac_spec2.jpg

I agree. the first edition of Toyota's S2000 looked like my mom's shopping car. Now, it looks like a rally car :up:

[HaCo]

Crazy sound of Fiesta Super 2000:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmOhXAA6U6o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q355WBW5kc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0RTEOr-3Q8

[Tom206wrc]

Julien Pressac preparing the rallye Terre d'Auxerre this week-end... ;)

http://www.rallye-infotony.com/photos_essais_207_julien_pressac_6186.htm

[teufel]

Janos Tóth had some testing last week and yesterday, but the session was closed soon, as the gearbox failed yesterday after only 3 runs.
How is the current gearbox-situation now? Only sadev allowed? This is not the first pug gearbox failure in my mind.

[raybak]

Seems the main weakness in all the S2000 cars is the Sadev gearbox. Sadev had technicians on hand in Australia for the first round of the championship, maybe they were expecting problems.

Ray

[Tom206wrc]

Janos Tóth had some testing last week and yesterday, but the session was closed soon, as the gearbox failed yesterday after only 3 runs.
How is the current gearbox-situation now? Only sadev allowed? This is not the first pug gearbox failure in my mind.




:mad:

[GigiGalliNo1]

The fiesta in Oz rally champs sounds like a beast and looks like one too! Corolla S2000 looks good, I wanna see these more and then give my opinion but it looks so far so good, waiting for the next IRC round!

[I am evil Homer]

Why are Toyota using a Corolla when the Auris has repalced it in the showroom?

Loix's Polo looks amazing...better than most WRC cars.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Auris is yet to be released in Australia/NZ as the new Corolla! We're keeping it as Corolla because it is the no.1 sold car in Australia for the past 2 years and outsold many others! And it's been around for some time!

[raybak]

The Fiesta's might sound a bit quieter in WA, they were a bit too loud in QLD apparently they were well over the 96Db limit even at idle.

Ray

[HaCo]

The Fiesta's might sound a bit quieter in WA, they were a bit too loud in QLD apparently they were well over the 96Db limit even at idle.

Ray

LOL :D :D

[JM]

They're probably still over 96db with your helmet on! By far the loudest rally car I've been in. Had many fans coming up to us telling us how awesome the car sounded in the forest, especially the thunderous boom of the ignition cut on gear change. Commentators said it was scaring young children in the forest spectator points :D

We've been told they're too loud but fitting a decent sized muffler is a problem due to the lack of room in the floor pan.

[raybak]

Welcome to the forums John. Good to see another nav on here.

Ray