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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky1329
    At least the Classic standings are real.
    It is what it is, Brian France is a F-up and needs to leave along with POS Sprint and Nationwide
    Brian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)

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    after Chase Race #5 and/or 2007 Nextel Cup Race #31 @ Charlotte
    --CHASE Points Standings (Adjusted) / “CLASSIC” Points Standings (Actual)
    01. 5880 points --- Jeff Gordon ---------- 01. 4689 points --- Jeff Gordon
    02. 5812 points --- Jimmie Johnson ----- 02. 4189 points --- Tony Stewart
    03. 5802 points --- Clint Bowyer ---------03. 4091 points --- Jimmie Johnson
    04. 5682 points --- Tony Stewart ------- 04. 4022 points --- Carl Edwards
    05. 5640 points --- Carl Edwards ------- 05. 4006 points --- Denny Hamlin
    06. 5600 points --- Kyle Busch ---------- 06. 3981 points --- Clint Bowyer
    07. 5565 points --- Kurt Busch ---------- 07. 3892 points --- Kyle Busch
    08. 5552 points --- Kevin Harvick ------- 08. 3863 points --- Matt Kenseth
    09. 5531 points --- Denny Hamlin -------09. 3837 points --- Jeff Burton
    10. 5514 points --- Jeff Burton ---------- 10. 3710 points --- Kurt Busch
    11. 5502 points --- Martin Truex Jr ----- 11. 3697 points --- Kevin Harvick
    12. 5438 points --- Matt Kenseth ------ 12. 3552 points --- Martin Truex Jr
    13. 3527 points --- Dale Earnhardt Jr - 13. 3527 points --- Dale Earnhardt Jr
    14. 3405 points --- Casey Mears ------- 14. 3405 points --- Casey Mears
    15. 3390 points --- Ryan Newman ----- 15. 3390 points --- Ryan Newman
    16. 3385 points --- Greg Biffle ---------- 16. 3385 points --- Greg Biffle
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    after Chase Race #6 and/or 2007 Nextel Cup Race #32 @ Martinsville
    --CHASE Points Standings (Adjusted) / “CLASSIC” Points Standings (Actual)
    01. 6055 points---Jeff Gordon ------------ 01. 4864 points---Jeff Gordon
    02. 6002 points---Jimmie Johnson ------- 02. 4313 points---Tony Stewart
    03. 5940 points---Clint Bowyer ---------- 03. 4281 points---Jimmie Johnson
    04. 5806 points---Tony Stewart --------- 04. 4156 points---Denny Hamlin
    05. 5767 points---Carl Edwards --------- 05. 4152 points---Carl Edwards
    06. 5765 points---Kyle Busch ------------ 06. 4119 points---Clint Bowyer
    07. 5686 points---Kevin Harvick --------- 07. 4057 points---Kyle Busch
    08. 5681 points---Denny Hamlin -------- 08. 4018 points---Matt Kenseth
    09. 5649 points---Jeff Burton ------------ 09. 3969 points---Jeff Burton
    10. 5635 points---Kurt Busch------------- 10. 3831 points---Kevin Harvick
    11. 5608 points---Martin Truex Jr ------- 11. 3780 points---Kurt Busch
    12. 5593 points---Matt Kenseth -------- 12. 3758 points---Martin Truex Jr
    13. 3626 points---Dale Earnhardt Jr --- 13. 3626 points---Dale Earnhardt Jr
    14. 3560 points---Ryan Newman ------- 14. 3560 points---Ryan Newman
    15. 3531 points---Greg Biffle ------------ 15. 3531 points---Greg Biffle
    16. 3508 points---Casey Mears --------- 16. 3508 points---Casey Mears

    Some big winners using "Classic" scoring :
    Tony Stewart jumps from 4th (Chase) to 2nd (Classic)
    Denny Hamlin jumps from 8th (Chase) to 4th (Classic)
    Matt Kenseth jumps from 12th (Chase) to 8th (Classic)

    Some big losers using "Classic" scoring :
    Clint Bowyer drops from 3rd (Chase) to 6th (Classic)
    Kevin Harvick drops from 7th (Chase) to 10th (Classic)
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    Good thread, interesting thread.

    Jeff Gordon has over a 1000 point lead over Harvick and has dominated the season.
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    when you take a lot at most of Harvick's races, you can only laugh them off how much bad luck hes had

    he should easily have well over 500 or so more points from just bad luck

    but this is what it is, there is no more 36 season standing schedule, it ended in 2003, there is the playoff now and those classic standing don't mean anything, because nascar doesn't use them anymore, and prolly never will again
    Brian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)

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    Lightbulb the classic points are REAL !!!

    Yeah, the young bucks may embrace the Chase ...

    but to us long-time fans the classic points mean something ...
    the classic points system was used when :
    Jeff Gordon won the most races & TOOK 4 championships by total domination ... (1995-1997-1998-2001)

    Bobby Labonte (2000) & Terry Labonte (1984-1996) masterfully used consistancy to win championships ...

    Dale Earnhardt AGGRESIVELY drove for every point to be "the man" 7 times ...
    (1980-1986-1987-1990-1991-1993-1994)

    Alan Kulwicki did the math to edge Bill Elliott by 10 points in the LAST race of the season ... (1992)

    Rusty Wallace finally got his well-deserved championship ... (1989)
    (several times Rusty Wallace won the most races but fell short for the championship)

    Bill Elliott won the most races & edged Rusty Wallace by only 24 points ... (1988)

    Darrell Waltrip raced with his ability & his intelligence to win the championship 3 times ... (1981-1982-1985)
    The Champions I listed above raced EVERY race to the best of their ability & used all their cars could give.

    The CLASSIC Points were for the ENTIRE season, not a phony 10 race "winner take all" senario !
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceFanStan
    Yeah, the young bucks may embrace the Chase ...

    but to us long-time fans the classic points mean something ...
    the classic points system was used when :
    Jeff Gordon won the most races & TOOK 4 championships by total domination ... (1995-1997-1998-2001)

    Bobby Labonte (2000) & Terry Labonte (1984-1996) masterfully used consistancy to win championships ...

    Dale Earnhardt AGGRESIVELY drove for every point to be "the man" 7 times ...
    (1980-1986-1987-1990-1991-1993-1994)

    Alan Kulwicki did the math to edge Bill Elliott by 10 points in the LAST race of the season ... (1992)

    Rusty Wallace finally got his well-deserved championship ... (1989)
    (several times Rusty Wallace won the most races but fell short for the championship)

    Bill Elliott won the most races & edged Rusty Wallace by only 24 points ... (1988)

    Darrell Waltrip raced with his ability & his intelligence to win the championship 3 times ... (1981-1982-1985)
    The Champions I listed above raced EVERY race to the best of their ability & used all their cars could give.

    The CLASSIC Points were for the ENTIRE season, not a phony 10 race "winner take all" senario !
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceFanStan
    Bobby Labonte (2000) & Terry Labonte (1984-1996) masterfully used consistancy to win championships ...
    *cough* *cough* Matt Kenseth *cough* in 2003 too! *cough* *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by tstran17_88
    *cough* *cough* Matt Kenseth *cough* in 2003 too! *cough* *cough*
    your driver was the main reason of the stupid chase :
    Brian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tstran17_88
    *cough* *cough* Matt Kenseth *cough* in 2003 too! *cough* *cough*
    Quote Originally Posted by harvick#1
    your driver was the main reason of the stupid chase :
    As I have already stated, Kenseth would have won with any point system.

    http://www.nascar.com/2003/news/opin...ith/index.html

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