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Thread: 2024 - New Point Scoring System
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19th February 2024, 16:39 #21
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Fan interest is justification for that, check last few pages from last year Rally Japan thread on this forum and you should understand why people who invest their money into WRC want to avoid borefests like that.
The more boring and uneventful WRC rallies we will have, the smaller chance to grow, get new fans, sponsors, manufacturers etc. Not many would care about old motorsport adages, they would just go to watch something else.
Trying to make it more interesting is good thing but those attempts still needs to be balanced and take into consideration competitive spirit of rally to some extent. I doubt people will care that much if Lappi get only 1 point more than Evans in Sweden but rally winner still needs to get more than anyone else. Otherwise any excitement gained from more interesting second half of rally is lost among criticisms of too unfair point structure.
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19th February 2024, 16:51 #22
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19th February 2024, 16:52 #23
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Simple fix. There need to be overall points awarded for total time after Sunday. Ditch Saturday points and move them to the end.
An adjustment could be to increase these back to "normal" levels (25-18-15 etc).
Right now you get trophy for overall time which is not connected with points at all. You can get "winner"points for Saturday and then lose 20 places on Sunday without consequence.
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19th February 2024, 16:57 #24
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I agree with that statement in principle. But the solution should be understanding what it is about certain formats/tech regs/cost issues (i.e. resultant entry numbers) which causes those issues.
An incredibly difficult question to answer I know but probably a more elegant solution will work and have multiple benefits rather than a contrived points system to try and force a situation.
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19th February 2024, 16:59 #25
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I don't mind people's opinions, it isn't about his or mine. What I don't like is when people bring a toxic aggression to the forum that spreads and everybody starts with the low quality posts. I didn't read his post as in jest, but if it was then so was mine. Does Andy have the stones to say that out loud in the WRC offices? Probably not. And we all know what is he going to do about it all - keep watching and whinging.
What I'm going to do about it? I can accept this, and probably more changes, until there's the one rule change I disagree with and turn off. Same as everybody here including you. I won't be yelling to a discussion forum that everybody needs to change their opinion to match mine because they are wrong, or insulting the human beings involved like a two year old trying to get their own way.
I don't believe I ever said it was. It's not. And FWIW not all cruising is to the win. However, I do think it is unwatchable. I've said many times here that I never bothered with Sunday stages in previous seasons."It's not sport!" - Gilles Panizzi
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19th February 2024, 17:02 #26
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Of course improving point system is not something that solve all problems within WRC and I doubt anyone disagree with that but Japan 2023 having current point system (with additional rule ensuring winner gets more points than others) would make it more interesting to watch than it was.
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19th February 2024, 17:16 #27
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"To finish first, you must first finish." - Juan Manuel Fangio
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19th February 2024, 17:19 #28
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OK I interpreted it more like ‘here are some hard facts about motorsport and sport in general, so why did the WRC see it as a problem that needs addressing’ as a discussion point to why the WRC commission decided to make this change. Not as a rude response to people whining about this issue (from either side of the fence).
I honestly think a lot of us, you and I included, would actually have the stones to say “no I don’t actually like this points system” and give a measured answer if pressed why. What I wouldn’t have the stones for would be saying driver X is crap and doesn’t deserve their seat
At the end of the day this is just a discussion forum with no bearing on what the WRC Commission does - perhaps social media comments get more attention from them, I don’t know. But I get it, sometimes comments can come across with no sense of jest as may or may not have been the intention.
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19th February 2024, 17:20 #29
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19th February 2024, 17:22 #30
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First leg he will be thinking in Portuguese championship. Then he can go for WRC2.
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