Rally Croatia 2022

**dupanton** · 26th April 2022, 10:49

I have no problem with time penalties for speeding on the road sections. But I do have a problem with the random way it happens now. It depends on the stewards what penalty you get (cfr Croatia last year, Estonna last year, Croatia this year).

They should make clear rules. Fine for small offences, time penalty for big offences (like 5" per kph over the limit for exemple) and than DQ for really big offences.

Than it's clear for everyone, no discussions, and drivers will think twice before speeding.

But as a codriver I just want to add, when you are in the car and getting late, you do everything you can to check in on time. It's just the way a (competitive) human works

**wyler** · 26th April 2022, 13:33

Originally Posted by seb_sh

No worries. Not trying to pretend anything, but as Sal said the drivers are supposedly ambassadors for road safety and also times change and what is acceptable changes. Roads and traffic are not the same as they were in the 90s. Also the famous Elena ride was stopped by police and almost not allowed to continue if I remember correctly, they were only allowed to go with an escort so even in Mexico 15 years ago some things were not acceptable.

But my main point is that in my opinion the sport can't afford a rta with injuries or major damage. The cars have trackers, even in dakar they penalize speeding in the villages...

yes, generally i think the same as dupanton. the thing i didn't stand is that kind of one-off to make a statement and then ignore everything for the next year, i find it really absurd.

for me there's 2 way:
a: fia review all the tracking data at every service, check and penalize for any breach, not only speeding: red light, overtaking, and so on. (i guess anyone who followed a race live has an anecdote or two about rally cars on road mode, from wrc1 to the least regional competitor)

b: drivers are on their own responsibility as any other user of a public road. law enforcers will check for breaches and issue law-related fines or suspenzions.

**AndyRAC** · 26th April 2022, 13:57

Originally Posted by Sal yet again

Footage I saw of Neuville looked like a last minute undertake and dive for the slip road which would have been at least six points on my licence in the UK!

There are many eyes watching all aspects of motorised sport hoping for an opportunity to highlight its shortcomings and I can guarantee in my own country that the media would rather pick on this type of incident rather than cover the actual rally in their sports sections.

One can imagine the headlines; especially from the well known rags. The sport wouldn't have a leg to stand on; and the MSUK would be in full damage limitation.

**TypeR** · 26th April 2022, 15:03

If it had been 80 vs 100kmh, then nobody would really care.. but double above the speed limit is something else.. and as mentioned before, not the first time.

**ouvreur** · 26th April 2022, 15:38

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

One can imagine the headlines; especially from the well known rags.

Indeed - on the front page they would be about a celebrity doing something amusing or Boris Johnson lying again, and on the back they would be about football, or rugby, or cricket, or tennis. Not one mainstream publication gives even half a sh!t about rallying, unless someone has been killed that is...

**EstWRC** · 26th April 2022, 16:31

Bunnings vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXb0z2XWuI

**seb_sh** · 27th April 2022, 10:45

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/teams...ure-situation/

apparently a lot of the punctures happened together with cracked rims. I suppose the tires can't be blamed for punctures if the hit is so hard that the rim breaks.

**bluuford** · 27th April 2022, 10:48

Originally Posted by seb_sh

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/teams...ure-situation/

apparently a lot of the punctures happened together with cracked rims. I suppose the tires can't be blamed for punctures if the hit is so hard that the rim breaks.

You know, when there is no more rubber and you drive until the end of stage with rim or pieces of rubber still left, rim tends to break as well

**AnttiL** · 27th April 2022, 11:31

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...enalty-appeal/

Hyundai will not appeal to Neuville's speeding penalty

**Danny0405** · 27th April 2022, 12:14

It has not been noticed I think (or I miss it) but it is podium number 52 of Neuville in WRC: he ties with Solberg in 10th position all-time.
The other drivers he could catch this season:
- Auriol (9th with 53)
- Alen (8th with 56)
Complicated to catch Gronholm this season (7th with 61)

The next active driver (not being Ogier or Loeb) is Sordo with 51
Tanak a little far with 35