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    Is there a need for a BRC?? Most competitors are quite happy with 45 mile BTRDA events, all done in 1 day. BRC events are rather expensive - and coverage is pretty poor.
    The days of the British Open, and the F2 era have long gone.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by nafpaktos View Post
    Can somebody inform me why they need so much time to revamp the championship?and one more question because i don't have knowledge of things in the island.exept for the BRC what other options have the drives?i mean for this year and for the next one.please be specific in the answers because as i told i am irrelevant to things in the island.thanks in advance!
    BRC was a useless farce... they thought by banning the 4wd cars a few years ago cars they would make the championship more competitive but that basically excluded all the rich boys that wanted to run expensive toys so the championship had no interest.

    Apart from the british rally championship we have the BTRDA championship(s), they have both tarmac championship and gravel (something like the joke gravel/tarmac cups in Greece but since this is a country which is inhabited by humans it is actually pretty fun) which attracted all the WRCs/N4s and the heavily modified escorts (some worth around 200.000 pounds). From a driving point of view the BTRDA is just an assortment of overweight old people with money but some of them actually are good to watch.

    In general rallying in the UK from a driving point of view is very very low compared to countries like France/Czech republic even italy, but they use some amazing cars and they have quite a lot events to spectate which gather around 100-120 drivers so it is not that bad...

    http://www.btrda.com/index.php this is the webpage for BTRDA, go to championships and then go to asphalt and forest rallies to see the rounds.

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    I gave up on the BRC a few years ago, when it went 2WD.

    Compared to what it was like in the 'good old days' of the 80's & 90's it went from bad, to worse, to pathetic.

    I've watched the Irish Tarmac Champ and the MSA Asphalt Champ instead, which have at least had some decent WRC machinery.

    If the BRC doesnt have at least R5 cars in future it might as well not bother.
    #M-SPORTER

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    I think the only way it can go is to try and be the best domestic championship, otherwise who (in terms of fans) would bother showing any interest?

    It's all well and good claiming that the move to 2WD and national distance events worked but nobody was interested in watching R3 and R2 cars quietly making their way through the forests. The old management often cited Elfyn Evans as proof of the format's success but that's ONE guy out of, what, 2 years? 3 years? Not enough to prove it was the format of the championship or just the fact that Malcolm Wilson thought he was good enough to get a WRC seat this year.

    The BRC should never have been about being a feeder into JWRC, which is really all it was claiming to be up to this year. If the MSA have more sense than Rally UK did they'll try and get the domestic importers involved like in Italy, Germany, France, Czech Republic etc etc and have good quality events like the Manx, R.A.C. (I can only dream) & Rally GB.

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    So if no BRC this season where the Citroën Racing Trophy UK/Irl will take place

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    It's not certain to go ahead this year but I read in Motorsports News a while ago that they are trying to put something together for this year. I may be wrong but perhaps they want to run it as part of the BTRDA series, can't quite remember now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack4688` View Post
    I think the only way it can go is to try and be the best domestic championship, otherwise who (in terms of fans) would bother showing any interest?

    It's all well and good claiming that the move to 2WD and national distance events worked but nobody was interested in watching R3 and R2 cars quietly making their way through the forests. The old management often cited Elfyn Evans as proof of the format's success but that's ONE guy out of, what, 2 years? 3 years? Not enough to prove it was the format of the championship or just the fact that Malcolm Wilson thought he was good enough to get a WRC seat this year.

    The BRC should never have been about being a feeder into JWRC, which is really all it was claiming to be up to this year. If the MSA have more sense than Rally UK did they'll try and get the domestic importers involved like in Italy, Germany, France, Czech Republic etc etc and have good quality events like the Manx, R.A.C. (I can only dream) & Rally GB.
    I'm not sure the domestic importers are interested. The BTCC is the biggest Motorsport series in the UK, and it is privateers; I'm almost certain there is no official Manufacturer involvement. What the BTCC had is massive coverage from TV, and gives fans, teams & drivers what they want = a succesful series. BSB, and British GT are also in decent health. The BRC is the opposite, and has been for years; mainly because nobody knows what to do with it. I'm not confident the MSA will do any better; rallying isn't their strong point.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    The massive resurgence of Wales Rally GB in 2013 & 2014 shows the fans are still out there and what they will come out to watch. There has to be some top level, exciting cars in the BRC - thats what puts people out in the forests...

    Its noise and spectacle people want and that means R5 cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Its noise and spectacle people want and that means R5 cars.
    Where's the link between noise and R5? There was only one "noisy" R5 car in Wales Rally GB and it was the DS3 R5 of Lefebvre...

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