FIA Rally Working Group: the future of WRC and the rally sport

[denkimi]

In all the major sports in this world, official teams participate, not amateurs.

Forgot about f1?

If redbull can have 2 f1 teams, they can just as easily have a wrc team.

[ictus]

Forgot about f1?

If redbull can have 2 f1 teams, they can just as easily have a wrc team.

If it was profitable they certinly would

[Kenneth]

In all the major sports in this world, official teams participate, not amateurs.

You know in WEC almost all teams are semi-works. Out of 9 manufacturers only Toyota and Peugeot have in-house manufacturer teams, rest of them have Skoda-Toksport like relations. Well there are even some fully customer entries in Hypercar class. LMGT3 class doesn't even allow manufacturer teams, just customer entries with manufacturer's technical support.

In F1 there are only 3 manufacturers teams right now (+McLaren and Aston Martin kinda too but don't make own engines).

So you are totally wrong.

[AndyRAC]

The point is that only manufacturers can afford to travel around the globe and compete in a 13-round championship.

13 rounds is probably too many for a series the size of the WRC; especially in its current state with 2.5 manufacturers. 10 should be the limit. Even 16 was too many back in the early/ mid 00s.......

[WRCStan]

Forgot about f1?

If redbull can have 2 f1 teams, they can just as easily have a wrc team.

Maybe they already do

[WRCStan]

In F1 there are only 3 manufacturers teams right now (+McLaren and Aston Martin kinda too but don't make own engines).

They all make their own chasses (allegedly), and as they're not volume production manufacturers like necessary in WRC they are constructors. On that and Bomber's point they are all commercially viable teams else they wouldn't be there. Bomber isn't totally wrong.

[ToKu]

Cars should have more power.
The decline of the sport is imo proportional to decline of car's power.
Many of "rally friends" who were just occasional, not hardcore, fans dumped rallies after 2014. 2014 was the first WRC year with "smaller" WRC cars in Poland. They missed the "armageddon". The feeling of powerful car (vibration, deep bass, airpreassure, etc.) It was just fast car in 2014. Not insides shaking monster.

P.S. I believe that banning WRC cars from points in lower class rallies in effect from 2005 was the first serious mistake that hurt rallies.

More power = more spectacular rallies = more spectators = ...

[doubled1978]

Cars should have more power.
The decline of the sport is imo proportional to decline of car's power.
Many of "rally friends" who were just occasional, not hardcore, fans dumped rallies after 2014. 2014 was the first WRC year with "smaller" WRC cars in Poland. They missed the "armageddon". The feeling of powerful car (vibration, deep bass, airpreassure, etc.) It was just fast car in 2014. Not insides shaking monster.

P.S. I believe that banning WRC cars from points in lower class rallies in effect from 2005 was the first serious mistake that hurt rallies.

More power = more spectacular rallies = more spectators = ...

More power = more spectacular rallies = more spectators = More cost = less manufactures = less competition = boring rallies = rallying in trouble.

Cars with more power than Rally1 is the last thing we need as the cars are far too expensive as it is and in motorsport you can generally draw a straight line from increased power to increased cost.

[AndyRAC]

More power??? Really? That is not the issue with the sport.......They're more than powerful enough......

[Kenneth]

They all make their own chasses (allegedly), and as they're not volume production manufacturers like necessary in WRC they are constructors. On that and Bomber's point they are all commercially viable teams else they wouldn't be there. Bomber isn't totally wrong.

The part about WEC was more important, so I'll repeat it to you: LMGT3 class is only for customer teams, in Hypercar class most of the cars are run by private teams with manufacturer's support, similarly to most of WRC2's works teams.