WRC main class in 2025

[WRCStan]

I'll add one thing, this thread was started in 2022 and had a lot of discussion, meanwhile the FIA has been sleeping and now they are between a rock and hard place. They screwed up and yet again they have to find a short term solution. This is why the ACO, SRO, F1 whatever you want is doing well right now, they planned for the long term, while the WRC is having to do knee jerk reactions.

These organisations are apolitical and revolve around motorsport though, FIA isn't.

[WRCStan]

They screwed up and yet again they have to find a short term solution.

Well, not really unless they know of a departure. They can start the next X seasons as they did this.

[seb_sh]

These organisations are apolitical and revolve around motorsport though, FIA isn't.

I'm a bit bored of these excuses, there were still people overseeing WRC and doing nothing for years, probably getting payed for this, sorry but they suck. The ACO got a move on and built something in the meantime, the FIA is just useless.

[er88]

Watched Solans testing vid for Sweden. That yaris sounds utterly pathetic, unwell even. Lets not sugar coat things.
Ive paid lots of money travelling abroad to attend wrc events, but christ I will not bother if rally2 is the future. I know not all cars sound as flat as the yaris rally2, but why would those cars attract new fans that is apparently the aim? I remember taking my missus to the Grampian rally in Aberdeen Scotland, and she asked if the R5 cars are meant to sound like that......
She liked the slower mk2 escorts though

[Franky]

Watched Solans testing vid for Sweden. That yaris sounds utterly pathetic, unwell even. Lets not sugar coat things.
Ive paid lots of money travelling abroad to attend wrc events, but christ I will not bother if rally2 is the future. I know not all cars sound as flat as the yaris rally2, but why would those cars attract new fans that is apparently the aim? I remember taking my missus to the Grampian rally in Aberdeen Scotland, and she asked if the R5 cars are meant to sound like that......
She liked the slower mk2 escorts though

I wouldn't say the Yaris Rally2 sounded bad in Monte. Not the most exciting sound but at least it is noisy.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Watched Solans testing vid for Sweden. That yaris sounds utterly pathetic, unwell even. Lets not sugar coat things.
Ive paid lots of money travelling abroad to attend wrc events, but christ I will not bother if rally2 is the future. I know not all cars sound as flat as the yaris rally2, but why would those cars attract new fans that is apparently the aim? I remember taking my missus to the Grampian rally in Aberdeen Scotland, and she asked if the R5 cars are meant to sound like that......
She liked the slower mk2 escorts though

Agreed on that Yaris... sounds like a wet fart !

But the current Rally2 spec wont be the future, it would be Rally2+, and I'm sure the cars would look and sound much better.

[COD]

you should read the thread

It is 70+ pages long. Sorry that I did not have time…. No disrespect to anyone, just my two cents

[lmmjvss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDknN4X1zCQ

Heres what WRC will look like if we dont complain on the internet

[typhoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDknN4X1zCQ

Heres what WRC will look like if we dont complain on the internet

lol, hopefully we continue complaining then

[WRCStan]

I'm a bit bored of these excuses, there were still people overseeing WRC and doing nothing for years, probably getting payed for this, sorry but they suck. The ACO got a move on and built something in the meantime, the FIA is just useless.

What excuses? Sorry if you find this boring but here's my reasoning, and it's what you're stuck with:

FIA is an international organisation set up to run like a nation state with separate presidency, senate, councils, assemblies, committees etc, and has more than motorsport as its mandate. It has politicians trying to sway things in their country's/pocket's/lobbyist's/banker's favour because of strong influence over the members' national traffic laws, automotive industry and trade flows etc; and it's also in charge of one of few sports with truly-global annual championships and audience reach through F1. Just like nation states, there are smarmy shits trying to bring others down and dodgy deals to enforce and consolidate power and position, and there's a bleed into other political and international organisations. Evidently, many people really don't care for rallying or WRC, and if all these folk were working together, perhaps we wouldn't be having these conversations. The working group are showing they care in a popular way, but the existence of it, the survey and Dirtfish massages from the president rubbing up fans' support are all part of this power struggle game. Even the relationship of the players in that group...

You say the rally dept, the folk who actually care about WRC, are sat with their thumbs up the arses but probably half the decisions they want to take, they don't have the authority, whilst half the things they have to do, they probably wouldn't choose to - I would use hybrid as example. Then, consider the bollockology of the FIA being the WRC governing body and having to license out the commercial rights under EU order, and how that interferes with decision making and implementation when anything commercial has to go back through the senate, at least on paper.

SRO is a private company run by people with shared goals and incentives. Of course they get things done. Conversations about fresh tyres, social media presence and all that make a lot more sense in their offices.