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    British & Irish Rally calendars 2023

    https://www.britishrallychampionship...ndar-for-2023/


    In comes the Malcolm Wilson, Ypres & Ulster. Out are Clacton, Nicky Grist & the Grampian stages.

    From a spectator view, the Malcolm Wilson can be a pain, especially if Greystoke is non spectator, as the Whinlatter stages are run early to suit the Forestry.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Still can't believe the closest event to London is not even in the UK... surely Clacton or a totally new rally needs to be in there. Seems a shame. Ulster is a cool event though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pettersolberg29 View Post
    Still can't believe the closest event to London is not even in the UK... surely Clacton or a totally new rally needs to be in there. Seems a shame. Ulster is a cool event though.
    Until someone works out a way to make rallying relevant to people living in London, or indeed any other major city, it's not really worth worrying about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouvreur View Post
    Until someone works out a way to make rallying relevant to people living in London, or indeed any other major city, it's not really worth worrying about...
    I'm afraid this is correct. The sport has disappeared and isn't relevant to those who have the money to fund the sport. And it's not a sudden thing; it's been the best part of 20 years of disappearing down a hole.

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    Oooo I’m excited by this! I did suspect the Malcolm Wilson was possibly going to join the BRC as it came up on the 2023 calendar on ewrc-results along with the Jim Clark, Ceredigion, Trackrod, Cambrian. It’s still down as a 1-dayer but it was mentioned that it will be the longest gravel rally of the season. Perhaps the BRC will do second runs through Grizedale? Maybe even Grizedale East we now know it’s back in use as a rally stage?

    I’m still baffled that a rally in Belgium (albeit an extremely good one) is even considered for inclusion in the British Rally Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKSjbg View Post
    I’m still baffled that a rally in Belgium (albeit an extremely good one) is even considered for inclusion in the British Rally Championship.
    It's an incomprehensible admission, or even advertisement, of failure. The UK governing body can't even bring itself to form a UK championship. What are they actually trying to achieve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    It's an incomprehensible admission, or even advertisement, of failure. The UK governing body can't even bring itself to form a UK championship. What are they actually trying to achieve?
    What actual involvement does the MSUK have with the running of the BRC? One imagines it's very little......It's left to individual events....

    With no event in the all important south east region, a savvy governing body would be looking to introduce an event that ticks off all the boxes for all 'stake holders'. But they'll leave it up to others to do this.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    What actual involvement does the MSUK have with the running of the BRC? One imagines it's very little......It's left to individual events....

    With no event in the all important south east region, a savvy governing body would be looking to introduce an event that ticks off all the boxes for all 'stake holders'. But they'll leave it up to others to do this.....
    Thats the joy of contracting out, when things go well you can bask in the glory however when its the opposite direction of travel blame the promoter. The fact that the "promoter" then has to make money to pay salaries (inflated or not) means that the fees charged to the events and the crews goes up. Judging by the way the current BRC operation works they just tend to report social media content by some competitors and certainly havent engaged with traditional media at all so not sure where the money is going..

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    So 2 rounds co-existing with the BTRDA (Wilson/Trackrod) and an Irish tarmac event to try and draw a few more Irish crews back, interesting. Ypres when they announced the WRC wouldnt be going back was a cert as guess they arent interested in being back in the ERC anytime soon. Clacton being dropped is the one I didnt forsee with its catchment area, must have not gone well this year on one side or both for it to drop so soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal yet again View Post
    Clacton being dropped is the one I didnt forsee with its catchment area, must have not gone well this year on one side or both for it to drop so soon.
    It looks like they've made an effort to get away from 40-45 minute rallies and I guess Corbeau doesn't really fit into that. I don't see how it could be opened up to much more stage mileage. Nothing wrong with the rally or it's organisation but I can only ever see it being able to run with a 'clubman' length itinerary.

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