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    With engine freeze concentrating purely on engine manufacturing is quite useless. In the past an engine supplier could at least boast that they are making the best engines in the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    Stuck is a bit daft, to say the least.
    This is about CAR manufacturers not about ENGINE manufacturers.
    Quote Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
    If manufacturers only supplied engines, then that would be bad for F1.
    'those that don't learn from history are comdemned to... look bad'.

    and here's some history, just to prove it.

    http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/engines.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by K-Pu
    The engine freeze was another master move by the FIA, trying to reduce costs, and what did they achieve?

    Nothing good. And engine freeze plus KERS is a beautiful thing, the alliance of opposites, night and day, black and white, FIA and FOTA!

    (Maybe that last one not)
    On the contrary, the engine freeze is one of the few good things FIA has introduced, they should have done that with V10 engines, it would have saved a whole lot of money. Now all the teams have a competitive engine which makes the competition a lot tougher, gives small teams a better chance of succeeding. In the mid 90's there was a horsepower difference of up to 100bhp between customer engines (Ford) and works engines...those cars were not competing in the same category in reality...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexDexter
    On the contrary, the engine freeze is one of the few good things FIA has introduced, they should have done that with V10 engines, it would have saved a whole lot of money. Now all the teams have a competitive engine which makes the competition a lot tougher, gives small teams a better chance of succeeding. In the mid 90's there was a horsepower difference of up to 100bhp between customer engines (Ford) and works engines...those cars were not competing in the same category in reality...
    Not only they all get a competitive engine, but also at a competitive price!
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