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17th April 2020, 15:30 #151
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I think that a very interesting sample of the free spread in a very healthy and strong population can be abserved on the Charles de Gaule aircraft carrier. Currently 1081 sailors are positive which is already one half of the crew. Only one of them had to be hospitalized though.
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17th April 2020, 16:23 #152
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17th April 2020, 18:41 #153
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Yes but what I wanted to point out is that at the young and strong population very small percentage has any problems and far majority may not even have any symptoms at all.
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18th April 2020, 11:06 #154
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An interesting fact from the Roosevelt is as well that 60% of the infected never showed any symptoms at all, so this probably means the actual amount of infected people is alot bigger than currently reported worldwide.
Source https://www.businessinsider.com/test...20-4?r=US&IR=T
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18th April 2020, 11:28 #155
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In the words of our leading epidemiologist what is being published is a festival of incorrect numbers and he's most likely right. I think the aircraft carriers are a good example because the crew is all tested. In the normal population every country tests differently and some countries do testing only with clearly ill people. At some point Spain had a ratio of around 0,4 of the total number of infected people against the total number of tests which, if we consider repeated tests, meant they could not test much more people than those ill ones. I am not saying this ratio gives the whole picture but it's for sure an interesting thing to see because it shows how much the countries test in relation to the virus spread in the population.
Strangely at the beginning there was a discussion here about Finland/Russia and the lack of testing in Russia. Now however Russia has 2nd highest total number of tests done after US (no numbers for China) and the ratio of infected people against the number of tests is very low 0,02 (0,08 for Germany; 0,13 for Italy; 0,18 for Sweden; 0,19 for US; 0,20 for Spain; 0,25 for UK... 0,72 for Algeria).Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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18th April 2020, 16:08 #156
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Have you heard that Roberto Angiolini, who headed Jolly Club, died from complications of COVID-19?
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19th April 2020, 04:24 #158
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There is a big difference between self isolation within your small group of people in your home and being quarantined as an individual in a secured facility. Currently should you enter NZ from overseas you are quarantined for 14 days, once clear from there then you are permitted to enter self isolation.
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19th April 2020, 12:58 #159
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Do not take Russian test number seriously
There have been already two studies with random selection of people. in Netherlands, it revealed that mortality rate is ca 0.63 % and in Denmark, it was around 0.19, it depends on how much infection reaches to old people and if all more serious cases are medically treated. So, in general, if you take countries where medical system has not reached to its limits yet, you can use number of deaths and use these %-es. If you know background of how much the virus has reached to old people, you can choose which coefficient is more realistic. So, for BEL we should get number between 1-2 million, in NED, around 1 million, in CZ it can be between 80-90k. In Sweden, probably over 700k. In Germany, this number is probably around 2 million. This is just a theoretical number based on couple of surveys. if we use rough estimate as 0.5%, then we should get that something 30-40 million people have been infected and of course, many of them are OK already. So, with such numbers, it is quite easy for virus to spread. in many countries this number is close to 5%, which is every 30th person.. like two persons in bus, ten persons in larger airplane etc.Colins Crest = Möldri Mätas
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19th April 2020, 13:07 #160
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Do you take the numbers from other countries seriously then?
For example in Belgium a lot of deaths are from retirement homes, I remember earlier this week some 280 were from retirement homes, while only 31 of them were confirmed corona cases, also people who die from heart attacked are often taken into statistics... In some other countries on the contrary they don't count those people in care centers at all. The number of new confirmed cases is probably even farther off the realistic number, not only is the number of tests a big question mark, there's also the people who they test on, and te reliability of those tests...
A lot of numbers are being published, but imo they shouldn't be taken as facts, as all of them are incorrect in one or another way.
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