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    What do you think about tomorrow's stages? Especially first one is really early in the morning, last time there was some ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seb_sh View Post
    I'd wait for a more "normal" gravel rally before drawing any conclusion.
    Yes, that's fair.

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    Gregoire will be starting first tomorrow - https://rally-base.com/2024/rallye-m...imeTypeId=1535

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauri_J View Post
    Wrong? You just want those points to disappear from standings? Makes No sense
    No, I just want a normal scoring system. But yes, I'd rather those points to disappear than being retroactively reallocated, especially when you consider that those are supposed to be "Leg 1 / Saturday" points but their allocation depends on the result after "Leg 2 / Sunday"... Ogier finished 2nd in Leg 1, why would he deserve anything more than 15 points from that leg? He didn't win it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    Shame we’re not seeing more of the 4-7 minute mark of this stage, looks really pretty with the mountain beside them. A really beautiful stage imho.
    That's something i miss from the old Eurosport/IRC Monte days.. instead of 'here is car 1-2-3 going through the same section of the stage' they used to jump around a lot more so one would see more of the stage and it was better for the drama too as they would focus on the tighest battles. At least that's how i remember it.

    The current setup has it's advantages too of course; equal coverage for all competitors and you can directely compare cars/drivers over the same stretch of road.

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    Lets face it, we are all rally nerds and love the sport, hence why we follow this forum. Yet we have been debating this new pts scoring system, and the confusion it has brought to some since it was announced. And we have drivers who hate it.

    So how the fuck does some casual rally fan, or a potential new fan, follow and understand?

    The fact it's not straight away easy to understand is an instant red flag, especially when their aim is to attract new fans!

    Rallying is actually huge, look at youtube. Look at turnouts at events at every level of the sport. Maybe the promoters and FIA should focus more on providing the actual rally fans with what we want, and re-engage the fans who have drifted away from the sport. We will never be F1, but rallying is unique and can still be huge

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    The point system would be easily fixed by giving few points for overall standings, even if it was for top3.

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    This looks good for the Hybrid units ;
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/toyota-cr...hybrid-system/

    The rules were changed this year;

    There have also been changes made to the number of hybrid units available in 2024, as teams can no longer use more than three new units as opposed to nine in previous years as another way of reducing costs.

    This is from the 2024 Sporting regs, that other was from Autosport !!

    - Each Manufacturer Team: Maximum 3 new units per season
    are allowed. The total number of hybrids units per season is
    not limited.
    For 2025 and 2026, maximum 3 new hybrid units per season
    are allowed.
    A refurbished hybrid unit is not considered as a new
    hybrid unit when at least one of the following components
    is unchanged: inverter, MGU or battery pack. If these three
    elements are changed simultaneously, the decision will be at
    the discretion of the FIA and the hybrid system supplier.
    Last edited by satnav; 27th January 2024 at 21:08. Reason: More info

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    Suppose Neuville has a puncture or an off tomorrow and loses some minutes... before he'd have lost places and points, but now he'd still keep his 18 pts from Thur-Sat.

    Good or bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeskyOndra View Post
    What do you think about tomorrow's stages? Especially first one is really early in the morning, last time there was some ice.
    I don't know, but looking at the map the first stage is twisty so there will be areas in deep shadow. And it's a clear night on the forecast for Gap. So some sort of ice, or frost, or slippery slush, seems likely for the morning. Well, that's how it's been so far.

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