Rally Sweden 2023

[fiscorpun]

yes thats what we are saying... because there are standards in this world... unless you are a drooling autist that belongs in a cage and enjoys seeing a rally1 car going at road speed just because its a rally1 car....

.......STANDARDS....
Maybe WRC needs a new fan base, not new manufacturers.....

[AnttiL]

Still early but could be very difficult rally.

That's for Tuesday 7th Feb? Seems weird to me, other forecasts aren't showing that kind of temps

https://www.foreca.fi/Sweden/Umea/15vrk
https://www.foreca.fi/Sweden/Vannas/15vrk (<-- closer to forest stages)

https://www.yr.no/nb/v%C3%A6rvarsel/...mmun/Ume%C3%A5
https://www.yr.no/nb/v%C3%A6rvarsel/...C3%A4nn%C3%A4s

https://www.accuweather.com/sv/se/um...5816?year=2023
https://www.accuweather.com/sv/se/v%...0783?year=2023

To me it looks like a good alternation of plus degrees and freezing to get a good ice base.

[AnttiL]

.......STANDARDS....
Maybe WRC needs a new fan base, not new manufacturers.....

I can't agree with the language NOT is using but I agree with his point. I don't see anything positive in someone cruising like Serderidis. It doesn't look good for spectators and it doesn't create competition. Even if Bertelli and Serderidis drove the same rally, they couldn't compete with each other because they in different leagues, but still Bertelli couldn't compete with Greensmith, for instance. For me it doesn't bring anything positive apart from financial boost to the teams. But let's agree to have different opinion.

As for Serderidis giving the car to Munster, I think that's a mistake as well, too early for him. But hopefully it doesn't create dents on Munster's career.

[Tauri_J]

That's for Tuesday 7th Feb? Seems weird to me, other forecasts aren't showing that kind of temps


To me it looks like a good alternation of plus degrees and freezing to get a good ice base.

Yeah 7th. Last week was warm around Umea with tenperatures up to +5 so stages should have a pretty good ice base already.

[Rallyper]

We need to start a new thread called smth like "Gentlemen drivers in Rally1?" instead of discussing it in this Rally Sweden thread.

Someone? Moderator?

[AnttiL]

https://youtu.be/0uDkh70LqdA

Video version of the route preview

[Franky]

We need to start a new thread called smth like "Gentlemen drivers in Rally1?" instead of discussing it in this Rally Sweden thread.

Someone? Moderator?

Some here seem to be focusing on the wrong aspect with this issue. Gentlemen drivers should be further down the start list. It should be based on prior results/speed as gentlemen drivers can have very different pace. So in a way it is related to specific rallies.

[Rallyper]

Some here seem to be focusing on the wrong aspect with this issue. Gentlemen drivers should be further down the start list. It should be based on prior results/speed as gentlemen drivers can have very different pace. So in a way it is related to specific rallies.

Alright then...

[lmmjvss]

yes thats what we are saying... because there are standards in this world... unless you are a drooling autist that belongs in a cage and enjoys seeing a rally1 car going at road speed just because its a rally1 car....

Ah... I understand you point, but Fourmaux finished (overall) behind two WRC2 cars last year but I honestly rather have had that Rally1 car on the grid than not. Dont you?
And If we really think about it, more than half of the Rally1 drivers cant get close to the top Rally1 drivers anyway so why bother at all? Lets just have a 5 Rally1 cars championship! haha THE SAME DRIVERS have been the "TOP3 to TOP5" overall for basically 7 years already. Seb, Neuville, Ott... Kalle...

[AnttiL]

Ah... I understand you point, but Fourmaux finished (overall) behind two WRC2 cars last year but I honestly rather have had that Rally1 car on the grid than not. Dont you?
And If we really think about it, more than half of the Rally1 drivers cant get close to the top Rally1 drivers anyway so why bother at all? Lets just have a 5 Rally1 cars championship! haha THE SAME DRIVERS have been the "TOP3 to TOP5" overall for basically 7 years already. Seb, Neuville, Ott... Kalle...

You really can’t tell the difference between Fourmaux and Serderidis?

Last year nine drivers stood on the podium and in addition Greensmith and Solberg had 4th places.

Seven years ago Kalle hadn't even started a WRC event. The top drivers included names like Meeke, Latvala and Mikkelsen who are not driving anymore. Evans and Tänak hadn't yet won a rally.

But it's true that it's difficult to break through to the top level, we've seen many come and try and fail.

But this has nothing to do with gentleman drivers.