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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonek View Post
    And this is probably main point of current situation. At Toyota nobody liked him so they didn’t push to keep him for 2020. Now nobody likes him at Hyunday. He is just not a team player. He‘s focused on himself.
    ... and Wilson is dreaming to get him back to M-Sport

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    This was exactly what was discussed when Tanak joined Hyundai for the 2020 season. Would Neuville let Tanak pass if Tanak's WDC even remotely depended on it. I guess you could find your answer in Dirtfish interview.
    Such a shame for this 'team' and its leader.

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    Acropolis Rally Greece 2022 (8-11 Sep)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonek View Post
    And this is probably main point of current situation. At Toyota nobody liked him so they didn’t push to keep him for 2020. Now nobody likes him at Hyunday. He is just not a team player. He‘s focused on himself.
    A guy who got a call from Malcolm not to fight with Ogier during Spain in 17

    got a call today from Korea not to push

    Respecting the calls both times

    In 2020 helped Hyundai to manufacture title while Thierry binned it in monza

    And people are calling him a not a team player

    Yeah he can be a arse inside the team as I have heard and nobody likes him. But so far he has respected the big decisions
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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonek View Post
    And this is probably main point of current situation. At Toyota nobody liked him so they didn’t push to keep him for 2020. Now nobody likes him at Hyunday. He is just not a team player. He‘s focused on himself.
    i would not push it so far. i don't think nobody likes him, it seems unfair to me. i think it is just his approach, is not a bad guy.

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    Brynhildsen at 3.place?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    A guy who got a call from Malcolm not to fight with Ogier during Spain in 17

    got a call today from Korea not to push

    Respecting the calls both times

    In 2020 helped Hyundai to manufacture title while Thierry binned it in monza

    And people are calling him a not a team player

    Yeah he can be a arse inside the team as I have heard and nobody likes him. But so far he has respected the big decisions
    Also GB 2017 or 2018 when he let Ogier pass on PS. If im not mistaken

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    Rossel rolled and title hopes definitively over

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    Lappi also left Toyota for no reason? and returned after Tommi/Mia were sent away..

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    A guy who got a call from Malcolm not to fight with Ogier during Spain in 17

    got a call today from Korea not to push

    Respecting the calls both times

    In 2020 helped Hyundai to manufacture title while Thierry binned it in monza

    And people are calling him a not a team player
    honestly yes, i think so, as i said before. i think his approach is more self-oriented (and again, rightly so).
    of course, some cases you present are real (unless for 2020 that is too vague to me), but doesn't really mean that much if you put it in context when happened, like spain 17 or today. it's not like the championship is on the line today, right? we talk a lot about still a long shot...

    e: still, to be clear, is not that much on today, than his generale behaviour, it's a bunch of things that make a team player, not just a tema order sometimes. of course that's from what i know from my limited point of view, i can be wrong for sure.
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    All top drivers are top drivers because they PERSONALLY want to get titles. They didn't do all their career for helping others. Is it Tänak, Neuville, Ogier, Rovanperä, Evans does not really matter.

    Only exception can be clear 3rd car guy like Sordo, who took this role intentionally.

    All the time you just need to keep in mind, for whom you are working for.

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