[WRC] XION Rally Argentina | 25th - 28th April

[dimviii]

Loeb is still the greatest for me, but let's keep in mind Ogier has packed six in a row in an era that is far more competitive than Loeb's Championship years were .

yes these 4 years (out of the six championships) with vw, the competition was extremely high.lol

[Tarmop]

yes these 4 years (out of the six championships) with vw, the competition was extremely high.lol

I would say, that Ogier has met similar competition to Loeb`s in the current generation only, whereas Loeb had the likes of Märtin, Grönholm, Hirvonen, Sainz, Mcrae, Mäkinen and others to compete with...so yeah, makes sense, if you switch the names.

[steve.mandzij]

I would say, that Ogier has met similar competition to Loeb`s in the current generation only, whereas Loeb had the likes of Märtin, Grönholm, Hirvonen, Sainz, Mcrae, Mäkinen and others to compete with...so yeah, makes sense, if you switch the names.

Latvala was always a worthy competitor to Ogier, even if he either crashed himself or had the car crash him out of his VW campaigns.

Loeb mostly had competition from Gronholm and Hirvonen, while the rest were quite old already (and Martin retired very early on).

[Tarmop]

Can`t argue, but can`t agree also...
2003, ok, he lost to Solberg with 1 point and in general, the top was together until the end...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_W...y_Championship
2004 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_W...y_Championship
and the list goes on and on. In any case, Ogier has had competition from 1, max. 2 guys before, still each time he was crowned champion 2-3 rallies before the end. Today he also has competition from...two guys, with the exception that the fight goes further, even until the last stages of the season.

[dimviii]

Latvala was always a worthy competitor to Ogier, even if he either crashed himself or had the car crash him out of his VW campaigns.

worthy competitor?
2016 Ogier 268 points Latvala 112
2015 Ogier 263 Latvala 183
2014 Ogier 267 Latvala 218
2013 Ogier 290 Latvala 162

Loeb mostly had competition from Gronholm and Hirvonen, while the rest were quite old already (and Martin retired very early on).

Only Sainz was ''old''

[AnttiK7]

Nothing away from master Loeb, but I think there is no dispute that WRC has been more competitive from 2017 onwards at least than in any of Loeb's Championship years. Sainz, Mäkinen & McRae were not Loeb's era really, but the previous era that was bowing out as Loeb was getting in to his stride. Still, Loeb would have probably won those titles anyway, no matter what the competition. But the way I remember it, WRC in about 2006-2009 was really depressing and it wasn't because of Loeb's domination, but because the level of competition was really poor compared to the preceding era and even the cars were more boring than in the previous or following era. I'd say we are definitely living a golden era again and let's enjoy it while it lasts.

[AnttiK7]

Yesterday's gate-gate brought a little flashback into my mind. Nothing new about Argentina & roadbook confusions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyNy4grO04E&t=6m30s

[wrc2017]

imagine ogier has committed to right hand gate'as he almost did, and hit gate with left wheel, instead or right.. and continued with broken power steering. would citroen still have complained. Citroen's only focus was to gain road position of day 3.. and the FIA obliged.

[Rally Power]

I bet people are now wishing they went after Seb when he forgot his time card in Sardignia...

Like Mr. Wilson answered then: what time card?

Again: people shouldn’t blame Ogier; they should blame the FIA for starting to penalize corners cutting or artificial barriers hitting. This is rally, not circuit racing and improvisation should be part of the driving.

[Jarek Z]

Yesterday's gate-gate brought a little flashback into my mind. Nothing new about Argentina & roadbook confusions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyNy4grO04E&t=6m30s

Wow! Great video, thanks for finding it and posting.