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    VERSTAPPEN, the man!

    What a performance!

    Verstappen drove a race of a champion. This is the sort of performance that Norris needed to put out to be Championship-winning material this season.

    I think the driver's championship is done now. It is all about the constructors now. McLaren has to do their best to win the constructors title.
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    McLaren gave the race away by pitting for tires before the red flag. That was it right there, both race and championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Used to be Starter View Post
    McLaren gave the race away by pitting for tires before the red flag. That was it right there, both race and championship.
    McLaren is not to blame for how things turned out. It was a bizarre race that was right in Verstappen's playbook.
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    Fun race. I was engaged for the whole race. Great drive by Max.

    I don't understand why the teams give up track positions so quickly (Leclerc showed early that it was not a winning strategy). They knew a significant rain was coming and that the likelihood of a red flag from a big crash or unsafe conditions was likely.

    Personally, I wished they would change the red flag rules from allowing tires changes there to count for their required pitstop. Let them change tires if needed, but still make them make their required pit stop.

    McLaren will kick themselves when they look at what could have been for the 2024 season.

    Alpine may have saved their season with this one race.

    I will be interested to hear what comes of "aborted start". That was dangerous because of the people and equipment out there in harms way. The FIA should not leave it to teams to have the ability to screw up the messaging.

    Lawson beating Perez...his seat is getting hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post
    I will be interested to hear what comes of "aborted start". That was dangerous because of the people and equipment out there in harms way. The FIA should not leave it to teams to have the ability to screw up the messaging.
    They gave Norris and Russel a fine of 5,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post

    Lawson beating Perez...his seat is getting hot.
    Lawson has adopted Verstappen's approach to racing. He is very dangerous to overtake as Alonso, Hamilton and Perez discovered. All of these guys have had collisions with Lawson. He claims not to be in F1 to make friends which says it all really. He is certainly earning himself a reputation.
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    Hamilton says he would rather take a holiday for the rest of the season. This is an indication of how disgusted he is of the Mercedes under him. This season we have seen the dark side of Mercedes. An obvious politically correct way of diminishing their support for the Hamilton side of the garage. It is hard to do this sort of thing to a driver of Hamilton's calibre without it being obvious. Because he has excelled at most tracks on the calendar. So when he is down the order at tracks he has won multiple times, it is glaringly clear what is going on. Hamilton tenth on a wet Sao Paulo track with the other Mercedes in the top five, borders on reckless disregard of what anyone thinks.

    It is clear though that the champ is now going through the motions and can't wait to be out of there.

    I say shame on Mercedes, we see it and it is not pretty. This is the sort of race that Mercedes should be winning. Low hanging fruit which the Alpines grabbed when it could easily be both Mercedes if they were operating fairly and focussed on exploiting the clear opportunity that the rain presented.
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    If Hamilton really said that , I say let him take that holiday .

    The words "disgusting" and "shameful" come to mind .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwan View Post
    if hamilton really said that , i say let him take that holiday .

    The words "disgusting" and "shameful" come to mind .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    Hamilton says he would rather take a holiday for the rest of the season. This is an indication of how disgusted he is of the Mercedes under him. This season we have seen the dark side of Mercedes. An obvious politically correct way of diminishing their support for the Hamilton side of the garage. It is hard to do this sort of thing to a driver of Hamilton's calibre without it being obvious. Because he has excelled at most tracks on the calendar. So when he is down the order at tracks he has won multiple times, it is glaringly clear what is going on. Hamilton tenth on a wet Sao Paulo track with the other Mercedes in the top five, borders on reckless disregard of what anyone thinks.

    It is clear though that the champ is now going through the motions and can't wait to be out of there.

    I say shame on Mercedes, we see it and it is not pretty. This is the sort of race that Mercedes should be winning. Low hanging fruit which the Alpines grabbed when it could easily be both Mercedes if they were operating fairly and focussed on exploiting the clear opportunity that the rain presented.
    It's highly unlikely that is what is happening. There are too many incentives, monetary and otherwise, for any team to do that. With the exception of a team like Williams, which didn't have the resources to have two up to date cars. I think Hamilton is done with Merc and is just going through the motions. To be competitive at this level you have to be on point all the time and he hasn't been. He's still better than maybe half the grid, but right now he is toast as far as being really there. If he doesn't get it together for the start of 2025 he may be one and done at Ferrari.
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