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    devil's advocate i hope toro rosso find a buyer the customer car issue comes around and byte them on the ass after all how much of that (court action) had to do with the demise of super aguri

    will we now see red bull and toro rosso with Ferrari engine
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    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72066

    This outlines the partnership pretty well.

    McLaren are taking a proactive interest in FI and helping them get up the food chain. I don't think their goal of wins in 2010 are particularly unrealistic.

    With McLarens guidance, I am sure that a competitive Chassis can be developed and knowledge transfer of process and discipline will undoubtedly help FI.

    There could even be McLaren drivers coming up from FI for a year before driving for McLaren.

    Everything is within the Concord agreement and is completely different from supplying a specific B team with a car and getting them race it for you.

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    This is worse than the Super Aguri case, as SAF1 was getting 1 year old technology and trying to develop it bit more.
    Force India are looking to buy McLaren knowledge as they go.
    The only different thing is that they might build the cars themselves.

    This is what happens when corporatist people get into F1, they make a business out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    This is worse than the Super Aguri case, as SAF1 was getting 1 year old technology and trying to develop it bit more.
    Force India are looking to buy McLaren knowledge as they go.
    The only different thing is that they might build the cars themselves.

    This is what happens when corporatist people get into F1, they make a business out of it.
    So were you against TR and Red Bull getting 2008 spec engines this year ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolePosition_1
    So were you against TR and Red Bull getting 2008 spec engines this year ?
    Of course not because they weren't procured from McLaren

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolePosition_1
    So were you against TR and Red Bull getting 2008 spec engines this year ?
    There was an engine freeze in place! I think that answers your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    There was an engine freeze in place! I think that answers your question.

    Well, considering teams have managed to gain 20BHP over the season, I'd suggest its an engine freeze in name only. In reality, its not a total freeze

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    What's the difference between this and the proposed Prodrive customer car that was disallowed?
    In all but name this is a customer car.

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    I'm surprsied at the number of people calling it a customer car. I've yet to see anything that suggests FI will be using McLaren designs for chassis and aero. I've no doubt that McLaren development knowledge is going to passed on, helping them avoid dead ends and improve the car, but this is only a more advanced form of the customer deal that WIlliams and Toyota currently have. After all, those two teams have shared a limited amount of data on transmission systems.

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    Lanica to purchase Toro Rosso and I believe Williams will get backed by Audi, Porshce or maybe a bike company like Kawasaki.

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