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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    Dang it, the Breen/Puma combination surely has potential for something more. They need to patch things together through a rally weekend first though. Hope for better results in Ypres and Acropolis.
    The ever thoughtful rallyssimo.it chimes in their take on the actual M-Sport crisis:

    "Let's start from Monte-Carlo and the only victory captured by a Puma Rally 1. This victory, corroborated by Breen's third place, has certainly galvanized fans all over the world but could also have given an idea of the competitiveness of the car that it was correct at the time, but it is no longer correct now.

    It was in fact the first race of the first Rally 1 championship. Ford had started earlier so it was pretty obvious that he could have an advantage, especially over Hyundai (which barely managed to finish the cars in time to send them to Monaco). But then, the two giants involved in the world championship, Toyota and Hyundai, certainly did not stand by and, race after race, they went to improve the performance of their cars. Can the same be said of M-Sport?"


    "Confirming this theory is also the decline in the performance of the other riders in the blue oval who, race after race, find less and less space at the top of the test standings. If that's not enough, the very fact of not having carried out pre-event tests in Finland speaks volumes about the chances that the development of the Puma has gone hand in hand with that of rival cars. ( For example based on Motorsport.com article, ahead of this weekend’s Rally Finland Hyundai conducted three test days at its Finland test base, while Toyota completed four days spread across its four entries near to its Finland-based workshop)

    If we take this theory for granted, then even Breen's errors can be seen in a different light. Mistakes always are, but when you're forced to run 110% to keep up with others, you're much more likely to make a mistake and pay dearly for it."


    https://www.rallyssimo.it/2022/08/06/wrc-crisi-m-sport-e-davvero-tutta-colpa-dei-piloti/
    Last edited by Sergiow; 7th August 2022 at 14:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_tiger View Post
    Ott made reference to his wife during the interview after winning - is the lady sick at the moment ?
    Yes she is

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    That's terrible news! Is that also the reason for skipping Monza last year?
    No was a different reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by seb_sh View Post
    You got the hang of the place already ��
    It's life, same everywhere - online, at the pub, at work. Somebody sparks gossip, facts kill gossip, people do nothing, somebody sparks gossip....

    Quote Originally Posted by logic View Post
    No was a different reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergiow View Post
    The ever thoughtful rallyssimo.it chimes in their take on the actual M-Sport crisis:

    "Let's start from Monte-Carlo and the only victory captured by a Puma Rally 1. This victory, corroborated by Breen's third place, has certainly galvanized fans all over the world but could also have given an idea of the competitiveness of the car that it was correct at the time, but it is no longer correct now.

    It was in fact the first race of the first Rally 1 championship. Ford had started earlier so it was pretty obvious that he could have an advantage, especially over Hyundai (which barely managed to finish the cars in time to send them to Monaco). But then, the two giants involved in the world championship, Toyota and Hyundai, certainly did not stand by and, race after race, they went to improve the performance of their cars. Can the same be said of M-Sport?"


    "Confirming this theory is also the decline in the performance of the other riders in the blue oval who, race after race, find less and less space at the top of the test standings. If that's not enough, the very fact of not having carried out pre-event tests in Finland speaks volumes about the chances that the development of the Puma has gone hand in hand with that of rival cars. ( For example based on Motorsport.com article, ahead of this weekend’s Rally Finland Hyundai conducted three test days at its Finland test base, while Toyota completed four days spread across its four entries near to its Finland-based workshop)

    If we take this theory for granted, then even Breen's errors can be seen in a different light. Mistakes always are, but when you're forced to run 110% to keep up with others, you're much more likely to make a mistake and pay dearly for it."


    https://www.rallyssimo.it/2022/08/06/wrc-crisi-m-sport-e-davvero-tutta-colpa-dei-piloti/
    There are a few flaws in that analysis. A. Nobody has asked Breen to push "110%" until this very weekend B. A nearly middle aged Loeb is running circles around the other Pumas in every appearance and C. Loubet is matching (or surpassing) Greensmith and Fourmaux, despite much less time with the team and the car. Yes, maybe the Puma cannot beat the Rovanpera/Yaris combination (who can?), but the car is surely capable of more than a 7th place.

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    Wait is that improvised picture or real?

    Quality is potato'ish so cant really tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauri_J View Post
    Wait is that improvised picture or real?

    Quality is potato'ish so cant really tell
    real


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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    real

    This also

    Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk

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    "I've won a lot of races in my career but this is definitely one of the best. I'm not even talking about the performance but how I won. I had already won twice here in Finland but it was with Toyota, it's different. When you come here with Toyota, you are expected to win. But when you come here with Hyundai and you manage to beat two Finns on the podium, it's magic" confided the placid Ott Tänak to Olivier Gaspard (see https://www.rtbf.be/article/ott-tana...aient-11044181

    Struggling with his car in Estonia, Tänak had obviously eaten lion three weeks later. How to explain such a change in behavior in his car... when the two rallies are similar, at least according to Thierry Neuville: "These are two different rallies" corrects Tänak straight away. "Estonia is an 'easy' rally, in Finland it's more technical. I still can't say we were happy with the performance of the car here, but we were able to be fast, especially in the at the beginning, when the guys from Toyota were still sleeping a bit. That's when they gave us the advantage and we were able to keep it."

    A victory which is therefore likely to put balm in the heart of a Hyundai team weaned from positive thrills for a few months: “If we continue to work well, everything is possible. But we have to work. In Ypres, we will do our best. Last year, it was a little more difficult, we didn't know the stages. Now, we know them, it will be more interesting. I like the Ypres rally, it's a great meeting..."
    Last edited by Sergiow; 7th August 2022 at 16:18.

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