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    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    I know, I can't help it... I'm stupid, I know, but I just have to reply to this one last comment.

    Tell me what is not correct in my quote:

    "Two wins, one 2nd place, two crashes"

    RMC = win #1
    Sweden = 2nd place
    Argentina = win #2
    France = crash
    RMC = crash

    Let's see how Ogier fared on the very same 5 events

    RMC = 2nd place #1
    Sweden = win #1
    Argentina = 2nd place #2
    France = win #2
    RMC = 1st (for now)

    That doesn't look well for your hero...

    You know, I'm just exaggerating. I'm not saying one is better than the other or that Loeb isn't a worthy Champion, on the contrary. I just would've loved to see them competing in a full 2013 season.

    And how I feel about Loeb's selfishness is well documented in my last posts.

    I think Citroen doesn't do his drivers any good in letting them compete with a retired 41 year old Legend who is way faster than them. It just knocks off their confidence, which already wasn't at very high levels...
    you are comparing a 30 year old Ogier with a 40 year old Loeb...

    not very nice and to be honest if you take into account all the parameters Ogier looks like a smelly doggy by those results....

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    Enough Loeb/Ogier talk. It's the only downside of Loeb entering an event, having all this nonsense here. I'm happy Loeb participated, he made the fight for the lead interesting for half of the rally, at least. It's sad to see how big the difference between Ogier and all others is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eib1 View Post
    I really fear for his safety. He should focus on gaining experience, not on winning stages. One small step at the time would serve him right and keep him off the ditches.
    Viola ad oltranza...

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    Let's hope that is his plan for tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eib1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mariusz View Post
    Onboards of Loeb and Meeke crashes: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/vide...112--80--.html
    that citroen must have some really weak suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Enough Loeb/Ogier talk. It's the only downside of Loeb entering an event, having all this nonsense here. I'm happy Loeb participated, he made the fight for the lead interesting for half of the rally, at least. It's sad to see how big the difference between Ogier and all others is...
    Rightly said, We're Rally fans here and should discuss the event itself, it is great so far I believe.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    past few pages are permeated with Loebophobia post as marked at bottom like: "Likes: SlowSon (Today),Zeropt (Today) ". Still miss someone, but they neverliked such posts.
    Take pills, your hero was beaten many times. And his a champion only with cheat car and that current WRC championship so poor for talants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    I know, I can't help it... I'm stupid,I know, but I just have to reply to this one last comment.
    cant help you at this mate.Sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    Tell me what is not correct in my quote:

    "Two wins, one 2nd place, two crashes"

    RMC = win #1
    Sweden = 2nd place
    Argentina = win #2
    France = crash
    RMC = crash

    Let's see how Ogier fared on the very same 5 events

    RMC = 2nd place #1
    Sweden = win #1
    Argentina = 2nd place #2
    France = win #2
    RMC = 1st (for now)

    That doesn't look well for your hero...
    of course they look good,not only good but excellent.
    Loeb was able to fight at all rallies for win even when he was retired.Ogier at his peak couldn t.He was slow and through white towel at 2 rallies.All these with a retired dont forget it.When Loeb was active there is no compare with anybody.
    We always can compare both of them at last year at citroen with same car if you prefer.Even if he was Quesnels favour driver.
    Thats facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    You know, I'm just exaggerating. I'm not saying one is better than the other or that Loeb isn't a worthy Champion, on the contrary. I just would've loved to see them competing in a full 2013 season.
    you are right,big pitty that Ogier run away at lower class.
    But why you dont compare them at Ogiers last year at citroen with same car?
    i mean this year when Loeb he was starting 1st at ALL gravel rallies.Yes the year with Ogiers girly tricks with Quesnel.




    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    And how I feel about Loeb's selfishness is well documented in my last posts.
    thats your opinion and not documents,an opinion that almost all rally fans dont agree.
    Thats why at Ogiers hometown most fans are at Citroen stant to see and take an autograph from Maestro and NOT from Ogier.
    If we read and stage stops quotes we will see who is selfish and who is humble.

    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    I think Citroen doesn't do his drivers any good in letting them compete with a retired 41 year old Legend who is way faster than them. It just knocks off their confidence, which already wasn't at very high levels...
    what do you think doesnt care anybody.

    you really can t try harder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    past few pages are permeated with Loebophobia post as marked at bottom like: "Likes: SlowSon (Today),Zeropt (Today) ". Still miss someone, but they neverliked such posts.
    Take pills, your hero was beaten many times. And his a champion only with cheat car and that current WRC championship so poor for talants.
    Are we done with Loebomania? Until next time, in Germany, Corsica perhaps......
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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