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13th July 2010, 10:17 #11
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the only question is would they run as VW in Indy and run the Audis in ALMS? I think they will run both as Audi so they can advertise as "winners of Le Mans and the 500" or something to that nature.
Multiple engines/chassis is great news!"Everything comes to those who wait... except a cat." Mario Andretti
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13th July 2010, 10:38 #12
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Agreed...it was more people throwing both names out there when they're the same company. On the face of it though this sounds like positive news
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13th July 2010, 13:47 #13
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Originally Posted by Lousada
When the likes of Jan Opperman didn't go to Indy as the next step of the ladder, the thread was pulled tight, and when guys like Dave Blaney and Steve Kinser blazed a trail to NASCAR, the thread was snapped with Ryan Newman and Kasey Kahne and the like.
I don't know how Bernard can get these fans back easily. Tony George played lip service to it, but I don't really know what was done....
AS for the chassis and manfacturers (the thread's theme right?? lol), the more the better the sooner."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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13th July 2010, 15:33 #14
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This will be very good for the sport, I'm exited to hear the announcement tommorow.
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13th July 2010, 15:37 #15
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Having 2 or 3 USAC grads in the series and at Indy would be a start.
Not looking down on them (the drivers and fans) as some kind of 2nd class citizens, would be a big start.
Not just "talking" about wanting them back in the sport, but actually putting your $$$ where your mouth is, would be a nice change.
Realizing that the oval track portion of AOW is a heck of a lot bigger then the road racing portion and understanding there is a loyal fanbase out there, would be nice.
Trying to connect (like Bernard appears like he wants to) at local tracks with "REAL" AOW fans (like NASCAR's people did in the late 80's and 90's) would be a huge step in the right direction.
I don't think anyone thinks the Indy 500 should be made up of 25 USAC oval track grads. But it can't be made up of none either (which could happen soon once Hamilton and Fisher retire). Just a few, in stable, half-way decent rides, would probably be enough to reconnect many fans who left the sport and have no interest any more in Indy Cars.
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13th July 2010, 16:25 #16
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Originally Posted by Scotty G.
Hamilton and Fisher's track record indicates accuately what you ignore. They don't have the skill set from driving a midget or sprint car to adapt to a rear engined winged car. THAT is why all these posers from Europe and road racers race Indy cars. It is easy to demonize the team owners as idiots, but the fact is guys like Chip Ganassi and Roger Penske aren't looking in USAC to find Indycar drivers, and they want to just win. If the USAC guys had the skill set, you would see Penske and Ganassi looking for these guys.....
Roger did look in USAC for drivers....and he found one. His name was Ryan Newman and it was obvious that his skill set and instincts honed in dirt cars would work better in NASCAR.
You can rail against the evil owners all you like, the fact is driving a sprint car is better training to drive NASCAR and not a modern Indy car. Unless Indy went back to being a track where you raced a modern version of the roadster, this will not change."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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13th July 2010, 18:19 #17
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13th July 2010, 18:52 #18
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Originally Posted by Mark in OshawaThere is no substitute...
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13th July 2010, 19:51 #19
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13th July 2010, 20:00 #20
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Originally Posted by Scotty G.
Not that bigger numbers always means better. There is a reason why certain companies shy away from NASCAR with it's huge fan base and instead invest in series like the ALMS.
Tänak got 20 points closer to Evans, but as the main reason was a bad rally for Evans, I would say that Evans lost 20 points to Tänak, not Tänak gained. The point is, if the other one does not...
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