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28th April 2007, 11:40 #31
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Originally Posted by DonJippoleftfootbraking.com
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28th April 2007, 15:39 #32
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And here we go again. I'm not refuting that engine-position for Subaru is not perfect, I don't know how it is for the other teams. As for the engineering part of the car. The Xsara and the Pug 206, both dominant cars over the last 6 years, both started development on asphalt, yet they ruled on all surfaces. The Subaru always has been a very good car. But somewhere the designers lost the plot, it happens. Maybe the road-going car's engine lay-out of the C4 and new Focus are indeed better for rallying, but there is more to a good rallycar than engine-position.
Rest in peace Richard
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28th April 2007, 21:41 #33
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Originally Posted by NenukknakDeep down I'm a sound bloke!
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29th April 2007, 03:06 #34
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Originally Posted by Minke
Seems like they would have more weight balance issues with that setup.
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1st May 2007, 03:10 #35
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WRX 2008 engine layout
The WRX 2008 engine layout doesn't look a whole lot better?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1230198'Heroes don't die, they just move on to the next stage.' CMac Forever
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1st May 2007, 22:06 #36
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Originally Posted by smolvar
In traverse engines the motor is just half the diameter of the front diff plus a little, and many tilt the engine back so that its weight is above the axle.
At least on some older North/South designs such as the Ford Sapphire and Escort Cosworths, the diff was bolted to the sump about between
about cylinder 3 and 4, so in effect only about 1/2 of the engine weight was ahead of the axle.
No Subaru is locked into their design and have wrapped up too much marketing BS about "their" boxer design to change anything drastically, and even though this makes no difference for 99% of the world driving Subarus, that forward weight may just be finally making differences when the other cars as so optimised.John Vanlandingham
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1st May 2007, 22:10 #37MJWGuest
Might be related comment but both DR and David Lapworth have said that it will take Prodrive 5 years to become truly competitive in F1, and that medium term Aston Martin could feature in the Prodrive F1 arrangement. Seems to me that Prodrive have made their choice?.......
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