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13th November 2024, 19:08 #101
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I'm certainly not claiming that their analysis and description how parts work or influence airflow is wrong. I just think there is at times a overestimation of how much load is produced or how much influence certain aspects have on the general load.
But this is a general misconception in regards of aero, people talk about down force on roadcars, yet 99% of roadcars produce lift. A small spoiler does not automatically produce down force, it just reduces lift for example.
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13th November 2024, 19:42 #102
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14th November 2024, 01:04 #103
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That may well be the case, but he's very good at spinning out the obvious without giving any real conclusions.
That article basically says:
Without hybrid the cars will be slower & if they go slower the aero will give less downforce - he doesn't quantify, because he doesn't know how much.
It then goes on:
Without the hybrid there won't be any need for the cooling ducts so the aero will be beter. Again no attempt to quantify & no attempt to say whether the improvement in aero due to removing the hybrid cooling will be more or less than any loss due to lack of speed.
You might just as well say that the cars will be slower with full fuel tanks. It's all too superficial to learn anything.
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14th November 2024, 08:53 #104
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14th November 2024, 09:25 #105
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Completely agree and why I've wanted to see Rally2 as top class for a while - I do get the 'it might make costs spiral' argument (which I'm not convinced on, but it's plausible), but not so much the cars being unspectacular, because the drivers make the cars spectacular.
When you watch the top guys really pushing Rally2's they are plenty spectacular, especially when they have a bit less - go watch Neuville's various runs in R5s and Rally2s in Ypres; car moves around more, has less rear grip.
That hope is gone, but for me it's the drivers that make the cars spectacular at the top 4wd level, with how far they're willing and able to push them beyond their limit.aka Rodger Davies
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14th November 2024, 09:27 #106
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He does make some conclusions though, even if the amounts aren't yet quantifiable.
And when teams make regular changes to such small things as door mirror design, you have to admit that these new changes will be seen as having a significant effect on the cars' (in perfect condition).
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14th November 2024, 12:15 #107
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''We have officially signed a contract with the WRC Promoter for organizing the European Rally Championship (ERC) in 2025 and the World Rally Championship (WRC) in 2026 and 2027. The ERC Croatia Rally will take place in October 2025, while the WRC event will continue to be hosted in April as in previous years.'' official Croatia Rally FB account.
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14th November 2024, 15:47 #108
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14th November 2024, 18:50 #109
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This start to become massive BS - i like Fourmaux, but after one plus minus decent season to play this all out like he would be some kind of superstart, might turn into some PR disaster. He has not won a rally yet. What if he switches to Hyundai, but would not be able to drive it ( number of those who failed is bigger than those who mastered it). All this smoke 2 months till new seasons is bad PR to all, including M-Sport.
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14th November 2024, 19:40 #110
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And also just for one season. He will surely not be in the mix straight away. Look how much Tanak did need to adapt to drive that car. Even this year he looked like he would waste another season try to managing i20.
Adrien also saying that he haven got M-Sport offer yet. So if that moment was before he publicly say he know where he will drive then, it's sure it's Hyundai. But M-Sport is trying to find a budget every year and it's understandable to be the last at the party.
Well, his call. I hope that at least M-Sport would get something from rival team.
It sounds to me like if Ford had provided more money for developing the Puma then M-Sport might've had the chance to keep Fourmaux. Also Malcolm Wilson will pay a top driver (Ogier, Tanak) and...
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