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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Others no doubt know more than me, but as I understood it, the project was not a BMW (Mini) project or idea. Prodrive were allowed to use the brand and received some technical help, but there was no financial involvement at all from the factory and the whole thing relied on Prodrive obtaining a commercial sponsor to fund it into 2012 onwards. Prodrive backed it for 2011 to prove the cars worth for attracting a sponsor, but it didn’t happen and the project fell apart.
    It was a shame as the chassis was reportedly very good, although the engine was certainly not as good as the others.
    Main problem was that Prodrive was always hoping they will dig more money from BMW...

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    Rally needs cheap and powerful cars. But FIA wants to take money from manufacturers, and these want to make money selling racecars, rather than allow independent builders.

    The FIA R4 Kit by Oreca was a great idea, but the FIA didn't push for it as they should.

    The FIA is now working on a Rally5 Kit, but I honestly don't think they will really push it either.
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    Rally5 Kit aims to be regional cup class. It doesn't really "parasite" on manufacturers as there is close to zero interest both from drivers, who rather choose Rally4, so I guess there is no reason to lobby against that. I haven't seen many Rally5s "in wild", most of them were in Toksport Clio Cup.

    But don't forget that Rally5 Kits have to be homologated through ASNs, so there is still control over who can build a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    Rally5 Kit aims to be regional cup class. It doesn't really "parasite" on manufacturers as there is close to zero interest both from drivers, who rather choose Rally4, so I guess there is no reason to lobby against that. I haven't seen many Rally5s "in wild", most of them were in Toksport Clio Cup.

    But don't forget that Rally5 Kits have to be homologated through ASNs, so there is still control over who can build a car.
    If ewrc is correct, renault has sold over 800 clio rally4 rally5's. is suspect most of those are rally5, so that's not something you can call zero interest. They are wildly popular.

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    What? Rally2 for 2025 cuz that will make Lancia join?
    Doubt.... and Rally2 PLUS will be expensive haha Just run the damn R5s, for f sake haha
    "AHH BUT KALLE AND TIERRY DONT WANT TO RUN RALLY 2 CARS"
    Well F* Kalle and Tierry then, jeeezzzz....

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    If I remember correct, Kalle basically said that ,,rally2 on steroids'' would be ok IF really needed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post


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    While this might become reality at some point I seriously doubt it will be already 2025...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    While this might become reality at some point I seriously doubt it will be already 2025...
    2026 at earliest.
    If its a change before that, it is plain Rally2.

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    Rally2+ concept by Keane Design


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