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Thread: Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-)
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18th October 2021, 16:36 #301
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more power and more sideways hopefully
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18th October 2021, 16:41 #302
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18th October 2021, 17:07 #303
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With such complicated new cars i fear we may see complete dominance from one team.
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18th October 2021, 17:30 #304
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At the start of the current car era engineers (thing it was people from MSport) predicted how they will develop rather well.
a) people will copy each others cars - this was mostly in aero terms
b) finetuning the setup for every stage/road
This b) was what made MSport irrelevant lately cause they didn't have money for all that testing.
With new car it shouldn't be possible to finetune as much (no center diff, simpler front/rear ones).
So while there might be bigger gaps between the cars at first, it is less likely tons of money will matter as much later on.
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18th October 2021, 19:51 #305
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I fear we could see a case like f1 in 2014 and 15, when mercedes won 16 out of 19 races. Or even like 2016 when they won 19 out of 21. Even hundered of millions couldn't fix that.
We loose some old technology that the teams have mastered, but we get the whole unknown hybrid system. Unlike aero, this can't copied easily.
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18th October 2021, 20:05 #306
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I've said this before, it's all unknown. Everyone makes new cars. In 2017 we didn't know what to expect. Everyone thought Citroen is the best and Toyota the worst, but it turned out exactly opposite, and with very small margins, with four first rallies won by different cars. I can only hope the same happens now. It seems M-Sport has advanced the most while Hyundai is struggling, with rumors of a big rebuild after the first public tests, and the worried comments of Tänak and Neuville seem to confirm that rumor.
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18th October 2021, 20:06 #307
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18th October 2021, 20:10 #308
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Yes, the cars are much more bound by the rules than those of today and they will be even more similar to each other.
I would personally welcome much more technical freedom. IMHO it's not going against efforts to cut cost (which is questionable anyway). For me it takes much more time and money to make one same thing better than the other than to come with some new ideas others didn't try. Moreover it makes thingsmuch more intweresting and exciting for me (I understand that not for everyone).Last edited by Mirek; 18th October 2021 at 20:14.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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18th October 2021, 21:07 #309
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19th October 2021, 09:58 #310
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With all this talk about how the Rally1-cars are like the Rally2-cars but with more power, a bit more aero and the hybrid-element...
Wouldn't it make more sense in the long term for the teams to have the developing drivers do more time driving Rally2? No center-diff or active diffs, less aero, 5-speed with stick... Especially Oliver Solberg, but also Katsuta.
The young drivers might also, in the long term, be a better choice due to how easy or hard it might be to cope with how to use the hybrid-system. Sordo, due to his age, might not clic that fast despite his experience. But I might be wrong.
You're a 100% right. FIA should rattle the manufacturer's cage. Take the compromise or go. Rally 1s are dead in the water. If manufacturers don't agree, make Rally 2s as they are now the top category...
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