Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

**smsgrafica** · 23rd January 2015, 20:09

Originally Posted by N.O.T

i do not think the others drivers cared much about the fight for the top... it is cruising speed for all now.

Neither do I, like I said previously, shame on them! All just chickening until RMC is over.

There's a reason why it's one of the most important motorsport events in the World!

**stefanvv** · 23rd January 2015, 20:10

Originally Posted by Rallyper

I think everyone is kind of frustraded the way RMC happened to go. Let´s enjoy and hope we´ll have some competition before end of rally.

Oh, yeah, plenty of competition tomorrow, from 3rd to 6th place nothing is certain, some competition in WRC2. Unfortunately in RGT everything seems calm, but I think Delecour would win it anyway here in Monte.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 23rd January 2015, 20:12

World Rally Blog:
Wait, super rally crews start first tomorrow?
I know... Deep cuts and snow on the road for Ogier, eh Mr Loeb ?

**drive** · 23rd January 2015, 20:12

Originally Posted by N.O.T

i do not think the others drivers cared much about the fight for the top... it is cruising speed for all now.

so true, and even if vw are on 1-3, the rest of points are still for grabs - everyone should take a look at timesheets and concentrate on watching/enjoying this rally, and stop complaining Seb V Seb - its over for now... till next time

**dimviii** · 23rd January 2015, 20:15

Originally Posted by smsgrafica

Ogier just wanted to have the same chances, which he didn't have at Citroen. Therefore he left for VW, which was and is the only car who could've/can compete against Citroen.

listen now the facts.Ogier was favoured from Quesnel against Loeb,their 7 times world champion.
Closed gps sensors at Acropolis and other girly things.Even with these girly tricks,Loeb destroyed them both and took his 7th championship .Then Ogier run away to vw,and he did well because at citroen he wouldn t be champion against Loeb.He wasnt ready for No1 and we all saw it.

Originally Posted by smsgrafica

Loeb is selfish in his guest starts, because IF you just want to have fun, than you compete with a private team, not taking away car, mechanics and manufacturer's points attribution from regular drivers. You really don't think they are unaffected by Loeb's presence, do you? You think Ostberg is happy to be the odd man out?

listen some truth now.
Loeb was being invited from Citroen for Monte.He didn t ask for it.
About Mads...thats life mate if you cant do the job your boss will hire somebody else.
Its not easy mate,specially at world championship level

try harder.

**pino** · 23rd January 2015, 20:15

Very sad about those big retirements (especially Kubica). No one will stop Ogier now, so the excitement is over !

**smsgrafica** · 23rd January 2015, 20:21

Originally Posted by dimviii

no you dont say exactly what happened.
At Monte was faster and with big margin
At Sweden was close till 2-3 stages from the end he decided to slow
At Argentina was clearly faster with big margin
At Alsace was close when he binned it.

Loeb was fast at all rallies at all terens and inside the fight for win.
Ogier wasn t able to fight at Monte and Argentina.
thats the truth,and not the way you want to show.

try harder.

I know, I can't help it... I'm stupid, I know, but I just have to reply to this one last comment.

Tell me what is not correct in my quote:

"Two wins, one 2nd place, two crashes"

RMC = win #1
Sweden = 2nd place
Argentina = win #2
France = crash
RMC = crash

Let's see how Ogier fared on the very same 5 events

RMC = 2nd place #1
Sweden = win #1
Argentina = 2nd place #2
France = win #2
RMC = 1st (for now)

That doesn't look well for your hero...

You know, I'm just exaggerating. I'm not saying one is better than the other or that Loeb isn't a worthy Champion, on the contrary. I just would've loved to see them competing in a full 2013 season.

And how I feel about Loeb's selfishness is well documented in my last posts.

I think Citroen doesn't do his drivers any good in letting them compete with a retired 41 year old Legend who is way faster than them. It just knocks off their confidence, which already wasn't at very high levels...

**N.O.T** · 23rd January 2015, 20:24

are you finnish smsgrafica ?

**Mariusz** · 23rd January 2015, 20:25

Onboards of Loeb and Meeke crashes: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/vide...112--80--.html

**stefanvv** · 23rd January 2015, 20:25

Originally Posted by smsgrafica

I know, I can't help it... I'm stupid, i know, but I just have to reply to this one last comment.

Tell me what is not correct in my quote:

"Two wins, one 2nd place, two crashes"

RMC = win #1
Sweden = 2nd place
Argentina = win #2
France = crash
RMC = crash

Let's see how Ogier fared on the very same 5 events

RMC = 2nd place #1
Sweden = win #1
Argentina = 2nd place #2
France = win #2
RMC = 1st (for now)

That doesn't look well for your hero...

You know, I'm just exaggerating. I'm not saying one is better than the other or that Loeb is a worthy Champion, on the contrary. I just would've loved to see them competing in a full 2013 season.

And how I feel about Loeb's selfishness is well documented in my last posts.

I think Citroen doesn't do his drivers any good in letting them compete with a retired 41 year old Legend who is way faster than them. It just knocks off their confidence, which already wasn't at very high levels...

Please don't mention Ogier's setback on Alsace's Friday when he realized he is a World Champion '13 the evening before.