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    If i remember correctly, a top spec impreza Gr.N from Tommi Mäkinen Racing costed over 100K with spares.
    A Mitsubishi Evo X R4 costed 120K, again, if i remember correctly.

    But most Gr.N imprezas costed from 70-80K, probably "clean".

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    If i remember correctly, a top spec impreza Gr.N from Tommi Mäkinen Racing costed over 100K with spares.
    A Mitsubishi Evo X R4 costed 120K, again, if i remember correctly.

    But most Gr.N imprezas costed from 70-80K, probably "clean".

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    the key in your post is past tense... Since few yers ago prices have gone up significantly...
    So the price of a rally 3 is relative to gr N

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    If i remember correctly, a top spec impreza Gr.N from Tommi Mäkinen Racing costed over 100K with spares.
    A Mitsubishi Evo X R4 costed 120K, again, if i remember correctly.

    But most Gr.N imprezas costed from 70-80K, probably "clean".

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    Top spec N4 cars cost way more than 100.000€.
    For Prodrive Impreza N12 in 2006 they paid around 120.000-130.000€ (just car), also top spec EVO9 N4 with all possible parts from Ralliart was more than 100.000€.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcevc View Post
    Top spec N4 cars cost way more than 100.000€.
    For Prodrive Impreza N12 in 2006 they paid around 120.000-130.000€ (just car), also top spec EVO9 N4 with all possible parts from Ralliart was more than 100.000€.
    Mad prices for Group N if you consider 2006 vs 2022, just only on inflations terms

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    Note that the Renault will be a pure customer operation for the Clio Rally3 as they have no in-house rally team to run it. Unlike M-Sport (Poland) which did the Fiesta.

    Any ideas which teams may buy/run the new Clio for customers apart from Chazel and Fun Meca Sport ?
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    They will build 1 Rally3/week. I'm sure there will be a waiting list. I know there are a few of them ordered for the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Note that the Renault will be a pure customer operation for the Clio Rally3 as they have no in-house rally team to run it. Unlike M-Sport (Poland) which did the Fiesta.

    Any ideas which teams may buy/run the new Clio for customers apart from Chazel and Fun Meca Sport ?
    I guess there are many french teams that could do it on their behalf. Toksport are already there, and have links to Renault.
    And MSport Poland is concentrating on JWRC I guess.

    on the other hand, could be good with a championship for the privateers !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    I guess there are many french teams that could do it on their behalf. Toksport are already there, and have links to Renault.
    And MSport Poland is concentrating on JWRC I guess.

    on the other hand, could be good with a championship for the privateers !
    Toksport sold all Clios right after Barum and, as far as I know, they don't plan to keep running the Clio Trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ictus View Post
    the key in your post is past tense... Since few yers ago prices have gone up significantly...
    So the price of a rally 3 is relative to gr N
    But Rally3 is not relative to N4. In a lot of countries back in the day, the group N was a top tier car with which you could fight for overall victories/podiums. Now the Rally3 barely fights a Rally4 car.
    Also with the N4 you could start on a low budget and step by step build it up to a top spec. With the Rally3 you are on 120 000 Euro from the get go.
    So I don't think Rally3 replaces N4, it is it's own new group with it's customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Popov View Post
    Also with the N4 you could start on a low budget and step by step build it up to a top spec. With the Rally3 you are on 120 000 Euro from the get go.
    So I don't think Rally3 replaces N4, it is it's own new group with it's customers.
    You are right, but the era of N4 is gone. I mean the whole concept of having "stock" car and building better and better car is not technically possible due to macro-economical reasons. So the customers could be quite similar group ...

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