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6th December 2018, 18:42 #31
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6th December 2018, 21:06 #32
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Our review on WRC2 technical regulations, past and future WRC2 Championships:
https://wrcwings.wordpress.com/2018/...hips-for-2019/WRCWings - Aerodynamics of WRC
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6th December 2018, 21:44 #33
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While I'd like to see money returned to the teams by the promoter, I doubt they're in a position to do so. What they can do is add VALUE to a second division, with coverage and such like, so that the manufactures involved can justify a relatively modest (in motorsport terms) investment in running a two car team in that second division. I don't think the promoter sees the value in anything other than the main class. I understand that somewhat, but they're putting all their eggs in one basket.
While my idea is optimistic, it's similar to the situation in 2009 and 2010 with the 'Manufacturer/WRC Teams' of Stobart M-Sport and Citroën Junior Team. I'm not saying the manufacturers needs to provide fully funded drives. A 'Hyundai MDP' team could include Huttunen and Pierre-Louis Loubet, with Loubet funding most of his drive.
What does WRC2 Pro actually provide as a platform? We'll see what the exposure is like next year, but as a development series it is far from ideal. Does a partial season, sometimes against little competition on some rounds they take part in, really prepare the like of Huttunen or Rovanpera for a full WRC drive in 2020? If you're going to bring up new talent to the WRC, at some point a manufacturer will have to be paying for them to learn all the rallies. Why pay for them to do this in an expensive WRC car rather than an R5?
I'm totally with you on that. Personally I'd have structured it as:
WRC2 - 14 rounds and 2 cars mandatory, same manufacturer Championship rules as the main class (3 cars permitted, top 2 score ect). WRC2 has essentially always been a manufacturer dominated class and remains as such, retaining its clear identity.
PWRC (Privateer World Rally Cup) - Has the same rules as 2019 WRC2. A 'Cup' is a far better title for something where two competitors for a Championship can literally have never competed against each other by the time a winner is declared.
JWRC - As is.
Haven't VW themselves also said that their works team is available to someone who is able to fund its operation? To me this is where the promoter has a role to play again. If you look at Bernie Ecclestone as the ultimate promoter, he was all about putting deals together like pieces of a jigsaw to help his overall picture rather than just focusing on deals only directly affecting the promoter itself. As the promoter you'd want to be entertaining the likes of Lukoil, Liqui Moly, BWT and Monster Energy, having the foundations laid to allow relationships that could see a 'BWT Volkswagen Junior Team' or 'Monster Energy M-Sport'. They might not be paying the promoter directly, but they'd be benefiting from having a stronger product.
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6th December 2018, 21:53 #34
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Some years ago I think FIA dictated the calendars for the support championships. Might not be a bad idea to do it again?
Something like..
WRC2 Pro: Monte, Sweden, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Finland, Germany, Turkey, Oz (all events count)
WRC2: Corse, Portugal, Sardinia, Finland, Germany, Wales, Spain (6 of 7 count)
This would:
- Force championship contenders to actually fight each other
- Keep costs down for WRC2 privateers
- Ensure better entry lists on flyaway events (providing pro series was popular)
- Few clashes between each series ensure that pro doesn’t overshadow privateers championship
Some teams could always pimp out their second cars to privateer locals on flyaway events to collect manufacturers points and make the pro series affordable for them.
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7th December 2018, 17:15 #35
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My suggestion would be to have either WRC2 Pro or JWRC as the main support series on each rally. This would make the entry lists equal on every rally and give better attention to JWRC. Privateer WRC2 would be available everywhere to make it fair for privateers around the world. But then again, this arrangement would not be fair for some rallies whose entry lists would be smaller this way, having had previously both JWRC and big number of WRC2 entries.
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7th December 2018, 17:34 #36
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How about that structure:
WRC - main class (WRC car)
WRC2 - support class (R5 car)
ERC, APRC, ARC, CODASUR, MERC, NACAM - regional (R4 car - if it will be any)
JUNIOR CUP - youngsters (R2 car)
Winner gets a seat in higher class car for next season.
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7th December 2018, 17:44 #37
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7th December 2018, 18:35 #38
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7th December 2018, 20:02 #39
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7th December 2018, 20:04 #40
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after that YouTube channel with tons of old rallying videos was 'stopped', now its time for one rallycross YouTube channel to have the same end. https://youtube.com/@rallygreat2660?feature=shared...
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