WRC main class in 2025

**becher** · 14th May 2023, 10:20

Originally Posted by denkimi

wrc just needs to walk away from the idea that only big car manufacturers are allowed to build a car.
they need to go to a f1 formula where private teams can also build a car and compete.

This! With Rally1 it's the perfect ruleset, but it needs to be commercially viable, which it isn't at the moment. F1 has the FOM price money from TV rights, the WRC promotor doesn't have any money to spend.

**skarderud** · 14th May 2023, 10:38

Yes, the manu-rule is obviously out of date, they are not interested.
Its quite easy with the Rally1-5 rules to let private teams build cars in those regulation.

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**Sulland** · 14th May 2023, 12:50

Proposal: All WRC1 teams need to use their "last year models" and form a minimum 2 car team. Can be operated by the manufacturer or a satelite team.
Drivers buy the seats for a season or a single rally if available.

More drivers get experience in WRC1 cars, and we get a better show with drivers trying to beat the manu teams.

**typhoon** · 14th May 2023, 16:59

I'm aware I'm ready to get my s**tstorm here in the forum, but since I have been working in the WRC until few years ago, I think it's finally time to do something very different that might help gather more casual fans around and get more attention.

It's also time to get an opinion also from the main actors of the championship, since nobody seems to listen to them both on the Promoter and the FIA.
I read carefully this interview ( https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...ange/10467810/ ) and is quite alarming in my opinion. I believe Neuville is quite right here.

The "motorsport market" on TV and on the social media is very dynamic and aggressive, while it looks like the WRC is taying quite behind other big series. So, my proposals on the rally format would be the following:

THURSDAY
The Shakedown needs to be converted back into a Qualifying Stage, which must be televised with the format of a "world feed" (Shakedowns on YouTube are quite "depressing" and "static" honestly) and create hype and "tension" for those watching.
Format: 3 mandatory runs for each Manufacturer-entered car, with the sum of the two best time decides the road order for Friday.

SUPERSPECIAL
Thursday's SSS, as said, must be televised from an iconic venue and the road order will be decided by an online fan vote.

FRIDAY
Using the qualifying stage, the road order will go accordingly and the Day 1 must end with a Superspecial, which will award extra 3-2-1 points to the top-3 stage times.

SATURDAY
The road order will be created by reverting the top-15 standings (15th after Day 1 will start first and so on).
A Special Stage on Saturday afternoon will be broadcasted for 90 minutes and will feature an arena through the stage (like Loelle in Sardinia) with 1 extra point for the fastest time and 1 extra point for the biggest jump.

SUNDAY
It remains as it is, with rally-ending Wolf Power Stage to award extra points and feature the podium-finish ceremony as well.

That's for what I think the format could be in the future.

The WRC Promoter can also create new lines of revenue, in order to fund and help the teams run the championship.
- WRC Originals - Selling car parts (rear-view mirrors, wings, front bumpers, etc.) to fans worldwide.
- WRC Merchandise and Teams Merchandise - This totally disappeared, the website has been shut down as well.
- WRC Hospitality solutions - The local promoters try to do their packages, but it would be awesome to have a branded solution that will give the same experiences in all rallies.
- WRC event contests - to be held both online (call to actions, engaging challenges, etc.) and offline (arrange pit stop challenge at the service park, etc.). This will help WRC Promoter to gather important big data and stratify the targets to hunt to improve the brand and so wisely invest the budget that needs to be dedicated for promotion.

There's basically a lot that can be done by the WRC Promoter, without big expenses, that can help the series to be revived and gather more interest around. As for the technical part, I read many good proposals here that can help lower the costs and give the chance to have more top-cars in the entry list and private teams as well!

**Kenneth** · 14th May 2023, 17:29

Originally Posted by denkimi

wrc just needs to walk away from the idea that only big car manufacturers are allowed to build a car.
they need to go to a f1 formula where private teams can also build a car and compete.

Exactly. It works for Dakar, it works for Le Mans, it would work for WRC. I bet that teams like Prodrive, Oreca or GCK would jump in.

Also WRC need to get rid of these stupid overpriced Global Race Engine formula. It's one of the most expensive parts of the cars. Just let manufacturers build engines based on road cars.

RS · 14th May 2023, 21:02

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Exactly. It works for Dakar, it works for Le Mans, it would work for WRC. I bet that teams like Prodrive, Oreca or GCK would jump in.

Who’s going to pay for that though? Even M-Sport still have some help from Ford.

**Kenneth** · 14th May 2023, 21:49

Originally Posted by RS

Who’s going to pay for that though? Even M-Sport still have some help from Ford.

Idk. But they can pay it in Dakar and Le Mans. So there is a way.

**EstWRC** · 17th May 2023, 09:07

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...nds-/10470368/

**Norm75** · 17th May 2023, 13:02

It’s a difficult one. Following the conversation in news and rumours thread, but thought I’d post here as it was kind of getting off topic of news and rumours and the problem of declining interest in wrc is probably more suited here.
The problem for me, and I’ve been a car nut since forever, is cars are just becoming boring. There are not so much family hatchbacks or saloon cars that rally cars used to be based on. They are all becoming jacked up wannabe SUV’s that are design for mums to ferry their kids to school in, all look the same and are just intrinsically dull.
Add to that the shift to electric. I don’t want to watch white goods hurtling through forests, I can go down the lane near I live and watch the local pikeys chucking washing machines in a hedge if that is what interests me. I think most rally fans like the mechanics of internal combustion engines. It’s exciting. It’s evocative. Nothing beats the sound of a bda escort, the howl of a 5 cylinder Quattro, the beat of a Subaru boxer, the wail of a 6r4 or a stratos v6. The sound of a powerful vacuum cleaner hurtling towards me doesn’t excite me. The powers that be have a difficult job on their hands.

**Jarek Z** · 17th May 2023, 13:25

Originally Posted by Norm75

The problem for me, and I’ve been a car nut since forever, is cars are just becoming boring. There are not so much family hatchbacks or saloon cars that rally cars used to be based on. They are all becoming jacked up wannabe SUV’s that are design for mums to ferry their kids to school in, all look the same and are just intrinsically dull.

I agree. It's like in this famous picture:
https://twitter.com/GuyDealership/st...16autosize%3D1