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  1. 2nd October 2007, 04:46 #1
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    "Classic" Points Standings

    NASCAR says everyone loves the Chase .....
    I'm sure there has to be some people who don't like it .....

    after Chase Race #3 and/or 2007 Nextel Cup Race #29 @ Kansas
    -- Chase Standings (Adjusted) --- --- “Classic” Standings (Actual)
    01. Jimmie Johnson . 5506 points --- 01. Jeff Gordon ..... 4309 points
    02. Jeff Gordon ...... 5500 points --- 02. Tony Stewart .. 3896 points
    03. Clint Bowyer .... 5492 points --- 03. Jimmie Johnson . 3785 points
    04. Tony Stewart .. 5389 points --- 04. Carl Edwards .... 3741 points
    05. Kevin Harvick ... 5380 points --- 05. Denny Hamlin ... 3738 points
    06. Kyle Busch ...... 5370 points --- 06. Matt Kenseth ... 3707 points
    07. Carl Edwards ... 5364 points --- 07. Clint Bowyer ..... 3671 points
    08. Martin Truex Jr. 5348 points --- 08. Kyle Busch ....... 3662 points
    09. Kurt Busch ...... 5329 points --- 09. Jeff Burton ...... 3638 points
    10. Jeff Burton ...... 5320 points --- 10. Kevin Harvick .. 3525 points
    11. Matt Kenseth .. 5287 points --- 11. Kurt Busch ...... 3469 points
    12. Denny Hamlin .. 5258 points --- 12. Martin Truex Jr. 3398 points

    There might even be some drivers who like the actual points better .....
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  2. 2nd October 2007, 06:34 #2
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    the chase ... the "debris caution" within the championship. Hey, why don't they do a 6 car green-white-checker with the last three races?
    I still think the Chase is Bull.

    And thats not only because I root for the 24.
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  3. 2nd October 2007, 15:31 #3
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    After seeing the difference, I like the Chase now.....
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  4. 2nd October 2007, 16:36 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceFanStan
    NASCAR says everyone loves the Chase .....
    I'm sure there has to be some people who don't like it .....

    -- Chase Standings (Adjusted) --- --- “Classic” Standings (Actual)
    01. Jimmie Johnson . 5506 points --- 01. Jeff Gordon ..... 4309 points
    02. Jeff Gordon ...... 5500 points --- 02. Tony Stewart .. 3896 points
    03. Clint Bowyer .... 5492 points --- 03. Jimmie Johnson . 3785 points
    04. Tony Stewart .. 5389 points --- 04. Carl Edwards .... 3741 points
    05. Kevin Harvick ... 5380 points --- 05. Denny Hamlin ... 3738 points
    06. Kyle Busch ...... 5370 points --- 06. Matt Kenseth ... 3707 points
    07. Carl Edwards ... 5364 points --- 07. Clint Bowyer ..... 3671 points
    08. Martin Truex Jr. 5348 points --- 08. Kyle Busch ....... 3662 points
    09. Kurt Busch ...... 5329 points --- 09. Jeff Burton ...... 3638 points
    10. Jeff Burton ...... 5320 points --- 10. Kevin Harvick .. 3525 points
    11. Matt Kenseth .. 5287 points --- 11. Kurt Busch ...... 3469 points
    12. Denny Hamlin .. 5258 points --- 12. Martin Truex Jr. 3398 points

    There might even be some drivers who like the actual points better .....
    At least the Classic standings are real.
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  5. 2nd October 2007, 18:02 #5
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    Anyone go back and calculate the points standings using the various points systems used before the "classic" one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
    After seeing the difference, I like the Chase now.....
    Try the classic system with the drivers worst say 4 (10%) races removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesi
    Try the classic system with the drivers worst say 4 (10%) races removed.
    Jonesi does that eliminate the "bad luck factor"?

    edit: checking 1996 when Jeff Gordon and Labonte had identical stats except for wins (21 top 5, 24 top ten)

    Jeff (10 wins), wins over Terry(2 wins) that way and IMO would have been a more deserving champion.
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  8. 5th October 2007, 07:02 #8
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    Here's an article from the magical land of 2003 that shows how well boring, old, consistent, Matt Kensith would have done with point systems that put more emphasis on winning.

    http://www.nascar.com/2003/news/opin...ith/index.html
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  9. 9th October 2007, 02:09 #9
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    Chase Points vs "Classic" Points

    after Chase Race #4 and/or 2007 Nextel Cup Race #30 @ Talladega
    --- Chase Standings (Adjusted) ------- “Classic” Standings (Actual) ---
    01. Jeff Gordon ......... 5690 points --- 01. Jeff Gordon ......... 4499 points
    02. Jimmie Johnson ... 5681 points --- 02. Tony Stewart ..... 4043 points
    03. Clint Bowyer ....... 5627 points --- 03. Jimmie Johnson ... 3960 points
    04. Tony Stewart ..... 5536 points --- 04. Denny Hamlin ...... 3903 points
    05. Carl Edwards ..... 5490 points --- 05. Carl Edwards ....... 3867 points
    06. Kevin Harvick ..... 5488 points --- 06. Clint Bowyer ........ 3806 points
    07. Kurt Busch ......... 5480 points --- 07. Matt Kenseth ...... 3797 points
    08. Kyle Busch ......... 5430 points --- 08. Kyle Busch .......... 3722 points
    09. Denny Hamlin ..... 5423 points --- 09. Jeff Burton ......... 3677 points
    10. Martin Truex Jr ... 5390 points --- 10. Kevin Harvick ..... 3633 points
    11. Matt Kenseth ..... 5377 points --- 11. Kurt Busch ......... 3620 points
    12. Jeff Burton ......... 5359 points --- 12. Martin Truex Jr ... 3440 points
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  10. 14th October 2007, 16:57 #10
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    RFS, i am anxious to see the Classic point standings after Lowes. Should be interesting.
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