WRC2 and WRC3 season 2015

[Mirek]

Finally we must agree that M-Sport decision to come out so early with their R5 was good. They have sold over 100 cars already (and still selling good) and you can imagine the amount of feedback they have got + spare parts they have sold as well...

Agree and I have to admit I was skeptical about their rushed entry...

And about the reliability. R5 car is not WRC and with that price it is not easy to build bulletproof car. If you keep it on the road and drive it in a local championship lenght rallies then the reliability is good enough, except 208 T16, so far:-P

I tend to disagree with this part. The R5 aren't reasonably cheaper than S2000 (I asked one team which run both Fabia S2000 and Fiesta R5 and they told me the running cost is nearly same) but their reliability is a lot worse. The more developed S2000 were very reliable cars.

[tommeke_B]

Well, if you compare the first R5 car (Fiesta) to the first S2000 car (Punto)... DS3 R5 is quite reliable I think. In total there were 16 starts with DS3 R5 in Belgium so far. 11 finishes, 1 mechanical retirement, 1 crash, 2 retirements with broken wheel after crash/driving too long with puncture (both in Spa), 1 excluded. So 1 mechanical retirement on 12 complete events, and it's interesting to mention that this retirement was on the very first outing of DS3 R5 of Verschueren in Ypres last year.

[cali]

In Belgium you drive mostly on tarmac, we should get some statistics about gravel/rough gravel events as well. Stats could change dramatically Although in local Estonian events R5 cars so far have performed well on every aspect, we have rallies around 100 stage km's which is not that much.

[tommeke_B]

In Belgium you drive mostly on tarmac, we should get some statistics about gravel/rough gravel events as well. Stats could change dramatically Although in local Estonian events R5 cars so far have performed well on every aspect, we have rallies around 100 stage km's which is not that much.

I'm sure that Belgian stages as demanding for mechanical components as gravel stages like in Nordic/Baltic regions. It's there are different types of tarmac, some very grippy, there are some gravel parts that are too brutal for tarmac set-up imo, there are very long straights that let cars go to RPM limiter, combined with junctions that lets cars brake all the way back to 1st gear to accelerate all the way again. It's different, but not less demanding than most gravel events I think. Also events here are longer than in most (not all) national championships, in average some 200km SS. Spa Rally was 200km SS, Condroz 243km SS, Rallye de Wallonie on first weekend of May will be 250km SS. Haspengouw had some brutal gravel sections that caused some drivers to retire (including a Lancer '05 WRC, where I've seen the wheel break off from big holes on a straight). Biggest difference between WRC and national events in Belgium is the amount of service the cars get, in Belgium there is probably 2x as much service as in WRC, compared to the SS kms they have to do.

[Ounin]

To say the DS3 R5 is quite reliable in Belhium is too early in the Champioship. We just had second rally this year last week at Spa. On the RPM limiter side you are right, engine wise they have to go through some tough sections, on suspension side, cutting corners as what they do in Belgium is some thing, but pure rocky gravel sections is something very different the DS 3 as well as the Peugeot have to prove their strength. I remind you that there was some hesitation of Karl Kruuda with his new DS3 R5 in beginning of the season he postponed WRC Sweden as I recall after having problems on the Arctic.

[Fly]

Riepilogo - WRC3

Juan-Renè Perry (FRA - Adam R2): POR, POL, FIN
Simone Tempestini (ITA): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Al Muntawaa (EAU): POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Terry Folb (FRA): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, ESP, WAL, FRA
Quentin Gilbert (FRA): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, ESP, WAL
Alessandro Re (ITA): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Christian Riedemann (DEU): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Christian Veiby (NOR): MCO, SWE, POR, POL, FIN, ESP, WAL
Stèphane Consani (FRA - Clio R3T): MC, + da decidere
Yohan Rossel (FRA): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Kornèl Lukàks (HUN): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Charlotte Dalmasso (FRA): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Daniel McKenna (NIR): MCO, POR, POL, FIN, FRA, ESP, WAL
Fabio Andolfi (ITA - R2): POR, ITA + da confermare
Giuseppe Testa (ITA - R2): POR, ITA + da confermare
Loiuse Cook (GBR - Fiesta R2): POR, ITA, WAL + da decidere[/QUOTE]

According to the article on http://rallynorthwales.co.uk , You cab add Osian Pryce. He will will step up to Junior WRC. Don'y know if it's been said before.
Although I've never seen him live, I bet he'll be one to follow.
With Meeke, Cronin, McKenna and Pryce (+Breen, Fisher, Ingram or Armstrong in ERC) GB and Ireland seem to wake up.

[Tom206wrc]

New entrant from France in WRC2: Pierre Lafay with his Fiesta R5

[Co-FIN]

Finnish magazine "Iltasanomat" posted article in their website revealing that Teemu Suninen will do rest of european events (8) in WRC2 season this year. Car is probably Toni Gardemaister´s Skoda S2000. Article says also that he will do some other races abroad also, starting from Rally Adriatico, Italy. He will be co-driven by Mikko Markkula.

Source: http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ralli/art-...ypes=og.shares

[vino_93]

Is he finally supported by Toyota or not ?

[Co-FIN]

Timo Jouhki is backing him, nothing sure about toyota. Only rumours


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