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Thread: Future format of WRC events?
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30th May 2022, 00:44 #11
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I think there is some smart ... and some history in this comment
1- Super-specials, gymkhanas, circuit racing were all part of the rallies back in the 60s. Closer to us, the first day of the old RAC was "mickey-mouse" stages - lots of them but they wedre more or less inconsequential on the final result.
2- Which brings me to present : i like the idea of a sunday (which in any means is not a proper "classic" rally day as it is so short ...) devoted to easy-to-market, good-for-your-sponsors stages. Whether this is on a track (Nurburgring a good idea) a rallycross track or proper stages, have the cars come back to parc fermé between each run, with interviews etc ... Build up the finale. But ensure that this is only a small fraction of the overall rally and that the guy who is 3 minutes behind after a full 2 days of "real" SS has no chance of leapfrogging everyone ...
I neverr thought I could say something like that, but in addition to a proper filming, this may be whhat is missing to appeal to the riches (sponsors, manufacturers) and the masses.
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30th May 2022, 08:56 #12
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This is absolutely!! The current format makes sense (I dislike it, and always have) and the reasons are valid. I recall the discussions in the late 90s when the 'cloverleaf' format was introduced; it will bring in more sponsors, cut costs, easier for TV, etc
Here we are in 2022, and I think the sport has gone down a blind alley, and won't turn back. I'd probably keep the current format for now, but maybe experiment with some Saturday evening finishes. However I'd give the 'classic' events far more freedom, including stage km but remembering it's 2022, and not 1992. To me the 'classics' are Monte, Acropolis, Safari & Finland - and if RallyGB ever comes back (not NIreland) then I'd give that classic status.
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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30th May 2022, 13:01 #13
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Current format is ok. But would it be wrong to let the events decide a bit more on what type of rally, serviceplan and length they would like to have in their event?
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30th May 2022, 16:44 #14
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I suspect that if this sort of flexibility was to be allowed - and in the hands of an event organiser - then the cost / fee to be an event would invariably go up, because WRC Promoter / teams / FIA / Suppliers would need a contingency to cover their increased costs if an event decides to do something completely mental....
Which would in turn impact the amount of events that actually COULD propose to run in the WRC..
Funny things is - you don't tend to hear event organisers / promoters complaining about the format. And they are the ones that really take a risk to put the events on. And there seems to be no shortage of new events wanting to be in the WRC. So we have to at least admit that the current format is working in some areas....
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30th May 2022, 16:51 #15
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30th May 2022, 19:28 #16
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30th May 2022, 20:58 #17
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You're right, looking back at my post I mentioned F1 too much. I don't actually just mean everyone has F1 in mind as a real target, I just was thinking of the many proposals to make rally less like rally and more circuit-like, with the (perhaps imaginary) idea that that will bring more money and crowds.
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31st May 2022, 08:07 #18
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That's the thing - if the product improves. Is the product good enough, is it offering value? The evidence would suggest not.......where are the new manufacturers, the major sponsors, etc Too many at the top have their heads in the sand. They keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.....
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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31st May 2022, 08:36 #19
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So, one event decides that they will have all flying service. All teams must buy service vans and mobile service tents and ditch their service park systems. Another event decides that they will have 1000 stage kilometres, so many components will need redesigning to take that much driving without changing/rebuild.
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31st May 2022, 11:21 #20
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I'd like to ask you both what the product is, I'm not sure what you mean. I also believe those at the top are happy with the state of things. 10 Rally1 cars is just about right and they make most of them run, they're not calling for more manufacturers. Happy days!
Anybody know which rally/ies had the longest SS kms, of any championship or none, in the last 5 years? Or just how much demand is there from entrants?
If a breakaway series formed on old-fashioned principles, well, compare the standings of the Golden Era or the McRae years, with the AllLive years. One looks a healthier, more entertaining and competitive championship to me.
It was on qualifying stage, he rolled the car and it was said that he won't be able to start the rally. But team managed to repair the car and he did start and dominated drivers like Rossel, Gryazin...
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