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    GM/Opel/Vauxhall...

    Having recently been watching DVD's /Videos of 70's/80's Rallying was noticable quite a few GM cars taking part, compared to now. No official works teams even at National level. Do GM have a problem with the sport. Seeing as GM see themselves as Ford's big rival, why don't they try to compete against them, imagine an Astra WRC, shame.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC
    Having recently been watching DVD's /Videos of 70's/80's Rallying was noticable quite a few GM cars taking part, compared to now. No official works teams even at National level. Do GM have a problem with the sport. Seeing as GM see themselves as Ford's big rival, why don't they try to compete against them, imagine an Astra WRC, shame.
    They decided that there are other forms of being presents cheapper and more effcient that rallying. Nowadays rallying is expensive and have less media atention than other cheapper sports.

    GM is on WTCC with Chevrolet.
    Three gears are enough!

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    And how relevant is Chevrolet to the European market. Neither Vauxhall or Opel are in a World Championship, are they?
    Personally I just think they are cheapskates...

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC
    And how relevant is Chevrolet to the European market. .
    Chevrolet (pronounced Daewoo) is GM's attempt on cheaper car market in Europe, and probably very important for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COD
    Chevrolet (pronounced Daewoo) is GM's attempt on cheaper car market in Europe, and probably very important for them.
    Yes, and maybe are trying to win market share.
    Three gears are enough!

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    Opel should build a Corsa S2000 (let it build by Vauxhall in GB, like the Astra Kit Car). Rally is not THAT expensive, only WRC is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaCo
    Opel should build a Corsa S2000 (let it build by Vauxhall in GB, like the Astra Kit Car). Rally is not THAT expensive, only WRC is!
    Running a 2 car WRC team costs between 40-95 million. You can get up to 500 million viewers on TV and a couple hundred thousand on the stages with 12-16 races hauling all of your crap all over the globe.

    You can run a NASCAR car in the Nextel Cup for 20-45 million a car, have 3x races, be part of a TV empire (in the US there are at least 3 hours of NASCAR programming per day on TV), and part of a TV package that is worth over $600 million/yr. As a manufacturer you can be involved with 5, 10, 20, or more teams and you only have to provide basic silhouettes and motor development/engineering and still get all the branding returns.

    Rally isn't that expensive, the real costs are the scale of the returns which many other racing series can better relative to the costs.
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    Vauxhall never have been serious about rallying and yes they do seem to have tight arses!!!
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    L5, thank you for your analyse, very interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ste898
    Vauxhall never have been serious about rallying and yes they do seem to have tight arses!!!
    they must still be virgins!
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