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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Maybe you dont know, but since 1.4.2018 was cancelled homologation of pop-off valve from company Oral with number 007, which was used by most of the teams (it looks like that this pop-off valve was quite stronger than others). So this should bring problems as drivers needs to use different pop-offs now.
    Brilliant idea, cancelling the homologation of the strongest one when this is a notorious problem of R5 cars.

    Who is responsible for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Watching the highlights I have to say Eurosport still do the best job of rally coverage. Great editing and mixture of heli, stage-side & onboards giving a real feeling of speed and comparison between driving styles.
    The tv programme itself could sometimes be better but ERC’s YouTube output is top notch - quite fast to get stuff online, plenty of footage and even some full stage coverage of some drivers.

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    Onboard Magalhaes SS6. A question to br21... should it be possible to hear the pop-off opening in the onboard?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5UIQU5HVzU
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Onboard Magalhaes SS6. A question to br21... should it be possible to hear the pop-off opening in the onboard?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5UIQU5HVzU
    br21 will have for sure more knowledge about the r5 pop off,but what i have understand is that the problem with them is that they fail to keep the given maximum turbo pressure constantly(2,5 bar)
    When they fail to keep the pressure, you loose power.If the pop off valve cant reach the given target,but manage to hold some 2,3 bar,you are not going to listen something from any onboard or inside the car.
    it sounds really strange to me to have these problems after so many years.
    Btw at video near the end we saw Magalhaes reached 188km/h.

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    If you compare to Gryazin’s onboard then Magalhaes’ acceleration up the hill at the beginning is comparable.

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    No, you can't hear anything from onboard. You can notice from worse acceleration sometimes, but also not easy from video as instead of 1,5b boost you have some 1,15; so not that huge, huge difference to clearly see from video (especially as you have other factors, like uphill road, etc).
    Recent newest 008 spec pop-off is not worse than 007 (which homologation was cancelled as it gave some opportunity to cheat). Main problem with them is that they are supposed to open close to their upper homologation limit (which is 1,65), but sometimes they loose performance and open at 1,3 for example... It sometimes happens also during gear change as if wastegate is reacting too slow then you have overboost for split second. Or during ALS when "spikes" from it make it open. Some drivers have tendency to drive less "pop-off friendly" (shifting early, etc). Sometimes it's just poor quality of them, sometimes added to heat (ambient and intake air), vibration and other crazy factors. Nowdays most R5 car manufacturers have quite good strategies to avoid pop-off opening situations plus strategies to close it when problem occurs. But it's not always 100% succesful. Normally when you have pop-off which opens few times during the loop you for sure change it to new one, usually it helps, at least for some time. As each pop-off valve has it's "life cycle" - after some number of openings combined with "working hours" it loosing performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Only six rounds remain and Lukyanuk already scored two victories.
    And he has twice as many points as anybody else:
    https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/#
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    And he has twice as many points as anybody else:
    https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/#
    The U28 battle is the one in 2018.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    The tv programme itself could sometimes be better but ERC’s YouTube output is top notch - quite fast to get stuff online, plenty of footage and even some full stage coverage of some drivers.
    For the R5 drivers, and their sponsors doing ERC must be a much better deal. WRC2 is totally neglected for airtime.
    The manufacturers will see and pick up the best talents also from ERC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    For the R5 drivers, and their sponsors doing ERC must be a much better deal. WRC2 is totally neglected for airtime.
    The manufacturers will see and pick up the best talents also from ERC!
    Some way yes, but:

    How many people watch ERC? and WRC? Is WRC audience 10x bigger ?

    What about followers? How many visitors ERC.com ? WRC.com?

    Difficult to compare. WRC2 you will minimum or less airtime.
    Situation is probably different in every country, in Finland WRC2 is maybe bigger thing than ERC.
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