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    So only 1 pass at Chirk - what's the point. A really wimpy Sunday morning with a whiff of 'limited spectator access'. The last 2 stages on Saturday are effectively night stages but this is not getting my juices flowing at all!
    Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintexmemory View Post
    So only 1 pass at Chirk - what's the point. A really wimpy Sunday morning with a whiff of 'limited spectator access'. The last 2 stages on Saturday are effectively night stages but this is not getting my juices flowing at all!
    I would sway its a 'futuristic' route, it gives a glimpse of what direction Jost and VW want. Especially the sunday format.

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    already last year's Sunday route was a farce. timing was so tight and rushed to finish everything by midday. I don't get the point of this

    anyway it seems to be a decent change for the route but nothing too exciting. now lets wait and see if they manage to add a few more spectator access points than usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJW View Post
    I would sway its a 'futuristic' route, it gives a glimpse of what direction Jost and VW want. Especially the sunday format.
    So, basically, VW/ Capito have bent the FiA/ RedBull over a barrel. Or they'll leave...?? What a way to run the sport.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    So, basically, VW/ Capito have bent the FiA/ RedBull over a barrel. Or they'll leave...?? What a way to run the sport.
    He's probably a fool to have announced their continuation in the sport so early then. The Shootout was proposed last year, and was knocked back by the FIA. That could still happen again once members of the World Council get hold if it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    He's probably a fool to have announced their continuation in the sport so early then. The Shootout was proposed last year, and was knocked back by the FIA. That could still happen again once members of the World Council get hold if it.....
    from the interviews with team principals during Sardinia it is almost certain that the system will be adopted in some sort of format next year. it seems to be closer than we think, sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    So, basically, VW/ Capito have bent the FiA/ RedBull over a barrel. Or they'll leave...?? What a way to run the sport.
    Colin Clark @voiceofrally ˇ 14 ώρες
    Here's a question for you. WRC in 2016 with final stage shoot out? Or WRC in 2016 with no VW. I know which one I'd choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Colin Clark @voiceofrally ˇ 14 ώρες
    Here's a question for you. WRC in 2016 with final stage shoot out? Or WRC in 2016 with no VW. I know which one I'd choose.
    I know which i'd choose too.

    The best comment I saw on this, I think it was on Twitter, was along the lines of "WRC with a final stage shootout is like Le Mans with a 23 hour 55 minute quali session and a 1 lap race".

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    Quote Originally Posted by turves View Post
    I know which i'd choose too.
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    very easy choice for me too.

    imho the sport defintely needs changes,but NOT this one.
    Vw if they f@cked up,they will leave.For sure will be easy to spend 100 millions for advertisment.
    But i, and worldwide fans, will be here to watch a f@cked up sport for decades.

    At previous decades there were some factories with same budget as todays vw.
    These factories teams (toyota,lancia,citroen)didn t have requests like these.Change the sport or i leave.

    gtfo now vw.

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    I'm not sure if everybody here realises that the concept isn't as bad as everyone thinks. It's NOT like 'P1 and P2 before the last stage are equal and the winner wins the rally.'

    The advantage of the leader will be reduced to the sec/km's he was faster during the rally. For example: Ogier has a lead over Latvala by 20 seconds before the last stage (after 200 km's of driving for example). His lead for the last stage (which will be 20 km's let's say) will be reduced to (20/200*20)=2 seconds.

    It's still quite a shitty system and I doubt it will make things more simple for casual viewers (I'm sure it won't), but at least it's not as bad as we all feared initially.

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