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  1. 12th June 2011, 22:18 #21
    Garry Walker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce D
    I've never heard that theory before, even in books as recent as "Senna vs Prost" it's made out that Senna lost concentration and made a mistake.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark
    Even in the Senna film they said that the reason he crashed was that he'd started to relax and lose concentration.
    You were both answered by this post.
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    Former McLaren engineer/mechanic Neil Trundle said that it was a slow puncture in a 2006 (?) edition of F1 Racing magazine. I don't think I have a copy of it anymore, but it was only a very small excerpt.
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  2. 7th July 2011, 23:29 #22
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    Not choking as such, but suffocating / passing out... Mansell, Dallas 1984

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYyq4lTvJNE
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  3. 14th July 2011, 18:53 #23
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    I am thinking in a race as big as the Indy 500, Scott Goodyear in 95 is one of the best chokes I have ever seen. Everyone remembers Villeneuve being penalized 2 laps and making them up through yellows and strategy and sheer speed, but he would have been second if Scott Goodyear didn't have a brain cramp......
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    My two chokes, and I feel these fully qualify, happen before the green flag drops.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0rql8hL9ag

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgEOjxzrR10

    Roberto Guerrero 1992 and David Coulthard 1995 spin off on the parade lap.
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  5. 17th July 2011, 00:09 #25
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    I'm still not certain exactly what a "choke" means. Does Stirling Moss missing a gear and over-revving his Vanwall at Spa in 1958 count? I always feel that incident cost him the Championship rather than the happenings in Portugal.
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  6. 19th July 2011, 01:19 #26
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    Aarrgh! Forgot about this one. I think I tore the arms of my LaZyboy when this happened. At the 7:20 mark Tracy throws away a two lap lead... yup, TWO LAPS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marbles
    My two chokes, and I feel these fully qualify, happen before the green flag drops.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0rql8hL9ag

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgEOjxzrR10

    Roberto Guerrero 1992 and David Coulthard 1995 spin off on the parade lap.
    Guerrero's spin on the pace laps was jaw dropping.
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    Giancarlo Fisichella, Japan 2005... (sigh)
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  9. 22nd July 2011, 18:26 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark
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  10. 22nd July 2011, 18:58 #30
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    Why? He was about to win the race and all he had to do was keep it on the track, but Button pushed him into a mistake, he choked.
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