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13th December 2011, 21:01 #1071
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Originally Posted by chuck34
Look at it like this: Was the increasing concentration of land, wealth and resources in the hands of the British Empire good for everyone as it grew, or did people begin to question why one nation should exert such power and influence?Riccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
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13th December 2011, 21:01 #1072
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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
In a society that embraces the free market and renounces crony-capitalism then it is GOOD because it is what the Free Market decided.
In a Fascist/Socialist Society then, of course, it is bad.
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13th December 2011, 21:22 #1073
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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1The overall technical objective in racing is the achievement of a vehicle configuration, acceptable within the practical interpretation of the rules, which can traverse a given course in a minimum time. -Milliken
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13th December 2011, 21:26 #1074
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Originally Posted by chuck34Without sharing there can be no justice,
Without justice there can be no peace,
Without peace there can be no future.
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13th December 2011, 21:29 #1075
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Originally Posted by race aficionadoThe overall technical objective in racing is the achievement of a vehicle configuration, acceptable within the practical interpretation of the rules, which can traverse a given course in a minimum time. -Milliken
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13th December 2011, 22:40 #1076
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Originally Posted by chuck34
This four page abstract is a good starting place on the subject:
http://andrewleigh.org/pdf/InequalityMobility.pdf
If you just look at wages, the ability to command higher wages largely comes about through higher education. If you move further down the wage ladder you reach a point where people can not afford to go to university or tertiary education. People who start their working career having completed a tertiary education are able to command higher wages for a longer period of time; multiply that effect over 30 years until the next generation and the ability to send your children to a tertiary institute should increase if you yourself already went and that's just one feedback loop.
If you move from the bottom of the wage ladder to the top, the marginal utility of money decreases and the marginal propensity to save increases. People earning a subsistence wage or not much better than it, do not experience the same abilities to invest or save if indeed at all.
The thing is with the income derived from savings and investment, it still has to be generated by the production of goods and services. This means that people who do derive incomes from savings and investment are being rewarded for other people's labour.
Also, the actual aggregate supply curve for labour kinks to the left at some point. There is either a point where people can not physically provide any more labour by working longer hours and/or the other reason is that generally the aggregate supply curve for labour bends back on itself and we reach a point where higher wages are demanded for less work.
There is also the issue of market power when it comes to wages. Workers and Business Owners never have the same power when it comes to the negotiation of wages. Once upon a time when workers collectively bargained they did hold more power but government policies in a lot of Western countries have actively cut union's power and membership of unions have been generally falling for the past 30 years anwyay.
In most industries, wage earners are price takers whereas business owners are price makers.
Originally Posted by chuck34
Originally Posted by chuck34
And in answer to your question:
Originally Posted by chuck34
Philiposhically over the long run? I'm sure I don't know the answer.
Economics might be a zero sum game. In a broad sense, externalities are never accounted for and maybe one day when the world has been buggered up environmentally, then maybe it is.
At some point the Baby-Boomers will start wanting pensions as well; there's about 80 million of them in the US and they sure as heck didn't pay for it.
Maybe our great-grandchildren will be paying a hideous price for the debt accumulated and the environmental destruction of the planet. Who knows?The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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14th December 2011, 00:02 #1077
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Originally Posted by chuck34
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Originally Posted by ioan
As I have stated repeatedly, I know some people who have been involved. I know what they are like as people, what they are protesting.
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14th December 2011, 00:52 #1079
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Well consider this: This sh!t ain't gonna last much longer and the next wave of protesters are going to get higher up the rung. GE needs a good asskicking for this
As if we need any more evidence that Obama is the most anti-American President our country has ever seen, we see this…
Keep your eye on Waukesha, Wisconsin......Their biggest employer just moved out.General Electric is planning to move its 115-year-old X-ray division from Waukesha, WI to Beijing.In addition to moving the headquarters,the company will invest $2 billion in China and train more than 65 engineers and create six research centers. This is the same GE that made $5.1 billion in the United States last year. but paid no taxes-the same company that employs more people overseas than it does in the united States.So let me get this straight. President Obama appointed GE Chairman Jeff Immelt to head his commission on job creation (job czar). Immelt is supposed to help create jobs. I guess the President forgot to tell him in which country he was supposed to be creating those jobs.Thanks Jeff, you're a "real" American....give Barrack our Best !!If this doesn't show you the total lack of leadership of this President, I don't know what does. Please pass this information to others and think about it before you buy a GE product.For Snopes verification of this information, go to:snopes.com: General Electric China MoveObama to Biden - "Let the Welfare checks rain upon the Earth - I am going to a barbecue"
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14th December 2011, 01:59 #1080
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Originally Posted by Roamy
Originally Posted by chuck34Originally Posted by chuck34
Chuck34 told me so. I believe him.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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