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    [WRC] Safari Rally 2022

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/longe...-safari-rally/

    a 363 km route is planned with two new stages (two of the most technical stages dropped). Most of the extra kilometres come from the 96 km Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/longe...-safari-rally/

    a 363 km route is planned with two new stages (two of the most technical stages dropped). Most of the extra kilometres come from the 96 km Sunday.
    I wish they would have made 3*100km stages, or at least 5*60 to recapture some of the safari spirit. The wRC needs diversity, not only of the background picture ! some short sprints, some endurance events, some classics ... This cloverleaf, all-the-same format is killing the sport. You could be anywhere it is just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djip View Post
    I wish they would have made 3*100km stages, or at least 5*60 to recapture some of the safari spirit. The wRC needs diversity, not only of the background picture ! some short sprints, some endurance events, some classics ... This cloverleaf, all-the-same format is killing the sport. You could be anywhere it is just the same.
    You mean the rally would consist of 3 or 5 stages only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/longe...-safari-rally/

    a 363 km route is planned with two new stages (two of the most technical stages dropped). Most of the extra kilometres come from the 96 km Sunday.
    Good on them for attempting to push through the ridiculous 350km limit, whether the FIA/Promoter play ball could be a sign of future intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    Good on them for attempting to push through the ridiculous 350km limit, whether the FIA/Promoter play ball could be a sign of future intent.
    IIRC Mouton or Todt even asked for a longer itinerary from them a couple of years ago? However, this is still within the normal WRC format. Any other WRC event could do the same, and has been done during 2015-2018 (earlier years had more freedom with the itineraries).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    IIRC Mouton or Todt even asked for a longer itinerary from them a couple of years ago? However, this is still within the normal WRC format. Any other WRC event could do the same, and has been done during 2015-2018 (earlier years had more freedom with the itineraries).
    But in real terms, all the other rallies have just got shorter, with 363km being relatively longer, but just around the average length of a rally in the period when Mouton or Todt asked for the Safrai to go longer still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by djip View Post
    This cloverleaf, all-the-same format is killing the sport.
    People were saying this twenty years ago yet it's still here and a world-class 'classic' series still hasn't appeared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    But in real terms, all the other rallies have just got shorter, with 363km being relatively longer, but just around the average length of a rally in the period when Mouton or Todt asked for the Safrai to go longer still...
    Average length has been close to 300km for 10 years. Rallies over 350km have been rare exceptions.

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    I think you'll find the event organisers are not that keen to push the limit of stage mileage.

    Where do you think these limits come from?

    Every mile costs money to run. Lots of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Average length has been close to 300km for 10 years. Rallies over 350km have been rare exceptions.
    To be fair, you're not not wrong on the former point, but up until 2017, it wasn't unusual to have at least five rallies over 350km per season. '17 & '18 we had three, then things started going really downhill from '19 onwards, largely due to Covid lately, admittedly. 363km in 2016 was not particularly special though.
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