MotoGP Round 3 - Estoril

[NinjaMaster]

Jeepers, the first day has been and gone and we've not posted a thread on it!

Well, it's official - Casey Stoner and Valentino Rossi are at war! After a bit of a ceasefire for a while, both parties have been trading barbs at each other after FP2 and dislike seems to have descended into outright hatred of each other. It's a shame but makes things interesting!

MotoGP FP2 times:
1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA 1'37.663
2 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'37.724 0.061 0.061
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'37.727 0.064 0.003
4 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI 1'38.102 0.439 0.375
5 27 Casey STONER HONDA 1'38.102 0.439 0.000
6 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'38.203 0.540 0.101
7 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI 1'38.473 0.810 0.270
8 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA 1'38.563 0.900 0.090
9 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'38.596 0.933 0.033
10 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI 1'38.611 0.948 0.015
11 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA 1'38.645 0.982 0.034
12 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'38.658 0.995 0.013
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA 1'38.760 1.097 0.102
14 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 1'38.912 1.249 0.152
15 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI 1'39.021 1.358 0.109
16 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI 1'39.137 1.474 0.116
17 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI 1'40.173 2.510 1.036

And to spice things up not just slightly more, Stoner and Rossi finished on the exact same time! Also, Karel Abraham continues to impress me and prove himself early on in his MotoGP career.

[Rod Richardson]

QUALIFYING
MOTO GP
I wish the prima-donnas would just shut their mouths and get on with the racing.11Jorge LORENZOSPAYamaha Factory RacingYamaha298.31'37.161
258Marco SIMONCELLIITASan Carlo Honda GresiniHonda305.31'37.2940.133 / 0.133326Dani PEDROSASPARepsol Honda TeamHonda302.11'37.3240.163 / 0.030427Casey STONERAUSRepsol Honda TeamHonda300.31'37.3840.223 / 0.060511Ben SPIESUSAYamaha Factory RacingYamaha307.31'37.8660.705 / 0.48264Andrea DOVIZIOSOITARepsol Honda TeamHonda298.81'38.0730.912 / 0.20775Colin EDWARDSUSAMonster Yamaha Tech 3Yamaha299.81'38.0800.919 / 0.007835Cal CRUTCHLOWGBRMonster Yamaha Tech 3Yamaha298.81'38.1891.028 / 0.109946Valentino ROSSIITADucati TeamDucati301.41'38.2711.110 / 0.082108Hector BARBERASPAMapfre Aspar Team MotoGPDucati292.41'38.3631.202 / 0.092117Hiroshi AOYAMAJPNSan Carlo Honda GresiniHonda296.51'38.4971.336 / 0.1341217Karel ABRAHAMCZECardion AB MotoracingDucati285.51'38.7861.625 / 0.2891369Nicky HAYDENUSADucati TeamDucati306.01'38.9221.761 / 0.1361465Loris CAPIROSSIITAPramac Racing TeamDucati305.31'38.9341.773 / 0.0121519Alvaro BAUTISTASPARizla Suzuki MotoGPSuzuki293.91'39.1722.011 / 0.2381614Randy DE PUNIETFRAPramac Racing TeamDucati295.91'39.3782.217 / 0.2061724Toni ELIASSPALCR Honda MotoGPHonda307.91'39.8942.733 / 0.516MOTO 2


165Stefan BRADLGERViessmann Kiefer RacingKalex270.91'41.591
212Thomas LUTHISWIInterwetten Paddock Moto2Suter266.91'41.7540.163 / 0.163360Julian SIMONSPAMapfre Aspar Team Moto2Suter268.91'41.9050.314 / 0.151493Marc MARQUEZSPATeam CatalunyaCaixa RepsolSuter270.01'42.0730.482 / 0.168577Dominique AEGERTERSWITechnomag-CIPSuter267.61'42.1430.552 / 0.070651Michele PIRROITAGresini Racing Moto2Moriwaki265.51'42.2190.628 / 0.076772Yuki TAKAHASHIJPNGresini Racing Moto2Moriwaki269.31'42.2590.668 / 0.040854Kenan SOFUOGLUTURTechnomag-CIPSuter265.51'42.3070.716 / 0.048916Jules CLUZELFRANGM Forward RacingSuter267.61'42.4000.809 / 0.0931044Pol ESPARGAROSPAHP Tuenti Speed UpFTR268.31'42.4560.865 / 0.0561140Aleix ESPARGAROSPAPons HP 40Pons Kalex268.51'42.4930.902 / 0.0371225Alex BALDOLINIITANGM Forward RacingSuter266.11'42.5460.955 / 0.0531345Scott REDDINGGBRMarc VDS Racing TeamSuter264.81'42.5630.972 / 0.0171429Andrea IANNONEITASpeed MasterSuter270.61'42.5911.000 / 0.0281538Bradley SMITHGBRTech 3 RacingTech 3267.71'42.7431.152 / 0.1521680Axel PONSSPAPons HP 40Pons Kalex269.51'42.7461.155 / 0.003173Simone CORSIITAIoda Racing ProjectFTR268.61'42.8441.253 / 0.0981835Raffaele DE ROSAITADesguaces La Torre G22Moriwaki266.01'42.9531.362 / 0.1091975Mattia PASINIITAIoda Racing ProjectFTR269.31'42.9961.405 / 0.0432088Ricard CARDUSSPAQMMF Racing TeamMoriwaki269.11'43.0801.489 / 0.0842119Xavier SIMEONBELTech 3 BTech 3265.71'43.1201.529 / 0.0402236Mika KALLIOFINMarc VDS Racing TeamSuter268.51'43.1401.549 / 0.0202334Esteve RABATSPABlusens-STXFTR270.51'43.1891.598 / 0.0492414Ratthapark WILAIROTTHAThai Honda Singha SAGFTR267.91'43.2861.695 / 0.097254Randy KRUMMENACHERSWIGP Team Switzerland Kiefer RacingKalex271.31'43.3461.755 / 0.0602663Mike DI MEGLIOFRATech 3 RacingTech 3268.01'43.3661.775 / 0.020279Kenny NOYESUSAAvintia-STXFTR267.41'43.3991.808 / 0.0332815Alex DE ANGELISRSMJIR Moto2Motobi264.81'43.4721.881 / 0.0732913Anthony WESTAUSMZ Racing TeamMZ-RE Honda262.71'43.6602.069 / 0.1883071Claudio CORTIITAItaltrans Racing TeamSuter264.31'43.6742.083 / 0.0143121Javier FORESSPAMapfre Aspar Team Moto2Suter264.51'43.7102.119 / 0.0363253Valentin DEBISEFRASpeed UpFTR268.61'44.0102.419 / 0.3003368Yonny HERNANDEZCOLBlusens-STXFTR269.61'44.0902.499 / 0.0803464Santiago HERNANDEZCOLSAG TeamFTR267.51'44.3552.764 / 0.2653539Robertino PIETRIVENItaltrans Racing TeamSuter263.61'44.8353.244 / 0.4803695Mashel AL NAIMIQATQMMF Racing TeamMoriwaki265.81'45.1003.509 / 0.2653749Kev COGHLANGBRAeroport de CastelloFTR260.41'45.3803.789 / 0.2803897Steven ODENDAALRSAMS RacingSuter261.21'46.5554.964 / 1.175
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[Rod Richardson]

Qualifying
MOTO GP.............I wish the prima-donnas would shut their mouths and get on with the racing and that their bitchy comments were not reported......

• 1Jorge LORENZOYamaha45[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 2Dani PEDROSAHonda36[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 3Casey STONERHonda25[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 4Nicky HAYDENDucati23[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 5Valentino ROSSIDucati20[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 6Hiroshi AOYAMAHonda19[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 7Andrea DOVIZIOSOHonda17[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 8Hector BARBERADucati14[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 9Cal CRUTCHLOWYamaha13[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 10 Karel ABRAHAMDucati12[/*:m:ay0bljuh]

Moto 2

• 1Andrea IANNONESuter45[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 2Stefan BRADLKalex36[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 3Thomas LUTHISuter36[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 4Simone CORSIFTR26[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 5Alex DE ANGELISMotobi22[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 6Bradley SMITHTech 320[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 7Julian SIMONSuter16[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 8 Michele PIRROMoriwaki15[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 9Yuki TAKAHASHIMoriwaki11[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 10 Jules CLUZELSuter9[/*:m:ay0bljuh]

125cc

• 1Nicolas TEROLAprilia50[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 2Jonas FOLGERAprilia31[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 3Sandro CORTESEAprilia30[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 4Johann ZARCODerbi26[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 5Efren VAZQUEZDerbi20[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 6Sergio GADEAAprilia16[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 7Danny KENTAprilia16[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 8Taylor MACKENZIEAprilia11[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 9Hector FAUBELAprilia10[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
• 10 Jakub KORNFEILAprilia9[/*:m:ay0bljuh]

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[TheFamousEccles]

Qualifying
MOTO GP.............I wish the prima-donnas would shut their mouths and get on with the racing and that their bitchy comments were not reported......

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Where are you getting your info, Rod? I've scoured the other motorsport sites that I read and can find no war of words...not even on crash.net which loves salacious gossip and misrepresentation

[Ranger]

Great qualifying session. I expect Simoncelli to win if he doesn't crash.

EDIT: The only war of words I can find is between Lorenzo and Simoncelli.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91029

Jorge Lorenzo vehemently criticised Marco Simoncelli in the post-qualifying press conference at Estoril this afternoon as the pair's dispute over riding ethics escalated.

MotoGP is good value both on and off the track this year.

[NinjaMaster]

Umm, Rod, they're the championship standings, not qualifying results...

MotoGP Final Qualifying:
1 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'37.161
2 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA 1'37.294 0.133 0.133
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'37.324 0.163 0.030
4 27 Casey STONER HONDA 1'37.384 0.223 0.060
5 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA 1'37.866 0.705 0.482
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'38.073 0.912 0.207
7 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'38.080 0.919 0.007
8 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA 1'38.189 1.028 0.109
9 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI 1'38.271 1.110 0.082
10 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI 1'38.363 1.202 0.092
11 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA 1'38.497 1.336 0.134
12 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI 1'38.786 1.625 0.289
13 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'38.922 1.761 0.136
14 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI 1'38.934 1.773 0.012
15 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI 1'39.172 2.011 0.238
16 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI 1'39.378 2.217 0.206
17 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 1'39.894 2.733 0.516


Moto2 Final Qualifying:
1 65 Stefan BRADL KALEX 1'41.591
2 12 Thomas LUTHI SUTER 1'41.754 0.163 0.163
3 60 Julian SIMON SUTER 1'41.905 0.314 0.151
4 93 Marc MARQUEZ SUTER 1'42.073 0.482 0.168
5 77 Dominique AEGERTER SUTER 1'42.143 0.552 0.070
6 51 Michele PIRRO MORIWAKI 1'42.219 0.628 0.076
7 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI MORIWAKI 1'42.259 0.668 0.040
8 54 Kenan SOFUOGLU SUTER 1'42.307 0.716 0.048
9 16 Jules CLUZEL SUTER 1'42.400 0.809 0.093
10 44 Pol ESPARGARO FTR 1'42.456 0.865 0.056
11 40 Aleix ESPARGARO KALEX 1'42.493 0.902 0.037
12 25 Alex BALDOLINI SUTER 1'42.546 0.955 0.053
13 45 Scott REDDING SUTER 1'42.563 0.972 0.017
14 29 Andrea IANNONE SUTER 1'42.591 1.000 0.028
15 38 Bradley SMITH TECH 3 1'42.743 1.152 0.152
16 80 Axel PONS KALEX 1'42.746 1.155 0.003
17 3 Simone CORSI FTR 1'42.844 1.253 0.098
18 35 Raffaele DE ROSA MORIWAKI 1'42.953 1.362 0.109
19 75 Mattia PASINI FTR 1'42.996 1.405 0.043
20 88 Ricard CARDUS MORIWAKI 1'43.080 1.489 0.084
21 19 Xavier SIMEON TECH 3 1'43.120 1.529 0.040
22 36 Mika KALLIO SUTER 1'43.140 1.549 0.020
23 34 Esteve RABAT FTR 1'43.189 1.598 0.049
24 14 Ratthapark WILAIROT FTR 1'43.286 1.695 0.097
25 4 Randy KRUMMENACHER KALEX 1'43.346 1.755 0.060
26 63 Mike DI MEGLIO TECH 3 1'43.366 1.775 0.020
27 9 Kenny NOYES FTR 1'43.399 1.808 0.033
28 15 Alex DE ANGELIS MOTOBI 1'43.472 1.881 0.073
29 13 Anthony WEST IAMT 1'43.660 2.069 0.188
30 71 Claudio CORTI SUTER 1'43.674 2.083 0.014
31 21 Javier FORES SUTER 1'43.710 2.119 0.036
32 53 Valentin DEBISE FTR 1'44.010 2.419 0.300
33 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ FTR 1'44.090 2.499 0.080
34 64 Santiago HERNANDEZ FTR 1'44.355 2.764 0.265
35 39 Robertino PIETRI SUTER 1'44.835 3.244 0.480
36 95 Mashel AL NAIMI MORIWAKI 1'45.100 3.509 0.265
37 49 Kev COGHLAN FTR 1'45.380 3.789 0.280
38 97 Steven ODENDAAL SUTER 1'46.555 4.964 1.175
76 Max NEUKIRCHNER FTR
99 Lukasz WARGALA MORIWAKI


125cc Final Qualifying:
1 18 Nicolas TEROL APRILIA 1'46.556
2 11 Sandro CORTESE APRILIA 1'47.270 0.714 0.714
3 44 Miguel OLIVEIRA APRILIA 1'47.405 0.849 0.135
4 55 Hector FAUBEL APRILIA 1'47.600 1.044 0.195
5 23 Alberto MONCAYO APRILIA 1'47.750 1.194 0.150
6 5 Johann ZARCO DERBI 1'48.353 1.797 0.603
7 39 Luis SALOM APRILIA 1'48.498 1.942 0.145
8 94 Jonas FOLGER APRILIA 1'48.557 2.001 0.059
9 7 Efren VAZQUEZ DERBI 1'48.594 2.038 0.037
10 26 Adrian MARTIN APRILIA 1'48.639 2.083 0.045
11 25 Maverick VIÑALES APRILIA 1'48.673 2.117 0.034
12 33 Sergio GADEA APRILIA 1'48.936 2.380 0.263
13 96 Louis ROSSI APRILIA 1'48.959 2.403 0.023
14 15 Simone GROTZKYJ APRILIA 1'49.237 2.681 0.278
15 63 Zulfahmi KHAIRUDDIN DERBI 1'49.607 3.051 0.370
16 84 Jakub KORNFEIL APRILIA 1'49.638 3.082 0.031
17 21 Harry STAFFORD APRILIA 1'50.090 3.534 0.452
18 99 Danny WEBB MAHINDRA 1'50.167 3.611 0.077
19 31 Niklas AJO APRILIA 1'50.195 3.639 0.028
20 53 Jasper IWEMA APRILIA 1'50.197 3.641 0.002
21 76 Hiroki ONO KTM 1'50.433 3.877 0.236
22 3 Luigi MORCIANO APRILIA 1'50.559 4.003 0.126
23 52 Danny KENT APRILIA 1'50.587 4.031 0.028
24 30 Giulian PEDONE APRILIA 1'50.875 4.319 0.288
25 36 Joan PERELLO APRILIA 1'51.608 5.052 0.733
26 17 Taylor MACKENZIE APRILIA 1'51.803 5.247 0.195
27 77 Marcel SCHROTTER MAHINDRA 1'52.280 5.724 0.477
28 56 Peter SEBESTYEN KTM 1'53.508 6.952 1.228
29 43 Francesco MAURIELLO APRILIA 1'53.740 7.184 0.232
Not qualified (Out 107%) 1'54.014
86 Kevin HANUS HONDA 1'54.875 8.319 1.135
69 Sarath KUMAR APRILIA 1'55.530 8.974 0.655
19 Alessandro TONUCCI APRILIA

[Rod Richardson]

Where am I getting my info?? It's an opinion based on what I believe were Stoner's unwarranted off-the-cuff comments to Rossi on the day in response to an incident where Rossi simply over-cooked it and was man enough to apologize whereas Lorenzo's criticism of Simoncelli's riding style also slots well into the prima-donna/bitchy category. ..

[NinjaMaster]

Great qualifying session. I expect Simoncelli to win if he doesn't crash.

EDIT: The only war of words I can find is between Lorenzo and Simoncelli.

Actually, Stoner and Rossi had a big spat on Friday too. From MotoMatters:

The incident that ended the uneasy peace was fairly trivial, which is fitting for epic conflicts such as this. Towards the end of the second session of free practice, Valentino Rossi eased off the throttle, allowing Casey Stoner to get past. Rossi says he backed off to take a breather, before putting his head down for a final attempt at setting a fast time; Stoner says Rossi was waiting for him to get a tow. Stoner says Rossi's so desperate for a fast lap he'll wait for a tow; Rossi says that this happens in every practice session, and if Stoner is sick of people getting tows he should go race on his own.

It went downhill from there: Stoner says the signal he gave to Rossi - tapping the rear of his bike - was intended as a call to heel, Rossi being "like a dog who follows you everywhere." Rossi in turn said that if spent his time tapping the seat hump of his bike every time someone followed him, he would have broken several hundred of them. Stoner reiterated his point that Rossi's crash at Jerez was a "rookie mistake", while Rossi launched into an invective against Stoner's claims about him.

"Stoner says a lot of things which aren't true," Rossi claimed. "He says I signed with Ducati because I was forced to, I had no other choice, because I cannot get the same money because of Lorenzo [Rossi's former teammate at Fiat Yamaha]. He speaks about my shoulder like he was the best shoulder doctor in Melbourne Hospital. But he doesn't know nothing," Rossi said. The reason for this was simple, Rossi explained. "He [Stoner] never got over losing at Laguna Seca."

[NinjaMaster]

Where am I getting my info?? It's an opinion based on what I believe were Stoner's unwarranted off-the-cuff comments to Rossi on the day in response to an incident where Rossi simply over-cooked it and was man enough to apologize whereas Lorenzo's criticism of Simoncelli's riding style also slots well into the prima-donna/bitchy category. ..

Out of interest, Rod, if Lorenzo runs Simo off the track sometime this year with an over-ambitious passing manouvre and walks to the Gresini pit to say sorry, do you think Marco would be justified if he met the apology with his own sharp comment or should he just accept the aplology?

[Rod Richardson]

Sharp comments are ok in my book and well chosen and appropriate (even abusive) words could have been used without degrading the guy's obvious talent. Not what I would have expected from Stoner. That being said, Stoner may well have been harbouring ill feeling over the Laguna Seca incident that influenced his comments.