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Thread: Prodrive Mini WRC
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7th October 2011, 10:19 #1021
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Originally Posted by Nornbugger
Sure, Meeke had his problems in JWRC, his speed and raw talent was never an issue and most saw that but he obviously did have accidents when he really should have been on the podium. Ok, many good drivers have their accidents but many confuse DNF statistics and automatically assume poor driving no matter the cause of the DNF and this seems to added to Meeke's reputation, deserved or otherwise.
As for his WRC career, as I said earlier, two drives over 6 years is hardly much experience. With Mini he's had 4 DNFs out of 4 starts. Looks bad doesn't it? Except 3 were mechanical and of course the off in Alsace. With that off it happened as I described, first pass he felt he lost time, 2nd pass the different approach was wrong. Most drivers modify a note when they feel it was not appropriate on the first pass, not rocket science. The crew are hardly going to make a mental note to approach a particular corner a few hours and 30kms later.............
Meeke got his seat with Prodrive the hard way, no money, no sugar daddy, no big backers. He's there because DR wants him there. For what he can do behind the wheel and his engineering/development ability, an unusual combination these days. So give the guy a chance to prove himself, I believe he will earn the respect of many more fans in due course.
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7th October 2011, 10:45 #1022
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Originally Posted by noel157
Re the Mini haters, theres a lot of top engineers on here in their dreams, my concern for the Mini that I never posted before now was that I think marketing men rather than engineers made the decision on which version to use and possibly created a compromise from the off. This possibly is bs, just a little thought I had
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7th October 2011, 11:08 #1023
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Originally Posted by sollittAja kovaa Pena.
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7th October 2011, 11:17 #1024
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Over rated?? You don't win 25 WRC events if you're no good..
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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7th October 2011, 11:34 #1025
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there is a difference between "no good" and overated.....
He was a great driver (great enough to become champion) but not something really special like Loeb, Kannkunen even Makinen and Gronholm.
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7th October 2011, 12:32 #1026
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Must say I have to agree. He was a brilliant driver, and the most popular worldwide mainly due to his computer game, but he there was never a time when no one could touch him. Since i've watched rallying Makinen had a period...well most of the late 90's where he was untouchable, Gronholm was in 2000 and especially 2002, Loeb was from 2005 until this season. Colin always tried hard, maybe too hard, and thats not because he wanted to entertain a few fans but because his competition was usually better.
I think it's similar with Solberg, he's got character and won a single world championship......and the most important factor was that he was in a Subaru, therefore everyone loves him and thinks he's the best ever.
Burns for me was a different situation, he was consistant and gathered points to win (...bit of a Hirvonen) but I always thought he was quicker than Mcrae anyway. Just because he got less wins it didn't make him a slower driver, as he came close to winning the WRC more times than Mcrae.
Can't believe I've joined in with this rant anyway, it's a little pointless. Oh well that's what lunch breaks are for!
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7th October 2011, 12:59 #1027
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Originally Posted by noel157
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7th October 2011, 14:55 #1028
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Originally Posted by dimviii
Yes, reliability is an issue but it's not a big issue considering and the faults so far have been very minor.
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7th October 2011, 15:24 #1029
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sorry, I couldn't resist:
World Rally Championship - News - Michelin’s safety campaign gets MINI support
the image makes me laugh
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7th October 2011, 15:50 #1030Originally Posted by noel157
still 3rd after penalty
[WRC] Vodafone Rally de Portugal...