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    WRC main class in 2025

    Nonsense indeed when you even yourself admit they cite other publications…

    I wish them well but at the moment I don’t see them adding any value writing the same articles but this is my problem

    Anyway. Off topic

    About Cyril’s whining, there is always one in every series. Toto Wolff being the one in formula 1, especially couple of years ago when he wanted a changes when the cars were proposing a lot, especially his team cars.

    Cyril been the most vocal about it but don’t forget that all 3 teams wrote to FIA not to change the regulations for next year.

    I don’t mind his whining and I actually agree with him. New regulations for 2025 adoesn’t make sense and too little time to prepare
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    I don't even know why they hire him. He is not from this sport universe. I'm sure there is plenty more people out there capable of running such big team.

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    Like I said before... Now I have a feeling he is more and more keen to actualy lead the team out of this sport anyway. We all know where his true passion lays. I just hope that they stay here as long as new teams do actualy enter. So the sport will not be harmed more than it is right now. Then we don't care about them, if they are gone.

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    He is manager of team, not an owner. FIA wants changes that are too rushed for team like Hyundai who was preparing for different timelines. I would say he is doing good job so far and you're way too dramatic about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    jezz, cyril has gone full f1 mode with all that crying. hes worst than us here, honestly lol.
    f* hyundai, i cant even cheer for tierry to lose that virginity (title) anymore because of this guy.
    Never seen it, is this what would make an episode of a WRC Drive to Survive?
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    I had this reply from Rally Journal re sources and credits:

    Thank you for your feedback.

    We always cite the original source if the article is borrowed from another media.

    If you are referring to the article published this morning about Cyril Abiteboul's comments, then we have acted correctly. Our reporter was present at the same interview that Autosport and Motorsport.com had previously written their articles on. This time it happened that Autosport and Motorsport.com had published Tom Howard's article earlier.

    Sometimes, it has occurred that we have published an article first from a similar interview, and later Autosport/Motorsport.com or DirtFish have published their own pieces. This is quite normal practice.

    I must also mention that we are very good acquaintances with Tom Howard from Autosport/Motorsport.com, as we, like him, attend all the rounds of the World Rally Championship. Just recently in Portugal, he came up to me and thanked us for correctly citing the original source when it was his own piece.

    I know that many smaller sites fail to mention their sources. We do not operate like that. However, it's good to receive feedback on this matter, so we can clarify things as well.

    Best regards,

    Toni Heinonen / RallyJournal.com / Rallit.fi

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Never seen it, is this what would make an episode of a WRC Drive to Survive?
    haha probably, i dont watch that either. but it sure looks like its 50% about getting the team principals to complain about everything haha
    f1 have boys, wrc have men. cyril is a boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    haha probably, i dont watch that either. but it sure looks like its 50% about getting the team principals to complain about everything haha
    f1 have boys, wrc have men. cyril is a boy.
    Really?? I'm no fan of F1, but too many here have a giant chip on their shoulder about F1......Compared to the WRC, it's actually a well run series....unlike the WRC which is extremely amateur a lot of the time.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    Really?? I'm no fan of F1, but too many here have a giant chip on their shoulder about F1......Compared to the WRC, it's actually a well run series....unlike the WRC which is extremely amateur a lot of the time.
    oh, i was talking about the netflix series. i might have seen some 'clips' on reddit eventually, but nothing more.
    regarding the actual racing, i do watch some f1 rounds. imola i watched the first 4 laps, then i went do some stuff then i came back with 10 laps to go and fortunatelly thats just where things got interesting. happy to see mclaren improving.

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    Abiteboul says new Regs aren't what is needed but reforms of the WRC media, rally formats and service parks...

    https://rallyjournal.com/hyundai-wrc...-closed-doors/

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