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    Perhaps if essential things like;

    fuel, mortgages/rent, electricity, gas, public transport etc

    weren't all so bloody expensive, wage demands needent be so high.

    Unless there is a very real and specific reason why you are genuinely unable to work, then you should not be eligeable for any form of benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGWilko
    Perhaps if essential things like;

    fuel, mortgages/rent, electricity, gas, public transport etc

    weren't all so bloody expensive, wage demands needent be so high.

    Unless there is a very real and specific reason why you are genuinely unable to work, then you should not be eligeable for any form of benefit.
    A very real and specific reason might be 'being unable to find a job'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
    No one wants to get their hands dirty or work for their money anymore, especially the youth of today. Everyone wants wants wants but they don't want to earn earn earn it!

    Case in point...I was interviewing potential staff for several sales positions in my company and 90% of respondants wanted massive salaries, perks, company cars, no overtime work etc etc that were unrealistic. Now I pay very well and offer bonuses for targets met, but you have to earn it, not demand it, and especially when you are 21 years old and just starting out.
    A company car! That really is a joke. In fact, I can see little need for company cars at all except in certain circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    A very real and specific reason might be 'being unable to find a job'.
    I don't buy that. If you have the will, then there are ways and means to get yourself noticed, be seen to be doing the right things etc which will end up getting you in employment - no matter what the job might be.

    When my father took early retirement from his job at 55, he found work - whether it be washing up, working at a dairy etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    A very real and specific reason might be 'being unable to find a job'.
    They are clearly not looking very hard.

    Are they unable to work? If not, then tough. If there are no handouts, folk'll soon get off their backsides........
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGWilko
    They are clearly not looking very hard.
    An easy statement for someone to make looking in from the sidelines, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    An easy statement for someone to make looking in from the sidelines, I think.
    When the alternative is to kick back and live off very generous benefits, where does the incentive to look for work - any work - come from?

    The benefit system is all to cock, problem is, these benefit sapping wallahs have a big voice cos there are so many of them, and they vote too......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    An easy statement for someone to make looking in from the sidelines, I think.
    Take Jamie Oliver's example - recruiting for trainees. Only folk that could be bothered to turn up were foreign. And yet we as a nation have the cheek to complain that there are so many foreign workers over here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    When you have welfare as good as certain countries have, the young have no motivation for "dirty" jobs and are probably expecting a nice manager position at once. That is why generous welfare payments need to be dumped at once.
    And some employers take apprentices to get free or almost free work force, and when they have to start to pay for the apprentice, they kick him/her out and take a new one.
    I could really use a fish right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGWilko
    When the alternative is to kick back and live off very generous benefits, where does the incentive to look for work - any work - come from?
    I think the incentive not to work at a menial job is probably quite a strong one for some people. It pains me that well-educated individuals are forced into this for want of anything else.

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