ING Renault F1 Team launch new team logo - First Pic

[ioan]

Found something like this. Front nose and wing look interesting. Also the placing of mirrors. :

What mirrors?! Those are no mirrors anymore those are f***ing aero devices and I hope that the FIA will ban them!

[Ranger]

What mirrors?! Those are no mirrors anymore those are f***ing aero devices and I hope that the FIA will ban them!

My my, we can't have a bit of innovation, can we?

They are not moving aero parts so they are not illegal. If these should be illegal, then so should Ferrari's wheel covers - which are essentially devices which do the thing its supposed to do and secondarily, contribute to the aerodynamics of the car - just like the mirrors you see on this one. Why the fuss?

I'd say thats a pretty damn good car.

[SuperAguri]

Where did you find those? Because I like what I see!

I found my shot on another motorsport forum.

[ioan]

My my, we can't have a bit of innovation, can we?

They are not moving aero parts so they are not illegal. If these should be illegal, then so should Ferrari's wheel covers - which are essentially devices which do the thing its supposed to do and secondarily, contribute to the aerodynamics of the car - just like the mirrors you see on this one. Why the fuss?

I'd say thats a pretty damn good car.

Who the hell said they are moving parts?

What about the positioning of those mirror supports?
How easy it will be to have them broken in a little toss at the start! Will it be a car without mirrors considered safe enough when racing at 250+ kmh?

Give it a thought before slamming me.

[jens]

There is another aspect of the mirrors that makes me a bit curious. Driver has to turn his head too much to actually see something from there, so he might lose concentration about other stuff that is going on at the same time. Or not? :

[POS_Maggott]

Who the hell said they are moving parts?

What about the positioning of those mirror supports?
How easy it will be to have them broken in a little toss at the start! Will it be a car without mirrors considered safe enough when racing at 250+ kmh?

Give it a thought before slamming me.

If I remember correctly, the FIA had nothing to say about it being dangerous when the mirror came off the McLaren a couple times this season.

[ioan]

If I remember correctly, the FIA had nothing to say about it being dangerous when the mirror came off the McLaren a couple times this season.

Well, they should have said something.

[Ranger]

Give it a thought before slamming me.

Sorry. But I still don't get why the FIA should remove them, considering nothing was done about several other cases of missing mirrors last year.

[pino]

Who the hell said they are moving parts?

What about the positioning of those mirror supports?
How easy it will be to have them broken in a little toss at the start! Will it be a car without mirrors considered safe enough when racing at 250+ kmh?

Give it a thought before slamming me.

Ioan, please cool down a bit, you're taking everything too seriously, get mad too quickly, and the season hasn't started yet...

[ioan]

Sorry. But I still don't get why the FIA should remove them, considering nothing was done about several other cases of missing mirrors last year.

Fair enough, just that the new Renault mirrors are designed like if they would be seeking this kind of troubles.
Last years "elephant ears" achieved about the same aero effects but at least were not in a danger to lose the mirrors together with them.