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16th September 2024, 09:16 #11
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You are usually right about these sorts of incidents. But maybe you should watch this one again. This is what SkySport F1 had to say about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnCgiVzg518
It is a shame since Sainz could have finished 2nd. He was the fastest of the top four cars at that stage of the race. Also a shame for Perez, who may have had his best finish this year and beating Verstappen fair and square in the same machinery. We missed out on some more interesting racing to the line. We will never know if a Ferrari win may have materialized in those last few laps.Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
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16th September 2024, 18:17 #12
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I saw what Sky Sports had to say live on air. I don’t agree with it and I wish Anthony Davidson was analysing that one as I think he’d be of the same opinion as me. They haven’t taken all factors into consideration. Overall I think the Stewards got this one right in not penalising either driver, however, I still must lay more of the blame on the guy who had 100% view of everything that was and could happen, not the guy who couldn’t see the other properly and had little room.
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16th September 2024, 23:55 #13
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18th September 2024, 15:10 #14
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That was my initial thought, but l took another look and thought Sainz could also have slowed down knowing it was not practical to carry on at speed with part of the car off track. They both put their foot down and Sainz in a compromised position risked losing it which he did and crashed into Perez. Why should Perez slow down or make it easy for Sainz? This is a race. It is up to Sainz to make a judgment call and realize that his dirty tires off track may compromise his chances of getting past Perez and possibly cause a loss of control.
The thing most are missing is that Perez would have to give up the slipstream from Leclerc, to make way for Sainz who would inherit the slipstream as a consequence. Perez did what any racing driver with a brain would do, hanging out to dry and forcing him to slow down or crash.Last edited by Nitrodaze; 18th September 2024 at 15:14.
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18th September 2024, 15:50 #15
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As an aside, isn't it interesting that the end of the race at Baku has some similarity with Abu Dhabi 2021? The stewards in this race followed the rules appropriately, with a safety car convoy to the end of the race as it has been done for years. But at Abu Dhabi, dodgy Masi allows them to race to the line with one lap to go.
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18th September 2024, 18:38 #16
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They wanted that drama in 2021.
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20th September 2024, 09:06 #17
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You’ve this backwards man. Sainz was ahead and it’s up to the following driver to complete the overtake. Stating that a driver leading should have slowed down in anyway is way off and utterly bananas. He was under no obligation to help Perez. His job is to stay ahead, he did exactly as every lead driver would be entitled to do, took the racing line. The responsibility is on Perez to get by, he didn’t do that. The tow to Leclerc is irrelevant and doesn’t strengthen Checo’s position. Perez should have known Sainz wasn’t going to stay up against the wall. Much like Monaco it was simply another dead brain moment from him.
And if you’re now stating that Perez gave Sainz the slow down or crash ultimatum, then you’re admitting he didn’t give him enough room which is also an admission of guilt for Checo.
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21st September 2024, 07:37 #18
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21st September 2024, 07:44 #19
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Sorry, you missed the point that Sainz was already on track within the white lines before he moved left and touched tires with the Redbull. Yes, he was ahead, but he cannot take the racing line while another car is more than halfway alongside him and on the racing line, that would produce a crash otherwise which it did. Mind you, the contact was between the rear tires of both cars touching, that is how far up alongside Perez was.
Besides, Sainz had more to lose, hence should have used his head to make sure it was a clean pass. I think he may have won the race or finished second at worst, if he were able to pass Perez cleanly. He did not need to move left in an attempt to squeeze Perez. All he had to do was to use his tire advantage to get through without contact.
That in-the-moment intelligence is what separates the great drivers from the rest. Something that Sainz has to learn. Put Piastri in that situation, l am very sure the move would have been completed successfully without contact.Last edited by Nitrodaze; 21st September 2024 at 07:53.
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21st September 2024, 23:40 #20
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