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12th February 2008, 19:48 #21
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If i could decide, i would move it to the Sälen area Ski resorts. There's plenty of accommodation there, lots of snow (currently 1m+) and lots of nice roads suitable for SSs. The only problem would be that there are only 1 main road leading up from Sälen village to the ski resorts.
If they moved here they could arrange some combination offers with 1 week of sking+rally for XXXX kr. Like sking mon-thu and then 3 days of rallying.
Bengt Clarin claims that the rally village is a huge success but its not since the rally village is some 80km south of the most sothern stages very few is intrested in driving down to Karlstad to walk through an empty service park. Its empty becasue all cars are up in the Hagfors/Sunne area at the stages or at the remote services.
But if they would move away from Karlstad and Värmland the Buissneses of Karlstad and Värmland would loose allot of money. But in IMO its the Swedish rally and not rally Värmland.
I think they need to choose if they want a proper snow rally they need to move to somewhere where its not only snow safe but to somewhere where they get more then 20cm of snow otherwise they will have to get used to a gravel rally.
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12th February 2008, 20:54 #22
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Originally Posted by Brother John
Maybe I should add also that it is not only promotors that enjoy snow, spectators and the staff within the teams, from drivers to chef, likes it aswell of course. But their and our thoughts are of little value...Winner Best Signature Championship 2007! Winner of BSC 2008! Winner of BSC 2009!
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12th February 2008, 21:31 #23
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12th February 2008, 21:38 #24
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Originally Posted by A.F.F.There are two rules for success
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12th February 2008, 21:40 #25
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13th February 2008, 10:22 #26
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13th February 2008, 11:09 #27
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Originally Posted by cosmicpanda
If it was supposed to be winter rally it was a farce.
To my knowledge Sweden is supposed to be only winter rally in the calendar.
The concept of winter rally of course involves beatiful snow benches and icy roads.
After hearing comments from this Bengt-guy my humble recommendation is to give the rally to norwegians.I am a big fan of Andy Aigner
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13th February 2008, 12:38 #28
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As a swede I am obviously very sad that what was once are very nice rally has turned into a muddy mess
**** global warming...
At the same time I belive that the existence of a norwegian alternative makes the USR more safe in the calendar, because then it is not th only snowrally (but one of a dozen gravelrallies... )Winner Best Signature Championship 2007! Winner of BSC 2008! Winner of BSC 2009!
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13th February 2008, 12:47 #29
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Originally Posted by Finni
And you are of course spot on when it comes to the "concept of winter rally".
Whats the point of running a winter rally on gravel and mud?
The problem with moving the Swedish Rally is that the city of Karlstad and the county of Värmland will be strongly against it. So this is a political issue first and foremost. Then there is the question of infrastructure. Karlstad and Värmland undeniably has a solid infrastructure for running of a WRC-event. Where else, further up north in Sweden, do you find the combination of a large enough city with plenty of hotels and a road system in the area suitable for running a mainevent rally. Some of the swedish forumers could possibly give some answers?
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13th February 2008, 13:02 #30
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Imo a move north i Värmland and Dalarna should be enough. We went from Malung last friday and we had between -6 and -10 degreesf vhen we passed the start of old Granberget stage (former Likenäs stage). Up there a lot of stages has been used previous years, around Likenäs and Malung. The stages around Hagfors is normally quite ok even if its warm degrees.
Rally base in Karlstad and remote service in Hagfors and Malung? And a SSS around Sälen? MC i run far from Monte Carlo, som why not do the same in Sweden?
For me I dont really care if they move to Östersund. Ive been to most of the stages they use today in Värmland, so something new would be exciting. How about a special stage on Lake Åre? That would be something!
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