M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

[adr17]

As I guess its me you were referring to. Yes, I'm an M-Sport fan, but I dont work there and dont have inside knowledge other than what a manager told us fans at WRGB.

Like said manager, every, and I mean every, website and magazine refers to the Fiesta R5 as being based on the Fiesta ST and having an Ecoboost 1.6T-based engine. It's a fact that M-Sport start with a factory-built car as its basis for the R5. There is no mention anywhere of which another engine or block that they are using.

Racetech Magazine quotes M-Sport’s head of engine development, Nigel Arnfield on the R5 Evo: "The engine is based on the 1.6-litre turbocharged inline four found in the Ford Fiesta ST road car. As with most modern production designs it uses direct injection (DI), which means it’s very sensitive to the shape of the piston crown and the roof of the combustion chamber. We knew there was a lot of potential to develop the piston further."

http://chris-pickering.com/wp-conten...ESTAlowres.pdf

The original fiesta r5 was a 2.0 turbo production engine , de stroked to 1.6 so effectively the cylinder head is a slightly modified standard ford 2.0 turbo direct injection , think originally it was out of a volvo model

i believe the new r5 will be something similiar

[Allez Andruet]

that's only public speech

And why in the world would they feel the need to lie about such thing?

[dimviii]

And why in the world would they feel the need to lie about such thing?

just for reference,they said ''supporting''

[Allez Andruet]

just for reference,they said ''supporting''

Yes, in a sentence which first part read "we’re not funding anybody this year apart from Elfyn and Teemu".

[AnttiL]

I hate to use arguments like this on forums but I’ve heard Suninen being paid from an ”inside source” as well.

[dimviii]

Yes, in a sentence which first part read "we’re not funding anybody this year apart from Elfyn and Teemu".

funding can be the costs running at wrc,doesnt mean salary.

[dimviii]

I hate to use arguments like this on forums but I’ve heard Suninen being paid from an ”inside source” as well.

i dont have any sources,i just wrote what i read at their interview.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The original fiesta r5 was a 2.0 turbo production engine , de stroked to 1.6 so effectively the cylinder head is a slightly modified standard ford 2.0 turbo direct injection , think originally it was out of a volvo model

i believe the new r5 will be something similiar

Thanks. Can you get any confirmation of this from a good source ?

BTW, why do M-Sport use a new Fiesta ST as the base for their rally car when it is going to be totally stripped and just the shell used ? Does it have to be registered as a Fiesta ST ?

[Tarmop]

I believe you already argued about it in this thread, around October and got a credible answer from a person supervising building a Fiesta R5 with international homologation somewhere here. If you don`t remember:

I'm currently supervising build of R5 Fiesta, chassis of which was made from used road car with some 60k km on the clock. All paperwork from M-Sport and FIA is done and is fully correct, so I know what I'm writing. It can be ST or Ecoboost model. It needs to be based on normal road car as needs to have proper VIN number. And engine is not based on ST road car, actually engine for current Fiesta is based on some 1,8 engine from Mondeo I think. It just needs to be engine from the group. Engine for new Fiesta will be based on 2,0l from US market.

Says also, what`s going to be used in the new car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I believe you already argued about it in this thread, around October and got a credible answer from a person supervising building a Fiesta R5 with international homologation somewhere here. If you don`t remember:


Says also, what`s going to be used in the new car.

Yes, I remember it well and dont doubt it.

I just wondered where the info can be found 'officially' since I cant find anything but ST Ecoboost references for the R5.on every website...